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    Post  JMPT1968 on Fri Oct 30, 2015 11:58 pm

    Hi Everybody,

    I'm new here, but for some time I read here the Middle East discussions.
    Everybody points the finger to SAA, but till now i can´t understand how a lot of untrained guys can put hard fight against crushing fire power.

    If we remember a lot of conflits in the past , I never see, I don't remember , a guerrilla army fight standard battles against a regular army and win some of them.

    More, after 5 years of war, I don't belive in the failure of SAA to adapt to ISIS tactics, except with some untold secret.


    So, if anyone can enlighten me, i will be very pleased, because sometimes i don't understand how SAA loose some battles with superior fire power in defensive positions, and I will like to understand that as observer of military affairs. And don't tell me about the lack of courage, skills or incompetence. Those attributs can explain some battles, but not all the defeats.

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    Re: ISIL/ISIS General Discussion Thread

    Post  Khepesh on Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:35 am

    This could go in any number of threads......
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    Re: ISIL/ISIS General Discussion Thread

    Post  George1 on Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:24 am

    ISIL Militant Admits to Buying Arms in Ukraine, Sending to Syria Via Turkey

    Kuwaiti security forces have uncovered an international cell that supplied the Islamic State terrorist group with Chinese-made weapons purchased in Ukraine, funds and new recruits, US media reported on Friday.

    Six members of the group were arrested but four others are still at large, AP reported, citing Interior Ministry officials in Kuwait City.

    The leader of the group, 45-year-old Lebanese national Osama Khayat, was detained first and disclosed information about the rest of the members during interrogation, the ministry said in a statement.

    According to the information provided by Khayat, the cell was involved in making arms deals on behalf of the Islamic State leaders in Syria, including buying FN-6 portable air defense systems and other weaponry, which were shipped to ISIL in Syria through Turkey.

    During questioning, Khayat also admitted to transferring money to Turkish bank accounts as well as spreading ISIL propaganda online to get new recruits.

    Besides the Lebanese mastermind, Kuwaiti authorities arrested three Syrians, an Egyptian and a Kuwaiti and said four others — two Syrians and two Australians of Lebanese origin — were outside the country.

    Meanwhile, the Ukrainian Defense Ministry denied that it had sold Chinese-made FN6 portable air defense systems to the Islamic State.

    "We cannot sell or resell or make any deals concerning weapons. We are not a business entity and we do not have such weapons," spokeswoman Viktoria Kushnir told RIA Novosti.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151120/1030443084/isil-ukraine-weapons.html#ixzz3s4qDLyJb


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    Re: ISIL/ISIS General Discussion Thread

    Post  George1 on Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:34 pm

    Islamic State is political wrap for heavy oil smuggling — Russian official

    The union with terrorists and smugglers is aimed against interests of all nations, spokesman for the Russian Investigative Committee Vladimir Markin said
    Spokesman for the Russian Investigative Committee Vladimir Markin

    MOSCOW, November 30. /TASS/. The Islamic State (IS) is a political wrap for enormous smuggling businesses, including oil, spokesman for the Russian Investigative Committee Vladimir Markin said.

    "The terrorist organisations, which are outlawed in Russia, - the Islamic State (IS) and al-Nusra - are only political wraps for the big businesses of smuggling oil, currency, arms, cultural heritage objects, donor organs and for slave trade," he wrote in Izvestia’s column.

    "Weak politicians, like Turkish or Ukrainian "leaders," are only puppets, directed by shadow criminal bosses."

    The union with terrorists and smugglers is aimed against interests of all nations.

    "To the tricky question "Russia is protecting by military means in Syria its interests, then why Turkey can’t do so, too?" there is a clear answer: The badly veiled union with terrorists and smugglers in itself is aimed against interests of all the nations, and Turkey is not an exception. It is not a matter of Turkey’s interest, it is a matter of an interest of the international crime."

    "It would have been only weird to be fighting international crime in Syria at the cost of best sons of the Motherland and at the same time not to mobilise all efforts to fight crime in Russia and the CIS countries," he wrote.

