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IRAN: Latest and Breaking News

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Post n°626

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nomadski Mon May 23, 2022 6:15 am

Some of you may remember , me saying that , since I live in the UK as a political exile and refugee , and that I have been a blogger on various web sites in the past 16 years , and smetimes critical of the Iranian political system . Then my family in Iran was threatened , by an agent of Iran , an anti-socialist man , with the name of Homayoon Farahmand , an informant of the regime . He is a businessman living in Glasgow , Scotland . My name is Adel Khodai , and I live in Liverpool . UK .

I complained to the British police , about being terrorised by this man , who sent continuous letters to me , saying that the health of my parents is bad , and I should go back to Iran ! Where I know , I will be taken on false charges and imprisoned like many others . The British authorities then , published a name similar to his name , saying that such a person , may have also conducted similar plans , with regard to Iranian exiles in the USA also . The name that BBC published , was Homayoon Farahan . A name very similar to his name , to warn him and caution others against him . He since then , not contacted me , or bothered me !

I have recently posted articles , critical of the some politicians in Iran , and including this forum . Today the media , reported that , supposedly , a colonel in IRGC, with the name of ; Hassan sayad khodai ( translated as , Hassan Hunter khodai ) was assassinated in Iran ? You must understand that my surname is very rare indeed in Iran . Also the translation of this name is a hunter or killer of khodai !

To me it is obvious that , their spy in England was exposed by myself , and I showed that killing my parents , will not return me to Iran , or stop me from posting or blogging . And threatening me with being killed or shot here in UK , by a theatre , will not stop me from blogging .

State terrorism by reactionary elements , will only make me more determined , to voice my opinion against the corrupt elements in Iran . So come and kill me or shoot me or ...... makes no difference .

Long live the democratic Republic of Iran . Down with reaction and dictatorship .

Adel khodai .

UK

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-61546145

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nomadski Fri May 27, 2022 9:14 pm

https://en.mehrnews.com/news/187250/IRGC-Navy-seizes-2-Greek-oil-tankers-in-Persian-Gulf

Only an effective government by the people , a democratic majority , is capable of reversing this trend of blockading of Iranian commerce . A compromised apparatus , ruled by right wing liberals and Bazaar , will never antagonize the " boss " USA ! By building a nuclear deterrent , that enables a conventional escalation against them . Leading to if necessary , a nuclear war against them . Iran will therefore become weaker every day , while stupid , traitor JCPOA talks are carried out . The country gets weaker and poverty rises . Street protests turn violent . All authority collapses . The Americans and their terrorist cohorts ,will then march in , bring back the Shah , while many of the Bazzari and land Lord and wealthy owners , will line the street and cheer and clap ! They would rather a puppet USA king in power , than they share power with Iranian socialists and democrats . The clergy will side with them too .... They say " ....we are not Marxists..... "

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TMA1 Fri May 27, 2022 11:41 pm

Who said that? That sounds like a silly attempt at masking appeasement to the west.

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nomadski Sat May 28, 2022 9:06 am

TMA1 wrote " Who said that? That sounds like a silly attempt at masking appeasement to the west. " yup , you are right about appeasement . But it is even worse than that . Those in power ( The right wing and clergy ) , including the late Ayat . Khomeini , who wrote a letter to Americans , before arriving on Air- France jet to Iran , saying that " ...we do not mean to confront or fight against USA.... " and exterminating the left wing , were in collusion with them , covertly . Their trick has been , how to hide their tracks ? Hide their capitulation to the west ? Hide their brutal oppression of the left wing ? How to look revolutionary to the people ? But you know what they say ! You can fool some of the people , some of the time ! Socialism in it's democratic forms , is a well established form of politics , across many countries . Even Bernie Sanders is safe from persecution in the evil USA ! National interests are gained by participation of the entire population . A true Republic .

