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    The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  Kyo on Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:13 pm

    Social media deception: Venezuela exposes “La Salida” conspiracy

    From February to June 2014, Venezuela experienced a period of violence and terrorism by individuals whose stated goal was to force “La Salida,” (the Exit) of the elected government.

    One year later, the Venezuelan government has documented the involvement of foreign powers in a campaign of media disinformation that accompanied the unrest on the streets.

    On February 12, 2015, the Venezuelan Consulate in New York City commemorated the 43 people (33 civilians plus 10 police and military personnel) who perished during the events that took place last year. The presentation documented that the episode of violence and unrest was not a spontaneous, grassroots uprising. Instead it was the result of collaboration between nonprofit agencies in the United States and an extremely isolated fringe section of the Venezuelan right wing. The goal of this collaboration was to destabilize and overthrow the elected government.

    Twenty-nine of the people who died during "La Salida" perished as a result of gunshot wounds, seven from traps set on roads. The violence that ultimately took 43 lives, included motorcyclists being virtually beheaded when they ran into steel wires placed across intersections by opposition groups. Bombings targeted hospitals, universities and buses. Explosions took place dangerously close to children’s daycare centers. Many people were in fear of their lives.

    Presenting before the audience gathered at the Venezuelan Consulate, Dr. George Ciccariello-Maher of Drexel University said, “These are events that, even as they were occurring, were misrepresented.” He described the episode of violence as a staged plot to bring the Venezuelan government down – a plot that involved media manipulation and a large amount of foreign backing.

    The roots of the Bolivarian Republic

    The movement that eventually created the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela can trace its roots to an upsurge in 1989 known as the “Caracazo.” This was an explosion of anger against neoliberal privatizations and the rising cost of public transportation. A rising amount of protests, strikes, and anti-Western sentiment eventually resulted in the 1999 election of Hugo Chavez as president and the 2002 beating back of a coup attempt against him.

    Chavez, who took office on a platform of opposing neoliberalism and economic domination by the United States, launched a series of economic reforms. After ratifying a new constitution, the country declared itself to be a “Bolivarian Republic” in honor of patriotic Latin American anti-colonial leader Simon Bolivar. The new government opened facilities, staffed with Cuban doctors, which provided free healthcare to low-income Venezuelans. This implementation of accessible medicine was followed by massive literacy programs.

    Starting with the most impoverished, the Venezuelan government has used the proceeds from the state-owned oil company for the benefit of the population. New universities have been established. Labor unions and community organizations have been empowered. Telecommunications, cement, and steel have been nationalized. Food prices have been regulated to ensure the population has adequate nutrition. Land has been redistributed in the countryside, and hundreds of thousands of homes for low-income families have been constructed in a “Grand Housing Mission.”

    The result of these reforms has been good for the majority of the population. Poverty has dropped by 40 percent. Infant mortality has decreased by 10 percent.

    Before his death, Hugo Chavez declared his aim was the creation of “21st Century Socialism” in Venezuela -- the ultimate goal of what he called the “Bolivarian Process.” In elections, the Venezuelan public has voted for Chavez, as well as his successor Nicolas Maduro, in solid majorities. Election monitors from the United Nations, the Carter Center, and the Organization of American States have all confirmed that the massive popular votes in favor of the Bolivarian Process are legitimate.

    However, there has been a minority of right-wing Venezuelans who refuse to recognize the legitimacy of Maduro’s presidency, and are doing all they can to destabilize the government. In his presentation, Ciccariello-Maher described them as “delusionally paranoid” in thinking that “the Carter Center and everyone else” were all part of a “conspiracy” when confirming the accuracy of the election results.

    Articles and reports in international media continue to portray the Venezuelan elections as fraudulent, despite the words of the United Nations, the Carter Center, and the Organization of American States.

    When Maduro was elected in the aftermath of Chavez’s death, the right-wing opposition had been once again defeated at the polls. Mainstream opposition leaders like Henrique Capriles called for the Venezuelan right wing to re-examine its strategies – to perhaps adopt support for certain economic aspects of the Bolivarian process. The hard-line section of the Venezuelan opposition, based primarily on the college campuses and in wealthy neighborhoods, had different ideas.