    "Clearly, the networks for smuggling, counterfeit, drugs and illegal migrants may be used also for terrorist attacks, like it was in Paris recently," he continued. "All counterparts, unable to control the influence from the international crime and its accomplices in the information war against Russia should consider as no wonder the tougher migration policies or the international activities of the Russian Investigative Committee."

    "Those are measures of precaution, not revenge for offenses."

    "Freedom cannot exist without security," he wrote.

    "Terrorists and their PR-servants dream of frightening us here, in Russia, of making life tougher here. Or to give in, to leave alone the firm position of immediate reaction. Never ever! We shall be improving the order and security of this country and of our people. Though not by limiting rights and freedoms, but right on the contrary - for the sake of keeping them in the current complicated international situation. For this, the first thing to do is to limit the crime, any shadow businesses and networks."

    The war with the international crime cannot be easy, he said.

    "Our every loss, and every provocation against Russia - no doubt - would be used immediately by the fifth column, which still hopes for revenge. But this will happen never ever.".


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    Re: ISIL/ISIS General Discussion Thread

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    Re: ISIL/ISIS General Discussion Thread

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:35 pm


    Spoiler warning: It is Bosnia (shocker.... Cool )

    An under-the-radar European country has become a ‘recruitment hotbed’ for ISIS

    http://www.businessinsider.com/bosnia-isis-recruitment-hotbed-2015-12






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    Re: ISIL/ISIS General Discussion Thread

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Dec 24, 2015 11:46 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Spoiler warning: It is Bosnia (shocker....  Cool )

    An under-the-radar European country has become a ‘recruitment hotbed’ for ISIS

    http://www.businessinsider.com/bosnia-isis-recruitment-hotbed-2015-12







    Lol they've been a hot mess for about 20+ years with KSA crazies running wild. Under the radar, lol they mean a god forsaken place with islamic retards that can't stand that their sweet Bosniaci nationalism is being undone by Islamis illiterates from some shitty desert.
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    Re: ISIL/ISIS General Discussion Thread

    Post  Regular on Fri Dec 25, 2015 11:54 am

    I think Russia should use ISIS to hurt US allies in middle east or create similar crazies to fuck shit up and raise oil demand. Then leave uncle sam to deal with this shit
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    Re: ISIL/ISIS General Discussion Thread

    Post  Militarov on Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:16 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Spoiler warning: It is Bosnia (shocker....  Cool )

    An under-the-radar European country has become a ‘recruitment hotbed’ for ISIS

    http://www.businessinsider.com/bosnia-isis-recruitment-hotbed-2015-12


    Lol they've been a hot mess for about 20+ years with KSA crazies running wild. Under the radar, lol they mean a god forsaken place with islamic retards that can't stand that their sweet Bosniaci nationalism is being undone by Islamis illiterates from some shitty desert.

    In Bosnia till 1992. barely any female was covered, it simply wasnt a thing. Not like someone would forbid it or anything, it simply wasnt done. Today, almost 75% for sure is covered, even young girls like 6-7 years old that go to school. Meanwhile i went to Albania last week, i saw like 3-4 covered older women in total, young none. When i was passing though Kosovo, i also saw hundreds if not thousands of covered females. Its all about how close are you to radicalisation in my mind at least.

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    Re: ISIL/ISIS General Discussion Thread

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:57 pm

    the corrosive destructive effect of saudi. yet the UK and US are in bed with them through thick and thin! It is actually perplexing.
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    Re: ISIL/ISIS General Discussion Thread

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    Battalon Azov fighters wear ISIS symbols

    Post  short_fuze on Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:23 am

    It seems like ISIS gear is the latest fashion trend in the fascist segment of the clothing industry







    Note the nice hookah in the last image. They have got some nice new weapons too.

    More photos and videos in the link

    http://fortruss.blogspot.co.nz/2016/01/azov-battalion-wears-isis-insignia-video.html
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    Re: ISIL/ISIS General Discussion Thread

    Post  flamming_python on Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:07 am

    short_fuze wrote:It seems like ISIS gear is the latest fashion trend in the fascist segment of the clothing industry

    Yeah they should totally run a new line. Open stores in the Ukraine, Baltic states, Islamic State, Afghanistan - fascisto-Islamic dress, I'm sure it'll be a hit lol!
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    Re: ISIL/ISIS General Discussion Thread

    Post  Werewolf on Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:24 am

    I thought it can't get more ridiculous of nazis controlled by jew oligarchs, now having islamist tokens just for the self-hate that they were thought through the past 25 years or more to hate russians which they are.

