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PapaDragon wrote:^^^ Stealth has been obsolete since 1999.
Only reason that phrase is still thrown around is because Lockheed Martin has pumped too much cash into PR to just drop it after everything...
GarryB wrote:
The MiG-35 was within budget and likely did everything the Indians required officially, but its main fault was that it was Russian, and India has a policy of not buying all its aircraft from one source... of course this time their policy bit them in the ass...
jhelb wrote:GarryB wrote:
The MiG-35 was within budget and likely did everything the Indians required officially, but its main fault was that it was Russian, and India has a policy of not buying all its aircraft from one source... of course this time their policy bit them in the ass...
Well said Garry, I couldn't have put this any better. Russia needs to find more markets for its hardware in Europe and Latin America and consequently reduce its exposure to third world corrupt countries like India.
Fortunately, Putin has realized this mistake and is taking remedial action by selling Su 35 to Pakistan and possibly Iskander to Saudi Arabia.
That Suit is belonging to sort of first generation of sensors for situational/threat awareness or 101KS-U but i was read on some other source that those how you called suit of sensors have some very peculiar solutions like those pasiv optoelectronic in the tail boom, namely he working/catching UV light radiation spectrum which is for present standards of 5Gen aircraft far from enough, ,my point is that PAKFA must get DAS and AESA which will work and give equal quality information like those one Northropgrumman AN/AAQ-37 http://www.northropgrumman.com/Capabilities/ANAAQ37F35/PublishingImages/pageImages/hero_AN-10133.jpg : on this video can be seen how he work on f35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF29GBSpRF4, And i think that KRET already work on different(second generation) of electronic/avionics/sensor fusion suit than that was 101KS-U spectrum of several opto-electronic gadget's.But We will see on second two PAKFA which according by MoD need to be assembled until end of this year.2SPOOKY4U wrote:Some very interesting photos.
Notice on the back of this PAK-FA, there is the little pyramid housing two identical but opposite facing EO systems.
And here is a new photo, with the same system being mounted on the underside of the front fuselage.
Very interesting, I am curious to see the final EO suite for the PAK-FA.
Berkut wrote:Don't need to ask him, they are different frames of course.
jhelb wrote:Berkut wrote:Don't need to ask him, they are different frames of course.
Berkut,
Can the Mig 29 to upgraded to a Mig 35? Back in Belarus we have around 2 squadrons of Mig 29. Is it possible to upgrade these Mig 29 to Mig 35?
Himalayas EW suite developed by Radioelectronic Technologies Concern (KRET, part of Rostec Corporation) not only increases the survivability of the Russian fifth-generation fighter T-50 (PAK FA), but also neutralizes stealth technologies used by enemy aircraft, RIA Novosti reports with reference to KRET.
http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2015/7/15/3331/
Cyberspec wrote:Himalayas EW suite developed by Radioelectronic Technologies Concern (KRET, part of Rostec Corporation) not only increases the survivability of the Russian fifth-generation fighter T-50 (PAK FA), but also neutralizes stealth technologies used by enemy aircraft, RIA Novosti reports with reference to KRET.
http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2015/7/15/3331/
magnumcromagnon wrote:Cyberspec wrote:Himalayas EW suite developed by Radioelectronic Technologies Concern (KRET, part of Rostec Corporation) not only increases the survivability of the Russian fifth-generation fighter T-50 (PAK FA), but also neutralizes stealth technologies used by enemy aircraft, RIA Novosti reports with reference to KRET.
http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2015/7/15/3331/
That's interesting, I wonder how they managed that? My guess would be that they can track a small RCS fighter with the L-Band and X-Band AESA elements in the 'Smart Skin' suite, then the Himalaya's ECM suite fires a strong electromagnetic pulse in the general direction, that's powerful enough to make a F-22A Raptor's APG-77 AESA radar perform erratically, unpredictably, and emit radar emissions uncontrollably...thus negating the stealth advantage when the radar is experiencing explosive diarrhea!
What's even crazier is that by 2020, we may see a brand new photonic based ECM suite for the PAK-FA that's orders of magnitude more powerful then the Himalaya's ECM suite!
Berkut wrote:... the picture above is stolen from this one;
OminousSpudd wrote:How many aircraft are now in testing? Last I heard there were to be 12 pre-series production aircraft by the end of 2015... Any news regarding how many of these have been completed?
But anyway, there were 5 flying prototypes made and the latest of those, T-50-5 had a fire last summer but will fly again any day now. It will be then called T-50-5R and it cannibalized T-50-6 which is now cancelled. Next flying prototype is T-50-6-2 and current plans put the first flight in September. Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:Berkut wrote:... the picture above is stolen from this one;
I got that picture from Karpenko's site.
You mean Burtsev works for Sukhoi?
magnumcromagnon wrote:
That's interesting, I wonder how they managed that? My guess would be that they can track a small RCS fighter with the L-Band and X-Band AESA elements in the 'Smart Skin' suite, then the Himalaya's ECM suite fires a strong electromagnetic pulse in the general direction, that's powerful enough to make a F-22A Raptor's APG-77 AESA radar perform erratically, unpredictably, and emit radar emissions uncontrollably...thus negating the stealth advantage when the radar is experiencing explosive diarrhea!
What's even crazier is that by 2020, we may see a brand new photonic based ECM suite for the PAK-FA that's orders of magnitude more powerful then the Himalaya's ECM suite!
2SPOOKY4U wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:
That's interesting, I wonder how they managed that? My guess would be that they can track a small RCS fighter with the L-Band and X-Band AESA elements in the 'Smart Skin' suite, then the Himalaya's ECM suite fires a strong electromagnetic pulse in the general direction, that's powerful enough to make a F-22A Raptor's APG-77 AESA radar perform erratically, unpredictably, and emit radar emissions uncontrollably...thus negating the stealth advantage when the radar is experiencing explosive diarrhea!
What's even crazier is that by 2020, we may see a brand new photonic based ECM suite for the PAK-FA that's orders of magnitude more powerful then the Himalaya's ECM suite!
Lol, all of you do realize that the EW, ECM, and Radar is all going to be integrated?
Thats what they mean that the EW suite will detect and "negate" the stealth advantage of other aircraft, by detecting.
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