    “Youth Day”

    On February 12, 2014, the opposition started a campaign of violence on “Youth Day” – a traditional commemoration of an 1814 battle during Venezuela’s war of independence. Ciccariello-Maher stated that the timing of the campaign was very intentional. “The goal was to seamlessly insert themselves into this historical trajectory, this moment of upsurge and resistance against authoritarianism, for democracy, for equality. To do so, they had to misrepresent what they were doing on the ground.” The protesters attempted to present themselves as a Venezuelan version of the Occupy Wall Street movement or Spain’s Los Indignados.

    The campaign had little support domestically -- but winning domestic support was not the goal of this campaign. Ciccariello-Maher, who directly observed the actions of theatrical violence and chaos in Venezuela’s streets, said: “It was made for Twitter. It was made for Facebook. It was made for the English-speaking international media.”

    The Albert Einstein Institute, along with many “human rights”-oriented nonprofit agencies and non-governmental organizations based in the United States, poured money into and gave wide publicity to the protests. Claims that “people were being shot dead on the streets left and right” circulated the internet, along with inflammatory claims that a “tropical pogrom” was taking place.

    This video of police shooting rubber bullets was linked from the blog "Caracas Chronicles" from the phrase "We have videos of soldiers shooting civilians on the street." The post spoke of a "Tropical Pogrom.")

    The hope was that the media blitz could be used to justify foreign intervention. Ciccariello-Maher points out: “The hashtags were very revealing… SOS Venezuela. Who is the audience of such a hashtag? It’s some foreign savior somewhere else.”

    Videos were published purporting to show the Venezuelan police firing live ammunition into crowds. In reality, the police were only firing rubber bullets in the hope of pushing back an increasingly violent crowd of oppositionists.

    Giving a romantic image to the anti-Maduro street fighters, a photograph showing two youths wearing Guy Fawkes masks, in front of a wall spray-painted with the words “Maduro is coming for you,” circulated the internet. Ciccariello-Maher pointed out that the image was very deceptive: “That picture was taken in the center of the richest part of Caracas,” he said. Speaking of the protesters, mostly wealthy students, he remarked that “they did not get out of the rich areas, because they knew they did not have support in the barrios.”

    Posts like this on the Huffington Post presented photos painting a romantic portrait of the Anti-Bolivarian protesters wearing Guy Fawkes masks. The post fails to mention that the photos were exclusively taken in the wealthiest neighborhoods of Caracas.

    An anti-government protester, with the Venezuelan flag, kicks back a gas canister to police during a demonstration in which masked youths battled police and blocked a main highway in Caracas.(Reuters / Christian Veron)An anti-government protester, with the Venezuelan flag, kicks back a gas canister to police during a demonstration in which masked youths battled police and blocked a main highway in Caracas.(Reuters / Christian Veron)

    Pointing to the danger of lies spread on social media, Ciccariello-Maher pointed out that “You can debunk it, but by the time you’ve debunked it, a dozen more lies have been spread.”

    Continued Subversion from the United States

    The violent campaign of “La Salida” was defeated because it did not have support among the population.

    “It may have been effective internationally, but it was not effective where it counted: domestically,” Ciccariello-Maher remarked. He went on to describe how the deceptive social media campaign had weakened the international response in defense of Venezuela.

    “People in the United States, people on the left -- we failed.” He said. “We fell for the allure of the protester in the streets.”

    Since the end of the “La Salida” campaign, Robert Serra, a leader of the Bolivarian Movement who had been elected to the National Assembly, was stabbed to death in his home. Video recorded confessions link the assassins to the US-backed government in neighboring Colombia. A recent plot within the Venezuelan military to depose Maduro has also been exposed.

    US government officials continue to refer to both Maduro and his predecessor Hugo Chavez as “brutal dictators.” Based on claims of repression, new sanctions have been placed on Venezuela by the United States.

    No matter how many times the Bolivarian government has been democratically re-elected, how much the hostile private Venezuelan media is tolerated, or how mildly the extremist opposition is treated, these claims persist. Because the Maduro government continues opposing neoliberalism and the domination of Wall Street banks, western politicians and media pundits continue to insist that it cannot be legitimate.

    The presentation at the Venezuelan Consulate warned that the opposition is likely to again utilize the tactic of creating a staged, unpopular “revolt” as a pretext for foreign intervention. Ciccariello-Maher remarked, “Methods that were historically associated with the left and with struggles against dictatorship are being taken over by the right.”