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nomadski Sat Jun 04, 2022 1:06 am

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BmGT-TJXuo4

When I was 3 to 5 years old , my father took me to Tehran Airport to see the late Shah , return from abroad . He put me on his shoulders , so I could see the Shah pass . His son was in this black Limo near the rear window , and his father was next to him . Seeing me , on my father's shoulders , the late Shah , pointed me out to his son ! Maybe he remembers , maybe not . But I remember . He is a year older than me ! Hamdoreh .

A king or Monarch , can not be part of a democratic system . Because a king or Monarch , is a class of one . As opposed to say the workers , who are a class of millions . And they have sufficient numbers to elect MP' s to parliament . The present Iranian parliament only has one of two workers as members , and is not democratic either . The only place for an individual , who calls himself a king , in a democratic system , is as a private individual , who according to his wealth and class ( economic ) has a right to one vote . Say if there were X numbers of wealthy traders , allowing them Y numbers of MP . Then addition of one extra trader or " king" , will add insignificantly to number of votes for traders .

In this YouTube video , the crown Prince , calls for more protests , support of the Army , unity , democracy . Without political parties , and existence of fighting among different groups , there exists no organised force of alternative , to form a democratic system . A new constitution . All that prolonged mass protests will achieve , is to provide opportunity for loss of control by present authorities , allowing a coup or foreign intervention .

An analogy can be to a glass of stale water , and an empty Jug for water . One can not throw away , the stale water and die of thirst , when the Jug is empty . One has to fill the Jug first , then throw out the stale water , then fill the glass with fresh water and drink ! That is why political parties of the masses of workers and farmers and teachers must form , however difficult a task , and then a provisional democratic constitution written , before referendum . Continuous protests leading to " overthrow " of present authorities , however stale their minority apparatus , will leave Iran at the mercy of Chaos and foreign intervention .

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nomadski Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:51 am

https://en.mehrnews.com/news/187848/Parl-to-review-Iran-s-NPT-membership-suspension

I suggested years ago , putting down some nuclear material on the ground , to attract Zionist spy and capture them . They did this and captured Zionist special forces in Iran . Since no Helicopters or plane monitored at the time , then most probably satellites detected ? How sensitive are their detection ? By putting down various sizes of material , in or above ground , we can find out . And build our installations in secret , immune from Bombing . But I also suggested putting down nuclear material in different locations , to suggest presence of nuclear plant , as diversion , against bombing runs . And this should continue .

Also exiting the NPT , may bring with it the danger of bombing by the enemy , of known nuclear sites and escalation to full scale war . It is important to build the nuclear defence before exiting the NPT . In case of attack , deterrence force ready , against escalation into shock and awe !

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Backman Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:05 am

- BREAKING: Iran & United States talks in Doha ended in less than an hour

The Iranians walked out after the U.S. side refused to guarantee that they would not pull out of the deal in the future.

Iranians called Biden's regime weak and incompetent.

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Post n°633

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Backman Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:09 am

Iran negotiating with the United States. Fool me once ?

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Post n°634

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Broski Fri Jul 01, 2022 2:43 pm

Perfidious Albion (the UK) and his bastard son (the US) aren't to be trusted in any sort of deal, signed on paper or otherwise. Unless your name is Israel, a deal with the Anglo's is never honored in the long-term.
Best thing Iran can do is wait for B.R.I.C.S to create a universal alternative to SWIFT and join that payment system as soon as possible.

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AlfaT8 Fri Jul 01, 2022 4:50 pm

Broski wrote:Perfidious Albion (the UK) and his bastard son (the US) aren't to be trusted in any sort of deal, signed on paper or otherwise. Unless your name is Israel, a deal with the Anglo's is never honored in the long-term.
Best thing Iran can do is wait for B.R.I.C.S to create a universal alternative to SWIFT and join that payment system as soon as possible.

Word on yhe street is, that there might be a Brics currency in the works too.

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nomadski Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:58 pm

The question is , what Road does a man follow , given a choice ? Given two options , not too dissimilar in nature . Both giving the same material benefits . All this posturing by Iranian authorities : Anti- imperialism ! Anti-zionism ! Joining the SCO or BRICS , is it because the authorities ( the many Iranian Hizb-Allah ) have seen the light ? Or is it because they have no choice ? If by some chance the Americans lifted the sanctions , and fixed a favourable ( for import / exporters ) Dollar exchange rate , then would all these " revolutionaries " not abandon Russia and China and Venezuela ?

