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but personally I prefer the name White Swan rather than Blackjack.+8
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B-2 'Spirit' Stealth Bomber
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but personally I prefer the name White Swan rather than Blackjack.
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The B-2 is a "fly into enemy air space and drop bombs on precision targets" Strategic bomber.
The PAK DA will be two different planes... it will be a theatre bomber with a huge payload with reduced fuel, and it will be a stand off strategic cruise missile carrier, carrying either stealthy subsonic cruise missiles with a flight range of 5-8,000km, or hypersonic cruise missiles with a flight range of a few thousand kms. The point is that the aircraft will be stealthy to penetrate enemy airspace for theatre bombing of smaller countries, while for strategic bombing it will be able to fly within 5,000km of the target... well outside the best defences range and launch cruise missiles.
In other words it will be stealthy enough to penetrate third world countries airspace (after it has first been worked on so to speak), but it will attack first world countries from safer standoff distances.
the result is a cheaper, simpler, subsonic plane that should be like the B-52 and able to soldier on for another 50 years, but will be far superior to the B-52 in performance and stealth.
The PAK DA will be two different planes... it will be a theatre bomber with a huge payload with reduced fuel, and it will be a stand off strategic cruise missile carrier, carrying either stealthy subsonic cruise missiles with a flight range of 5-8,000km, or hypersonic cruise missiles with a flight range of a few thousand kms. The point is that the aircraft will be stealthy to penetrate enemy airspace for theatre bombing of smaller countries, while for strategic bombing it will be able to fly within 5,000km of the target... well outside the best defences range and launch cruise missiles.
In other words it will be stealthy enough to penetrate third world countries airspace (after it has first been worked on so to speak), but it will attack first world countries from safer standoff distances.
the result is a cheaper, simpler, subsonic plane that should be like the B-52 and able to soldier on for another 50 years, but will be far superior to the B-52 in performance and stealth.
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The US Just Held Long-Range Bomber Drills Over An Area Russia Wants
You're not keeping eye on usa developments lately .
Two pairs of B-52H Stratofortress bombers, from Barksdale AFB and from Minot AFB, streaked north last week on a long-range exercise dubbed “Polar Growl.” One set of bombers would end up over the far reaches of the North Sea, while the other would cruise high above the Polar Icecap, both areas where Putin's Russia is increasing its presence. This doesn't seem like a coincidence.
The whole affair had three main objectives. First, to test and see how US Strategic Command could handle two separate missions, heading into two separate areas, at the same time. Second, to inter-operate with allied air forces and give crews familiarity with mock foreign intercepts. And third, to give B-52 crews experience navigating the extreme northerly latitudes. STRATCOM boss Admiral Cecil Haney described the value of the exercise:
“These flights, demonstrating the credible and flexible ability of our strategic bomber force in internationally-recognized flight information regions, are the culmination of months of planning and coordination... They are one of many ways we demonstrate interoperability, compliance with national and international protocols, and due regard for the safety of all aircraft sharing the air space.”
Such a statement is somewhat of a slap in the face to the Russians who have become increasingly brazen when it comes to their near constant long-range strategic aircraft drills, even turning off their transponders when flying in dense international airspace.
During Polar Growl, the B-52Hs practiced dissimilar air intercepts and maneuvering with Royal Canadian AF, Royal AF and Royal Netherlands AF fighters. All have been intercepting Russian bomber, surveillance and fighter aircraft with alarming regularity over the past year. Major Nathan Barnhart, a 343rd Bomb Squadron instructor radar navigator describes the utility of such a training sortie
And those "many missions" that he references, along with ever decreasing crew flight hours, may be hindrances to the B-52 force's ability to stay in top readiness condition for their nuclear strike role. The truth is that for the past decade and a half they have been busy bombing the Taliban in Afghanistan from tens of thousands of feet up in the air, employing their Sniper targeting pods, which were designed for fighter aircraft, and laser and GPS guided bombs. This is a very different mission than patrolling the arctic as a deterrent towards potential Russian aggression.
Now we will have to see if Polar Growl was just a preview of many more similar missions to come. Seeing as Putin's long-range aviation forces have marauded around the globe with alarming regularity as of late, and the US is already trying to curtail these flights, now it may be time for the USAF to give Russia a little taste of its own medicine.