    Indeed, the overthrow of the elected Ukrainian government by forces aligned with the United States was accompanied by a similar media blitz, filled with deceptive images and videos. A similar social media campaign has presented the US-backed anti-government insurgents in Syria as romantic heroes, downplaying their extremism, slaughter of civilians, and use of child soldiers.

    Venezuela is currently mourning for the 43 people who died during the “La Salida” events. As part of the grieving process, Venezuelan officials are urging the global community to expect similar events, and be prepared to look beyond mainstream Western media for information. They intend to continue down the path of popular reforms in the Bolivarian process, and expect that there will be many more efforts to beat them back.

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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  sepheronx on Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:20 pm

    Fantastic article kyo. +1 for you. This should be translated into all languages so that others can understand that the lure of the US is about selling yourself and your country away. Venezuela, please stay strong.

    Probably a good message to surrounding countries too.

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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:25 pm

    Guys, I get your feelings, but being subverted by US inteligence services is not a proof of being a saint. Chavez and Maduro's reformą were not good. They were only good for the poor and at a huge expense. The middle and upper classes got smashed and started fleeing, crime rate skyrocketed - and economic strength of every country depends on middle and upper class, not on having fancy social welfare financed by a grossly mismanaged oil sector.

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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  Kyo on Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:36 am

    Lothar von Trotha wrote:Guys, I get your feelings, but being subverted by US inteligence services is not a proof of being a saint. Chavez and Maduro's reformą were not good. They were only good for the poor and at a huge expense. The middle and upper classes got smashed and started fleeing, crime rate skyrocketed - and economic strength of every country depends on middle and upper class, not on having fancy social welfare financed by a grossly mismanaged oil sector.
    Is that all you've got, kemo saby?

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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  kvs on Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:04 am

    Compared to what came before Chavez, his reforms were extremely good. He at least bothered to spend oil
    wealth on the poor for which he was maligned by the western media. The western media is a tool of mostly
    American and their vassal state elites. Everything it spews is tied to an agenda. In the case of Venezuelan
    oil money it was about the horrible crime perpetrated by Chavez to shut down the transfer price racket operated
    by CitGo. CitGo was literally siphoning money out of Venezuela and into the US. Interesting how dissident saint
    Khodorkovsky and Yukos were doing the same thing and the western media went ballistic when the racket was
    busted.

    Unfortunately Chavez was besieged by Washington sponsored subversion and went a bit too far with the nationalization.
    Towards the last couple of years of his life he seems to have lost focus. The Venezuelan stock market was actually
    doing very well during the rational mixed economy phase of his reforms. It is hard to tell from the outside if this
    excess was triggered by provocations. I wouldn't be surprised if the owners of various private enterprises were
    loyal to the USA and not to Venezuela. Letting such people control key sectors of the economy is dangerous.

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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:13 am

    Lothar von Trotha wrote:Guys, I get your feelings, but being subverted by US inteligence services is not a proof of being a saint. Chavez and Maduro's reformą were not good. They were only good for the poor and at a huge expense. The middle and upper classes got smashed and started fleeing, crime rate skyrocketed - and economic strength of every country depends on middle and upper class, not on having fancy social welfare financed by a grossly mismanaged oil sector.

    So his economic model gives A-OK for someone to overthrow a democratically elected leader? Let us face it, the culprits were caught and publicly shown for whom they are. And yes, they are US funded. Which comes as no surprise since US has been meddling in this area before they have in Europe.

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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:45 am

    The problem with chavez is that he tried to keep both nationalisation and capitalism. However the the majority of the means of production in control of the venezuelan capitalists(latin american ruling class and bourgeoisie is the cruelest , most inhuman, most self-centered and generally the most despicablein the world) purposefully sabotaged the industries to change public opinion and cause a right wing coup. Chavez and Maduro should've completely nationalized all sectors and kicked out the countries despicable bourgoisie who at the moment are functioning as nothing more than western agents and give it to the working class so it can use that means of production to their needs. Allow educated people to manage it of course.
    The crime problem is not so much the economy than the crowded and flawed prison system. Maduro needs to be more heavy handed with it.
    That's the problem with most latin american socialists, they try to be as good hearted as possible and compromise. They simply underestimate the arrogance, greediness and subversiveness of their countriy's bourgeoisie and the deviousness of the US foreighn policy, thus allowing themselves to get murdered or overthrown by a coup before doing anything meaningful.