Of course they would , since the right - wing , Bazzari , reactionary , fake revolutionary , super - " Islamic" America - worshippers , see themselves in " antagonism " , with Russian policy ( having independent foreign policy , national -democracy , deterrence ) . Sorry to say ! They are more concerned with cutting the throats of democrats or fashioning a noose for the " opposition " ! Who are calling for the Army and security services " to put down their weapons against the people - not shoot them . " Surely the revolution is defeated . Surely the Iranians are a weak nation . 70 % of the Iranian " Hizb - Allah" ( the minority in power now ) in Iran are anti - Russian , 30% are pro- Russian .

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Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:01 am

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #16
Post Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun May 15, 2022 2:09 pm

More drones?
Yes, call in Tehran and request 40 x Schahed 129 to inclusive teams. Air bridge and they will be on the front in 3 days.
Please add it every month. Payment is made with MIG-29M2/SMT or 35. What is Moscow waiting for?

Yes Baby! Yes! Finally, read here ...

Reb wrote: В Россию уже доставлены первые летательные аппараты в рамках подписанного соглашения

Readovka уже писала, что существует большая вероятность того, что Россия получит иранские БПЛА Shahed 129 для использования в рамках СВО, о чем косвенно свидетельствовало подписанное между двумя странами соглашение в области авиационно-технического сотрудничества. При этом сделка по поставкам военной авиационной техники может оказаться двусторонней.

Как сообщает американский Институт по изучению войны со ссылкой на данные разведки, Россия уже получила первые беспилотники в рамках подписанного соглашения. Кроме того, по озвученной информации, в РФ прибыли иранские специалисты, которые будут обучаться обслуживанию истребителей Су-35, что, в свою очередь, говорит о том, что подобные машины могут быть поставлены Ирану в обмен на беспилотники.
https://readovka.news/news/106872

The first aircraft has already been delivered to Russia as part of the signed agreement

Readovka has already written that there is a high probability that Russia will receive the Iranian UAV Shahed 129 for use under its own, as indirectly evidenced by the agreement signed between the two countries in the field of aviation-technical cooperation. At the same time, the transaction for the supply of military aircraft may be bilateral.

According to the American Institute for the Study of War with reference to intelligence data, Russia has already received the first drones under the signed agreement. In addition, according to the announced information, Iranian experts arrived in the Russian Federation who will study the Su-35 fighters, which, in turn, suggests that such machines can be delivered to Iran in exchange for drones.

Thank you very much, finally someone here listens to me ... Wink

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crod Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:20 am

No idea how accurate or not but great news if true. I assume the latest Gaza variant will be in full combat test mode over there too?
Didnt CAATSA result in the cancelation of Egyptian 35s? So they're sitting there idle then? Could be a win/win. Not sure the jews will be overly thankful to the yanks. Oh well....

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Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:23 pm

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #16
Post Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun May 15, 2022 2:09 pm

More drones?
Yes, call in Tehran and request 40 x Schahed 129 to inclusive teams. Air bridge and they will be on the front in 3 days.
Please add it every month. Payment is made with MIG-29M2/SMT or 35. What is Moscow waiting for?

Yes Baby! Yes! Finally, read here ...

Reb wrote: В Россию уже доставлены первые летательные аппараты в рамках подписанного соглашения

Readovka уже писала, что существует большая вероятность того, что Россия получит иранские БПЛА Shahed 129 для использования в рамках СВО, о чем косвенно свидетельствовало подписанное между двумя странами соглашение в области авиационно-технического сотрудничества. При этом сделка по поставкам военной авиационной техники может оказаться двусторонней.