Do read the replies eg. 1) Russia uses 1950 tech to detect stealth planes 2) These conspiracy theorists don't know russians use a lot of measures to detect stealth meanwhile in that much time our stealth bomber would've bombed their assets already
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-us-just-held-long-range-bomber-drills-over-an-area-1696258955/all
don't forget to bookmark this us military website
: http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com
You're not keeping eye on usa developments lately .
Two pairs of B-52H Stratofortress bombers, from Barksdale AFB and from Minot AFB, streaked north last week on a long-range exercise dubbed “Polar Growl.” One set of bombers would end up over the far reaches of the North Sea, while the other would cruise high above the Polar Icecap, both areas where Putin's Russia is increasing its presence. This doesn't seem like a coincidence.
The whole affair had three main objectives. First, to test and see how US Strategic Command could handle two separate missions, heading into two separate areas, at the same time. Second, to inter-operate with allied air forces and give crews familiarity with mock foreign intercepts. And third, to give B-52 crews experience navigating the extreme northerly latitudes. STRATCOM boss Admiral Cecil Haney described the value of the exercise:
“These flights, demonstrating the credible and flexible ability of our strategic bomber force in internationally-recognized flight information regions, are the culmination of months of planning and coordination... They are one of many ways we demonstrate interoperability, compliance with national and international protocols, and due regard for the safety of all aircraft sharing the air space.”
Such a statement is somewhat of a slap in the face to the Russians who have become increasingly brazen when it comes to their near constant long-range strategic aircraft drills, even turning off their transponders when flying in dense international airspace.
During Polar Growl, the B-52Hs practiced dissimilar air intercepts and maneuvering with Royal Canadian AF, Royal AF and Royal Netherlands AF fighters. All have been intercepting Russian bomber, surveillance and fighter aircraft with alarming regularity over the past year. Major Nathan Barnhart, a 343rd Bomb Squadron instructor radar navigator describes the utility of such a training sortie
And those "many missions" that he references, along with ever decreasing crew flight hours, may be hindrances to the B-52 force's ability to stay in top readiness condition for their nuclear strike role. The truth is that for the past decade and a half they have been busy bombing the Taliban in Afghanistan from tens of thousands of feet up in the air, employing their Sniper targeting pods, which were designed for fighter aircraft, and laser and GPS guided bombs. This is a very different mission than patrolling the arctic as a deterrent towards potential Russian aggression.
Now we will have to see if Polar Growl was just a preview of many more similar missions to come. Seeing as Putin's long-range aviation forces have marauded around the globe with alarming regularity as of late, and the US is already trying to curtail these flights, now it may be time for the USAF to give Russia a little taste of its own medicine.
Do read the replies eg. 1) Russia uses 1950 tech to detect stealth planes 2) These conspiracy theorists don't know russians use a lot of measures to detect stealth meanwhile in that much time our stealth bomber would've bombed their assets already
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-us-just-held-long-range-bomber-drills-over-an-area-1696258955/all
don't forget to bookmark this us military website
: http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com
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US Air Force Approves Software Upgrade of B-2 Strategic Bombers
The US Air Force has approved a $102 million software upgrade for its B-2 strategic bombers, Northrop Grumman announced in a press release from its plant in Oklahoma City.
WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — The CDR is a key review point in a three-year, $102 million contract awarded to Northrop Grumman in August 2014 for the engineering and manufacturing development portion of the program.
“The company successfully completed the critical design review (CDR) of the service's Flexible Strike Phase 1 program on February 3,” Northrop Grumman said on Wednesday.
Now Northrop Grumman has Air Force approval to begin development and integration of new software and hardware for the upgrade, the defense company said.
“The Flexible Strike software upgrade lays the foundation for future system enhancements, including the ability to carry multiple weapon types,” US Air Force Fighters and Bombers Directorate B-2 Division Chief Robert Strasser was quoted as saying in the statement.
“This 'mixed loads' capability will ensure maximum strategic nuclear and conventional strike capability,” Strasser said.
The new software “will also reduce B-2 maintenance costs, increase mission flexibility and increase aircraft reliability,” Northrop Grumman Vice President and B-2 Program Manager Dave Mazur said in the statement.
Northrop Grumman is replacing several operational flight programs (OFP) with a single OFP that can manage all of the B-2's weapons carrying devices.