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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  Kyo on Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:12 pm

    During Caldera's government, you could hardly speak of the existence of middle classes. Only a wealthy, corrupt few (that fled afterwards to Miami) and the poor masses, that have been favoured by Chavez' and Maduro's policies.

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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:57 pm

    Egyptian style of economics may work for Latin America. Not the best system but would possibly work and make it more "secured" economically. Essentially, it is the military (nationalists) who are investors/owners of major companies. They are also the higher payers of wages and biggest contributors of the economy. Only problem is, certain inefficiencies and corruption. But, it has kept Egypts economy more or less sufficient and on track, while under pressure from US. This also goes for Iran as well. Hand off businesses to nationalists who want to progress the country as well as stay proud of their independence.

    They also need a new economic advisor. Because some people can get rich real quick in venezuela if they started selling cheap toilet paper, basic foods, tampons and sillicon for breast implants.

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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:19 pm

    Kyo wrote:During Caldera's government, you could hardly speak of the existence of middle classes. Only a wealthy, corrupt few (that fled afterwards to Miami) and the poor masses, that have been favoured by Chavez' and Maduro's policies.
    But the trend can clearly be seen today - those who support Maduro are mostly poor and uneducated, those who oppose him are overwhelmingly middle class or businessmen -'and those groups are most likely to migrate. Where? To the US of course. Smile

    Of course if you are in the top 5 of the largest oil producers, you can afford a lot of mismanagement and bad policies - but If you want to make the best use of your resources, then "chavism" is not a way to go. Chavists' hatred of the rich will cause their downfall ultimately.

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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  Kyo on Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:20 pm

    Maduro Claims Venezuela Detained US Citizens for Espionage

    The arrest comes at a time of strained relations between Caracas and Washington. In recent weeks, Maduro has repeatedly accused the United States of plotting to overthrow him.
    "We have captured some US citizens in undercover activities, espionage, trying to win over people in towns along the Venezuelan coast," Maduro said. Venezuelan president did not specify how many people were detained or when the arrest took place.

    The US pilot was arrested in the border state of Tachira. Maduro did not disclose his identity, only saying that he was of Latin origin and carried "all kinds of documentation." Venezuelan authorities are reportedly interrogating him.

    Earlier, Maduro said that several prominent US politicians, including former US President George W. Bush and former US Vice President Dick Cheney, were banned from entering the country, labeling them "terrorists" for US involvement in Syria, Iraq and Vietnam.
    Maduro also announced Venezuela would start limiting the number of diplomatic staff the US can have in the country.



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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  Kyo on Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:29 pm

    Venezuela Gives US Two Week Deadline to Shrink Its Caracas Embassy

    In the interests of parity between embassies, Venezuelan authorities are giving the US Embassy in Caracas two weeks to reduce the number of personnel in the country by over 80 percent, to 17 persons.

    Venezuelan officials have announced that Washington has two weeks to pare down its 100-strong Caracas embassy to 17 persons.
    "The U.S. government must keep 17 diplomats on our soil and we have given them 15 days to present us a list of those who will remain here," Venezuelan Foreign Minister Delcy Rodriguez noted, following a meeting with US embassy trade official Lee McClenney.

    Ms. Rodriguez noted that the compulsory staff reduction would reduce the number of US embassy personnel to the number Venezuela presently has in Washington, DC. The Foreign Ministry and the Ministry of the Interior noted Monday that in the interests of reciprocity, US tourists to Venezuela will now have to apply for a visa to enter the country.

    Rodriguez noted that these measures are in line with the principles of international law and respect between sovereign states. "We have called on relations of reciprocity and sovereign equality and we are calling on coherence,” Rodriguez noted.
    In her meeting with McClenney, Rodriguez explained that the new measures were part of President Nicolas Maduro's response to US interventionism in Venezuela, which has included statements and actions, including sanctions and restrictions on Venezuelan officials, all ostensibly aimed at undermining the stability of the country's democratically-elected government.

    Over the weekend, President Maduro said that his government had detained several Americans believed to be involved in espionage, which led to the decision to carry out several tit for tat retaliatory measures, including embassy and visa restrictions, as well travel bans on several top Republican Party officials, including Senator Marco Rubio and former Vice President Dick Cheney.