Как сообщает американский Институт по изучению войны со ссылкой на данные разведки, Россия уже получила первые беспилотники в рамках подписанного соглашения. Кроме того, по озвученной информации, в РФ прибыли иранские специалисты, которые будут обучаться обслуживанию истребителей Су-35, что, в свою очередь, говорит о том, что подобные машины могут быть поставлены Ирану в обмен на беспилотники.
https://readovka.news/news/106872

The first aircraft has already been delivered to Russia as part of the signed agreement

Readovka has already written that there is a high probability that Russia will receive the Iranian UAV Shahed 129 for use under its own, as indirectly evidenced by the agreement signed between the two countries in the field of aviation-technical cooperation. At the same time, the transaction for the supply of military aircraft may be bilateral.

According to the American Institute for the Study of War with reference to intelligence data, Russia has already received the first drones under the signed agreement. In addition, according to the announced information, Iranian experts arrived in the Russian Federation who will study the Su-35 fighters, which, in turn, suggests that such machines can be delivered to Iran in exchange for drones.

Thank you very much, finally someone here listens to me ...

Russia buys 1,000!!! drones from Iran and expands the level of strategic cooperation
https://ejmagnier.com/2022/08/13/russia-buys-1000-drones-from-iran-and-expands-the-level-of-strategic-cooperation/
WOW

2 million on average = approx. 24x Su-35
other 36x Su-30SM2 ?

With 1000 units, presumably of all kinds of drones, the Iranians can also build a manufacturing road in Russia. There would still be enough work for Iran.

This is a very serious and deep partnership. That should now flow in the other direction. Get a couple of MIG-31 out of the warehouse and send the Iran 12-14 of them on B levels with weapons, training and support.

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nomadski Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:05 pm

Good news . I hope they get the planes ready for air to air engagements , over Iranian territory . Station them near the Persian Gulf and West border near Iraq . Teach pilots WVR combat also . Iranians do manufacture long range AA missile based on American Phoenix . But GarryB said that Russia has long range AA missile that is even longer range than the American ones . As long as we get a fix on the low RCS plane , with some kind of Radar , even ground Radar ? I think it important also to send good supply of Ammo and spare parts , to last a few months .

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GarryB Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:04 am

The R-37M currently in service can hit targets at 300km range in the domestic version... 200km for the export RVV-BD model.

With the US breaking all sorts of export agreements selling long range cruise missile weapons to eastern european countries, I would think joint development of various new weapons with Iran should be a good way of showing Russias displeasure and also helping Iran out...

The new missile that will replace the R-37M is the Article 810 which is described as having a flight range of 1.6 to 9 times greater.

Launching missiles at different altitudes greatly effects their flight performance, especially rocket powered missiles.

An AIM-9 Sidewinder missile might have a range against an enemy target at high altitude of 30km when launched at supersonic speeds at a high speed target like a MiG-25 closing at high speeds, this is because the missile flying at altitude and already flying supersonically all the solid rocket fuel is used to accelerate the missile instead of having to climb and accelerate from a much slower speed... the altitude advantage and the added top speed allows it to fly much further as the high altitude launch means less drag slowing it down so it can attain a much higher speed in the thinner colder air and therefore coast much further.

A launch from sea level and low speed... say from a helicopter and its range might be less than 10km.

It would be the same with the R-37M... the 300km range is from a high altitude and high speed launch... launching from lower altitudes and lower speeds will reduce the flight range of the missile dramatically... a low altitude launch at slow speeds the missile might only reach 50km because most of the energy in its rocket motor will be used up climbing and accelerating to high speed while a high altitude launch means it is already high and already moving at speed so the rocket motor makes it fly even faster... which translates to range.

For the same reason the Iskander ground launched missile has a range of 500km while the Kinzhal air launched version can reach 2,000km when launched from a MiG-31 at mach 2.5 and 18k altitude.... it is like adding an extra stage to the missile that gets it airborne and moving at high speed before it uses any rocket fuel.