Northrop Grumman is the US Air Force's prime contractor for the B-2 long range strategic bomber.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150528/1022634516.html#ixzz3bQYqzU6a
The US Air Force has approved a $102 million software upgrade for its B-2 strategic bombers, Northrop Grumman announced in a press release from its plant in Oklahoma City.
WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — The CDR is a key review point in a three-year, $102 million contract awarded to Northrop Grumman in August 2014 for the engineering and manufacturing development portion of the program.
“The company successfully completed the critical design review (CDR) of the service's Flexible Strike Phase 1 program on February 3,” Northrop Grumman said on Wednesday.
Now Northrop Grumman has Air Force approval to begin development and integration of new software and hardware for the upgrade, the defense company said.
“The Flexible Strike software upgrade lays the foundation for future system enhancements, including the ability to carry multiple weapon types,” US Air Force Fighters and Bombers Directorate B-2 Division Chief Robert Strasser was quoted as saying in the statement.
“This 'mixed loads' capability will ensure maximum strategic nuclear and conventional strike capability,” Strasser said.
The new software “will also reduce B-2 maintenance costs, increase mission flexibility and increase aircraft reliability,” Northrop Grumman Vice President and B-2 Program Manager Dave Mazur said in the statement.
Northrop Grumman is replacing several operational flight programs (OFP) with a single OFP that can manage all of the B-2's weapons carrying devices.
Northrop Grumman is the US Air Force's prime contractor for the B-2 long range strategic bomber.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150528/1022634516.html#ixzz3bQYqzU6a
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US Nuclear Bombers Lack Satellite Terminals for Atomic Emergencies 
A new Government Accountability Office report says that US satellite terminals to ensure communications with nuclear bombers do not yet exist and have been delayed indefinitely.
WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — US satellite terminals to ensure communications with nuclear bombers do not yet exist and have been delayed indefinitely, a new Government Accountability Office (GAO) report said.
“[The] development of key satellite communication terminals for strategic bomber aircraft has been deferred by several years,” the report said. “Further details remain classified.”
The terminals were planned to be part of a massive nuclear command, communications and control (NC3) system, the GAO explained.
The NC3 was supposed to be comprised of numerous land, air and space-based components, the GAO noted, that tie together nuclear forces and their commanders all the way up to the White House with “survivable, secure, and enduring communications through all threat environments.”
The GAO said it focused its review on seven NC3 programs “that pertain to planning, decision making, situation monitoring, force management and force direction.”
The GAO chose to focus on these key NC3 programs because they “are among the largest… in terms of estimated cost and… critical capabilities,” the report said.
In its investigations, the GAO interviewed numerous officials from the US Air Force, the US Strategic Command, the Defense Information Systems Agency, Air Force Global Strike Command as well as Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory and other relevant agencies, it said.
The Government Accountability Office is an independent, nonpartisan agency that works for Congress and investigates how the US federal government spends taxpayer dollars.
http://sputniknews.com/military/20150616/1023409639.html#ixzz3dGJcfRRA
A new Government Accountability Office report says that US satellite terminals to ensure communications with nuclear bombers do not yet exist and have been delayed indefinitely.
WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — US satellite terminals to ensure communications with nuclear bombers do not yet exist and have been delayed indefinitely, a new Government Accountability Office (GAO) report said.
“[The] development of key satellite communication terminals for strategic bomber aircraft has been deferred by several years,” the report said. “Further details remain classified.”
The terminals were planned to be part of a massive nuclear command, communications and control (NC3) system, the GAO explained.
The NC3 was supposed to be comprised of numerous land, air and space-based components, the GAO noted, that tie together nuclear forces and their commanders all the way up to the White House with “survivable, secure, and enduring communications through all threat environments.”
The GAO said it focused its review on seven NC3 programs “that pertain to planning, decision making, situation monitoring, force management and force direction.”
The GAO chose to focus on these key NC3 programs because they “are among the largest… in terms of estimated cost and… critical capabilities,” the report said.
In its investigations, the GAO interviewed numerous officials from the US Air Force, the US Strategic Command, the Defense Information Systems Agency, Air Force Global Strike Command as well as Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory and other relevant agencies, it said.