    US officials will also now be required to ask permission to meet with opposition groups; the ruling United Socialist Party believes the US has been assisting right-wing extremists who aim to foment unrest. President Maduro had earlier accused Washington of plotting to overthrow him via the bombing of the presidential palace, accusations which US officials brushed off as "ridiculous."



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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  marcinko on Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:43 pm

    It is obvious that for so many years the americunts developed serious ties with the corrupt puppet leadership of Venezuela.

    Now, however you look at it, those local fuckers - altough not in their prime - yield some serious leverage in that kind of disfunctional society thru press, TV etc.

    Foming unrest it`s a CIA speciality especially in a country where masses - for various reasons - are easy to manipulate.

    This is more the case for a country like Venezuela who is rich in resources, it`s big and can influence a lot their neighbours.

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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  Kyo on Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:26 am

    UNASUR (South American countries' union) rejects coup attempt in Venezuela.

    UNASUR rejects any attempt to destabilize democracy in Venezuela, whether internal or external, stated Friday 6 its Secretary General, Ernesto Samper (former Colombian President), says Brazilian site Vermelho.

    A UNASUR delegation met today in Caracas to analyze the political situation brought in to Venezuela following the failed coup attempt of February 12, according to Maduro.

    The Venezuelan President requested the support of the regional integration bloc after producing evidence of a ploy by opposition sectors along with a small group of Air Force members with US support who sought to overthrow his government.

    The delegation is composed of Samper and the Ministers of Foreign Affairs of Equador, Brazil and Colombia appointed to mediate the Venezuelan conflict.

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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  GarryB on Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:06 am

    The 1% are in control of the west and want to get or take control of other countries who have not exhausted their natural resources like the west has.

    The attempts to overthrow Chavez et al are just examples of the tactics the 1% use to get their way... BTW a coup is very undemocratic but they will claim the end justifies the means... of course if you tell that to the people who have to live in these countries where the legitimate government has been overthrown by force they might have a different view of things.

    If US government could say no to big business then they would be less inclined to use secret US government forces like the CIA to support what really equates to white imperialism around the world.


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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:38 pm

    OMG... Rolling Eyes

    Is thinking really that hard? Venezuela, being a country with second largest oil reserves in the world, is facing shortages of even basic products like toilet paper. You call it success, I call it failure. This country is doing much worse than Russia and even worse than Ukraine under Yanuk. How much longer will it last? At some point in the future the inefficient economic structure will collapse and then even the poor masses will turn against Maduro or whoever will rule Venezuela. I predict it will happen in max. 10 years from now.

    Mexico and Brazil are much better success stories than Venezuela - both ara able to sustain a sound rate of economic growth, have a rapidly growing middle class and both are becoming regional powerhouses - without lots of oil.

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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  Werewolf on Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:27 pm

    Lothar von Trotha wrote:OMG... Rolling Eyes

    Is thinking really that hard? Venezuela, being a country with second largest oil reserves in the world, is facing shortages of even basic products like toilet paper. You call it success, I call it failure. This country is doing much worse than Russia and even worse than Ukraine under Yanuk. How much longer will it last? At some point in the future the inefficient economic structure will collapse and then even the poor masses will turn against Maduro or whoever will rule Venezuela. I predict it will happen in max. 10 years from now.

    Mexico and Brazil are much better success stories than Venezuela - both ara able to sustain a sound rate of economic growth, have a rapidly growing middle class and both are becoming regional powerhouses - without lots of oil.

    You nuthead again, dislocated much from reality?

    How often has the US meddled in Venezuela and overthrown and tried to overthrow their elected leaders and governments? They just never stopped, lot of companies like in russia were sold to the west while Venezuala does not gain much of money from it just like with the "Partner Sharign Aggreement" were russia had to PAY Shell and other british and US oil companies so those companies could drill in russia or on russian oil islands.

    The entire South American continent is rich of lot of resources and that is the reason why the US is meddling there and constantly overthrowing and trying to overthrow governments, spreading corruption, terrorism and "interventions" or their hypocrisy of "War on Drugs" which defacto is a "War of Drugs" where they just trying to direct drugs to undermine and corrupt societies of countries they don't like.