With a 1.6 to 9 times increase in range performance this suggests to me that the 810 is a ramjet powered missile... and the 1.6 times range improvement comes from also flying high and fast but also being able to throttle the thrust for fuel efficiency. The 9 times increase in range might be for a low speed low altitude launch where a ramjet motor does not have the penalty a rocket motor has because the ramjet burns all the way to the target so you can go max thrust full AB to climb from low altitude to high altitude and accelerate to high supersonic speeds and then throttle back to counter drag to extend flight range.

In comparison a solid rocket motor burns at a fixed rate for a fixed period so running at low altitude the top speed of the missile is limited by the thick air so a normally mach 6 missile might only achieve mach 3 speed as it climbs and accelerates, and so it wont reach the heights the same missile launched from higher altitudes and higher speeds can achieve so its range will be dramatically reduced.

With a ramjet however the engine burns throughout the flight of the missile so being fired from low altitude will still effect range but not so much... a bit like a jet plane they climb when they take off because they fly faster and use less fuel at altitude and any energy they burn climbing to altitude is recovered when it comes down again nearer the target (airport it was heading to).

So if the R-37M has a max range of say 350km and a low altitude range of 50km then the article 810 would have a range of about 550km or thereabouts ( the competition was supposed to end up with a 400km range missile but that was with the MiG-31M which flys higher and faster than most fighters... so a 350km estimate is probably more realistic) for max range at high altitude and high speed, while low altitude and subsonic speed launch of 50 x 9 = 450km... which is quite reasonable for a ramjet powered missile.

Of course a scramjet powered missile would be capable of rather higher speeds and higher altitudes and use a similar design but likely different more energetic fuels for greater ranges and higher speeds.

(note that it is known that during testing in the 1990s that the MiG-31M with a standard radar (ie not the more powerful ZASLON-M that was developed for the MiG-31M) tested the R-37M missile using an Su-30 that was flying closer to the target to provide target information. The flight distance of the missile from launch to hit was recorded at 300km.

Being an ARH missile it does not need a precise track of the target and nor does it need the launch aircraft to illuminate the target either.

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nomadski Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:05 pm

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/24/middleeast/mahsa-amini-death-iran-internet-un-investigation-intl-hnk/index.html

The Americans think that if this religious right wing administration fails in Iran , through a popular uprising or revolution , that they are in with a chance of pushing their own boys into power ! That is why they are helping with the internet ! But I think , there is as much or more chance of real people power in Iran right now , without the reactionary right wing and the allied Mullahs , or the pro- western liberals or the puppet Shah . Looks like both are heading into the dustbin of history . How much democracy will people get ? This is not known , but almost anything ( apart from a pro-Amrican puppet Shah or reactionary Bazzari Mullahs ) seems better by far . The present situation of shootings and killings and political arrests and imprisonment and torture and exile and making unemployed and ..... is unsustainable . The revolution in Iran , took a wrong turn . Time to put things right . I suggest the armed forces join the people and arrest those calling for shooting and killings and actual shootings and killings on the streets . Long live the Iranian people . Long live democracy .

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nomadski Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:02 am

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4MqbP101P3c

Only individuals or groups that have no blood on their hands , can be part of a democratic system , irrespective of their ideology . This means that the Royalists that supported the late Shah and the cursed SAVAK , who want to abolish democracy and replace with absolutist rule , can not be a part of the future democratic system . Neither can any group that participated in killings in the past or present , such as the MKO , who have become a tool of American imperialism . Nor any individual or group , part of the right wing state apparatus , responsible for the oppressive measures , during the past forty years . The Iranian people should now form political parties and write a new democratic constitution together , based on freedom of thought and freedom of ideology and political affiliation and proportional representation . With power solely residing with a democratic parliament . The armed forces should protect public gatherings , and stop attacks by anti-social democratic elements .

ESTEGLAL- AZADI - DEMOCRACY - TAGHEER- E QANOON -E ASASI .