The Government Accountability Office is an independent, nonpartisan agency that works for Congress and investigates how the US federal government spends taxpayer dollars.
http://sputniknews.com/military/20150616/1023409639.html#ixzz3dGJcfRRA
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US Air Force’s B-2 Bomber to Be Outfitted With New Digital Nukes
Read more: https://sputniknews.com/military/201611011046939153-b-2-bomber-nuclear-upgrades/
Read more: https://sputniknews.com/military/201611011046939153-b-2-bomber-nuclear-upgrades/
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Isos- Posts : 11301
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Is almost 1m2 rcs. This sucks since even f117 was destroyed with a lower rcs. Not worth the money and number build.
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To be clear those RCS figures will be for a specific range of frequencies and not broad spectrum numbers, and of course using new IR sensors and of course work on their new technology types of radar... and just simply IADS where one radar transmits and others in other locations just listen means there really wont be such a thing as a radar invisible aircraft...
They are chasing an impossible dream... and the chase is expensive...
They are chasing an impossible dream... and the chase is expensive...
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B-2 bomber was powerless in front of Czech radar
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Чешский радар Vera-NG в армии Вьетнама. Фото: http://defence-blog.com
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At the disposal of the Vietnamese army were passive radar Czech-made Vera-NG. They are capable of detecting American B-2 stealth bombers at a distance of 250 kilometers, Defense Blog writes .
The radar consists of a central node and several remote sensors, remote at 15-40 kilometers. The operation of the system is based on estimating the difference in the time of arrival of the pulse at different sensors. Comparison of signals from two of them gives the exact coordinates of the target in 2D (without height), overlapping information from the third provides a complete position.
Photo: US fighter tried on the latest nuclear bomb
Radar accuracy is noticeably higher than that of microwave counterparts. In addition, a passive radar cannot be hit with a specialized missile - it does not emit the pulses necessary for its guidance. In the Vietnamese army, the radar is based on the chassis of a KamAZ 6x6 off-road truck.
The radar is produced by the Czech company Vera - it was founded by leading engineers of the Tesla electronic concern after its bankruptcy. The radar has many varieties and is used not only in the interests of air defense, but also for monitoring civil air traffic. The military version of the radar was bought by Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan, the USA and Estonia. In 2004, the Czech company Omnipol obtained a license to sell six Vera-NGs to China, but the deal was canceled under US pressure.
https://rg.ru/2020/03/16/bombardirovshchik-b-2-okazalsia-bessilen-pered-cheshskim-radarom.html
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Multistatic radar ?
Not a surprise. Most of the stealth consists in boucing the signal in other directions. Having a strong radar source with other passive radar triangulating the signal is a very good way to have an early warning system. Jamming is almost impossible.
The bad point however is that ot doesn't allow launch of missiles.
Not a surprise. Most of the stealth consists in boucing the signal in other directions. Having a strong radar source with other passive radar triangulating the signal is a very good way to have an early warning system. Jamming is almost impossible.
The bad point however is that ot doesn't allow launch of missiles.
GarryB- Posts : 38981
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With enough radar stations listening it should be possible to triangulate the location of the target... especially a system like some of the Russian ones like NEBO that uses multiple radar in different frequencies that use the advantage of the different frequencies together to spot targets they couldn't detect on their own.
Think of it like using a thermal imagers view overlayed with a day time digital video view so warm targets are highlighted... so a man wearing camouflage will stand out in the IR range so he will glow, but in normal visible light he might be heavily camouflaged yet still stand out because of his temperature compared with the background temp.
Combinations of frequencies should allow detection and tracking with accuracies that an IIR missile with a datalink could be launched to the general location and with its own seeker find and take on the target.
Think of it like using a thermal imagers view overlayed with a day time digital video view so warm targets are highlighted... so a man wearing camouflage will stand out in the IR range so he will glow, but in normal visible light he might be heavily camouflaged yet still stand out because of his temperature compared with the background temp.
Combinations of frequencies should allow detection and tracking with accuracies that an IIR missile with a datalink could be launched to the general location and with its own seeker find and take on the target.
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A US Air Force B-2 strategic bomber after an emergency landing and a fire on the runway at Whiteman Air Force Base on December 11.
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They need to destroy the B2 to get money for the B21. Nice job Lockeed & Martin !!! Biden is proud of you. 
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They need to destroy the B2 to get money for the B21. Nice job Lockeed & Martin !!! Biden is proud of you. yes sir
Ah yes, justification to increase those procurement numbers.
So true.
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