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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:41 pm

    Argumentum ad misericordiam is a logical fallacy. Being persecuted or hunted by someone is not a proof of being right. Rolling Eyes As an aspiring debater you should know that.

    Future prospects of Mexico & Brazil are better than Venezuela's - you may like it or not. They both have larger GDPs per person, faster economic growth, growing middle class and developing science. And they don't have shortages of toilet paper - all that proves that their ideas on building a state are better than the ideas of Chavez and Maduro. Maybe because these two actually let their people with business ambitions realize their dreams instead of supressing them at all costs in the name of some red ideological BS? Rolling Eyes

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    Post  Werewolf on Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:11 pm

    Lothar von Trotha wrote:Argumentum ad misericordiam is a logical fallacy. Being persecuted or hunted by someone is not a proof of being right. Rolling Eyes As an aspiring debater you should know that.

    Future prospects of Mexico & Brazil are better than Venezuela's - you may like it or not. They both have larger GDPs per person, faster economic growth, growing middle class and developing science. And they don't have shortages of toilet paper - all that proves that their ideas on building a state are better than the ideas of Chavez and Maduro. Maybe because these two actually let their people with business ambitions realize their dreams instead of supressing them at all costs in the name of some red ideological BS? Rolling Eyes

    Yep, a fool countries are under constant attacks, destabilization and installing of corrupt crooks pro-americans that are looting the country...sure it is all to blame on Chavez. Same idiocracy comes from TR1 and his blaming of Cubas shitty economy, because they are bad at economy Rolling Eyes ...get educated.

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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  NationalRus on Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:43 pm

    this country is run to the ground by jabba the hutt and after he died from corpulence cancer now by the bus driver, its zimbabwe 2.0 very soon, no rule of law, state sanctioned looting, expropriation as a show on tv without court proceedings, now they crumble, totally so fuck them let them burn


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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sat Mar 07, 2015 3:51 pm

    Werewolf wrote:Yep, a fool countries are under constant attacks, destabilization and installing of corrupt crooks pro-americans that are looting the country...sure it is all to blame on Chavez. Same idiocracy comes from TR1 and his blaming of Cubas shitty economy, because they are bad at economy Rolling Eyes ...get educated.
    But Brazilian economy is developing fabulously in total defiance of constant attacks, destabilization and installing of corrupt crooks pro-americans that are looting the country. Smile See? A miracle or what? Everything is possible, you just need to know what to do. Chavists certainly don't know.

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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  Kyo on Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:40 pm

    Shortage or lack of toilet paper was news broadcasted by BBC in May 21, 2013.
    lol!
    Since then it hit the headlines of pro-US MSM.

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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  NationalRus on Sat Mar 07, 2015 5:42 pm

    ther is a shortage for everything they dont produce on mass themselfs and thats not much since they canibalized ther own small industry, maybe state sanctioned lootings will help? hahaha

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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:41 pm

    NationalRus wrote:ther is a shortage for everything they dont produce on mass themselfs and thats not much since they canibalized ther own small industry, maybe state sanctioned lootings will help? hahaha

    Utter bourgeois anglosaxon propaganda horseshit. It's Venezuela's upper class industry owners who are purposefully withholding supplies causing an artficial shortage in hope of causing an overthrow of the current government and so libertarian lying shills like you can spread your bullshit to the rest of the world.

    If chavez was actually anticapitalist this wouldn't've actually happened. They should've kicked out all these CIA controlled oligarchic douchebags out from sabotaging Venezuela's means of production.

    There also wouldn't be any bourgeois terrorist attacks against the workers, peasants and bolivarian government officials like what's happening now.

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    Re: The US meddling in Venezuela

    Post  NationalRus on Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:51 pm

    yeah blame the evil capitalist who didnt wanted to sell ther product to ther citizen and CIA commandos who truely are everywere in venzuela sabotaing everything left and right, they must be also the ones who destroyed ther rule of law, ther judiciary system, ther currency and with that ther imports on which they depend ther investment climate, and organized every protest for this incradble regime of saints who are to perfect to protest against. jabba and the bus driver have done fantastic work indeed

    in reality venezuela is in the shit, its falling apart so deep its in the shit, try to find marxist excuses it wont change anything venzuelas citizens are truehly enjoying ther life more and more as the days go past, mugabe will feel soon at home ther

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