Edit : The Iranian people should not damage the economy by closing shops or factories or production of oil or goods . They should not close schools or university or government buildings . They should not block streets to traffic . They should not shout about the slogan of death to leader . They should not attack security forces . The struggle is a political one . Formation of a democratic state . A multi - party democracy . Demonstrations should take place , only if peaceful and outside towns or in Parks , or stadiums or large cinemas or theatres , and outside working hours . Children should not be allowed to go to demonstrations . .........security forces should not use batons to disperse peaceful demonstrations , or use tear- gas or shot- guns or AK 47 ! The leaders should calm the people and announce a referendum on a democratic constitution !

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ9myHhpS9s

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nomadski Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:50 pm

https://m.facebook.com/robin.reshvan.5/videos/fire-and-gunshots-in-notorious-evin-prison-in-iran-where-thousands-of-kurdish-an/656821209190843/

Looks like either an attack on the prison ( torture chamber of right wing ) holding political prisoners or a fire set by prisoners , and guards firing and killing prisoners . Flashes of gun fire can clearly be seen in the smoke rising . During the 1979 revolution , the revolutionary groups stormed this very prison , to free political prisoners . They had no weapons at first , when they came under fire from SAVAK , the Shah secret killers , so they stormed Army stores and obtained guns . Then they fired back at the Army that was killing them . This is like history repeating itself for me ! The same basic struggle going on between the right wing ( anti-democratic ) and the left wing ( democratic ) groups . The people gave the guns back after the revolution . Then there was mass arrests and execution of the mostly unarmed left wing . It looks like by this act alone , that this is an irreversible turning point . The struggle will now take antagonistic and violent forms .

The counter - revolution wants :

( 1 ) No national political organisation to lead protest movement . Their excuse is that , this is impossible . Yet It was the Tudeh party and Fedayeen( M ) that led the fight
against the Shah . A secret organisation , yet an organisation . A political party of Iranian working class .

( 2 ) No correct slogans for the protest movement , imposing this slogan of " women , life , freedom " , instead of " independence , freedom , democracy " . To divert
attention from the national goal of democracy , for the majority , a pre-condition for freedom .

( 3 ) No practical and effective method for capturing political power , apart from small groups typing on mobile phones and stopping traffic , or workers going on strike to
cut oil output , to render Armed forces useless by lack of fuel and being busy on the streets , to allow foreign military intervention .

( 4 ) No political leaders needed according to them , as these are not needed and will emerge at a later date . Nobody has a right to be a leader and give advice ! Unless it
is by them !

( 5 ) No need to learn from other protest movements , or revolutions , since Iranian people are unique and need no lessons from anyone .

( 6 ) No need for political talks between political parties ( political parties can not form ! And the young have the internet instead , a chaotic capillary sporadic movement
hard to defeat !) either in open or secret for a compromise solution or formation of new government .

................ " club house ? " ......whose club ? Whose house ? ......sepas va dorood ham bar shoma !

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nomadski Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:46 am

It says in the Bible that " ...children carry the sins of their Fathers , for three or four generations ! " Children should not be left with the problems of resolving social problems , that they did not create . They should not kill or be killed . I argued on Iran military forum , about ten years ago , against those that wanted to use Shot -Guns against demonstrators ! As a means of crowd control ! I did mention many times , how and where demonstrations should be held . And what modern crowd control is . Yet these killings are about " fear " . The sins of the Fathers , visiting their Children . Four generation is about eighty years , we have another fifty years of this .

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KZGfGJvY2Dg

All of a sudden , the Iranian troops cross over into R . Azerbaijan AND they open fire into Iraqi Kurdistan AND the order is given to retaliate against " takfiri " terrorist who attacked a shrine ( a target in Iraq or Afghanistan or Iranian Balochistan ? ) AND Iranian troops attacked a Israeli base ? Why do all these things happen , when the Iranian administration is facing being removed by the protest movement ? Another war to deafen the people , like Iran / Iraq war ? An opportunity to divert attention , when they do open fire against protesters ? Wait for a local war soon !

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nomadski Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:00 am

The masses of the Iranian people and the majority must realise that the Iranian revolution was won by the right wing allied with the Mullahs . They formed the state apparatus and the security services . They hold political power . The Mullahs are merely their public face , a religious face they need desperately and hide under to escape the anger of the people and to rule . The extremist reactionary right wing , were the ones who executed democratic socialists , since they would not give up on their socialistic ideas of workers rights and land reforms .

The Iranian people can not affect change , unless they identify and address the problem of this anti - democratic right wing reaction inside Iran . The Mullahs or elements in the armed forces or security apparatus , even the plain clothes hooligans shooting people on the streets , are merely their agents . But the real culprit that is responsible for all the trouble inside Iran , is this class or group in society .

Who are the extremist reactionary anti-democratic right wing : ( 1 ) wealthy land owners ( 2 ) wealthy factory owners ( 3 ) wealthy Bazaari traders . They should be identified and be the DIRECT target of any negotiations by the democratic revolutionaries . Even if they hide themselves , and will not show their faces , unless by a Mullah or plain clothes hooligan with a gun in his hand .

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andalusia Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:20 am

nomadski wrote:
The masses of the Iranian people and the majority must realise that the Iranian revolution was won by the right wing allied with the Mullahs . They formed the state apparatus and the security services . They hold political power . The Mullahs are merely their public face , a religious face they need desperately and hide under to escape the anger of the people and to rule . The extremist reactionary right wing , were the ones who executed democratic socialists , since they would not give up on their socialistic ideas of workers rights and land reforms .

The Iranian people can not affect change , unless they identify and address the problem of this anti - democratic right wing reaction inside Iran . The Mullahs or elements in the armed forces or security apparatus , even the plain clothes hooligans shooting people on the streets , are merely their agents . But the real culprit that is responsible for all the trouble inside Iran , is this class or group in society .

Who are the extremist reactionary anti-democratic right wing : ( 1 ) wealthy land owners ( 2 ) wealthy factory owners ( 3 ) wealthy Bazaari traders . They should be identified and be the DIRECT target of any negotiations by the democratic revolutionaries . Even if they hide themselves , and will not show their faces , unless by a Mullah or plain clothes hooligan with a gun in his hand .

Why do countries like Iran allow the CIA to infiltrate this easily to start riots? I thought they had a better hold on this:

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/10/28/691741/Foreign-spy-agencies--behind-Iran-riots

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nomadski Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:51 am

The " riots " , as you call them , ( and the protest movement or revolution , as I prefer to call them , since calling for democracy is a great benefit and burning a bin is a minor inconvenience , as is plain to see - so show respect ! ) have started due to the extremist policies of Iranian right wing , that hold political power . However the CIA , does take advantage of this situation , and who can blame them ? They are the enemy after all . But to externalise the problem and blame them here is a lie ! They did not impose the political system in Iran , although by allowing Khomeini safe passage from Paris to Tehran , they played a part in diverting the Iranian revolution . Neither did they murder Iranian women by hitting on head or throw from Roof , while alive ! The Iranian right wing did all that .

The CIA and anti-democratic elements inside and outside Iran ( both religious and non- religious , liberal or " national " ) , hardly talk about democracy or workers or farmers or teachers rights or power . They will not talk about the formation of a democratic society or Republic . They will not encourage democratic political slogans or leadership to exist . But they will talk a lot about tactics in fighting street battles , blocking Roads , and a general strike of oil workers or others , and crippling the economy and state apparatus completely ( and not merely the oppressive security elements ) by expulsion of diplomats and crowds occupation of government buildings ..........to allow a coup or foreign intervention , instead of democratic revolution .

The wealthy land owners and factory owners and Bazzari traders much prefer a return to American rule by puppet Shah , or the status quo , than formation of a democratic /socialist Republic by the Iranian population . Their tactics are known , they will work with CIA and MI6 , and have been for sometime .

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crod Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:02 am

@nomadski can you fill in the blanks for us all please re the red flags of revenge raised over mosques? From what I’ve read and I’ve no idea on its accuracy but his has something to do with KSA being blamed for an attack on a Iranian mosque??

Do the red flags mean anything really or just warnings? I know they were raised before the attack on the US base after the assassination of the Gen Soleimani but was that a one off because of the seriousness of the killing?

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