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    Post  short_fuze on Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:22 pm

    Werewolf wrote:I thought it can't get more ridiculous of nazis controlled by jew oligarchs, now having islamist tokens just for the self-hate that they were thought through the past 25 years or more to hate russians which they are.

    Just more evidence that ISIS is no threat to Israel.
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    Re: ISIL/ISIS General Discussion Thread

    Post  Solncepek on Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:32 pm

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    WOW

    'He's my grandson': Briton recognises boy in IS video


    The family of a young British boy thought to feature in the latest Islamic State (IS) propaganda material have said the youngster is merely being used as "a shield" by the terrorists.

    Henry Dare said he believes his grandson Isa was the unidentified child involved in the footage.

    Police are working to determine whether the boy - thought to be aged under five - is Isa, one of the sons of Grace "Khadijah" Dare, a Muslim-convert extremist from Lewisham in south-east London.

    Mr Dare told Channel 4 News: "He's (used) for propaganda. He doesn't know anything. They (IS) are just using him as a shield.

    "She (Khadijah) should come back and face the music because she has left herself down. All of us, she's let us down."

    The majority of the footage, which has yet to be independently verified, features a masked man who insults Prime Minister David Cameron, labelling him "an imbecile" for launching air strikes in Syria, before killing a prisoner. Four other men then kill one prisoner each.

    He speaks in a British accent and appears to mimic the style of the British man known as Jihadi John - real name Mohammed Emwazi - who was killed in a US drone strike in Syria in November.

    The boy makes a fleeting appearance in a desert landscape at the end of the 10-minute video.

    Wearing camouflage clothing and black headband, he speaks in what sounds like a British accent and says: "We are going to go kill the kaffir (non-believers) over there."

    Grace Dare was brought up as a Christian but converted to Islam and started using the first name Khadijah, her family said. She travelled to Syria in 2012 and married Swedish Islamic fighter Abu Bakr, who is believed to have been killed since.

    Dare, who according to the Daily Telegraph has a younger son as well as Isa, had previously used social media to say she wanted to be the first British woman to kill a British or American ISIS hostage. Last year she was said to have posted a picture on Twitter of Isa with an AK-47 rifle.

    A spokeswoman for Lewisham Council said: "We are unable to confirm the identity of the boy in the video. The council is liaising with the police and we are deeply concerned about any suggestion of a link between these abhorrent acts and our community."

    It is not the first time children have been used in the group's graphic videos.

    In one infamous image, a child was pictured holding a severed head, while another photograph that circulated online showed a young child being encouraged to kick a severed head.

    More than 30 UK children had been made the subject of family court orders over radicalisation fears, Scotland Yard said in August. At that time, judges had considered cases involving 12 different families.

    Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley, the country's most senior terrorism officer, said in some instances the children were "almost babes in arms", with ages ranging from two or three up to 16 or 17.
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    Re: ISIL/ISIS General Discussion Thread

    Post  higurashihougi on Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:59 pm

    When a prostitute is trying to preach something about virginity...

    https://www.rt.com/news/329894-pentagon-isis-coalition-fight/

    Washington has accused Turkey and other US-led coalition members of not doing enough to fight Islamic State in Syria and Iraq. Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said there should be “no free riders” in their attempts to destroy the jihadist militant group.

    Carter mentioned in an interview with CNBC at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, that “We can do a lot ourselves … [but] we are looking for other people to play their part,” as cited by AFP.

    The Pentagon is growing increasingly agitated at the failure of the 65-member coalition to make serious inroads against Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL). Carter even went as far as referring to the alliance as a “so called” coalition, due to the fact that some Sunni-Arab nations were not pulling their weight.

    "Many of them are not doing enough, or are doing nothing at all," Carter said during a Davos question-and-answer session, according to AFP.

    "We need others to carry their weight, there should be no free riders," he added

    The US defense secretary also reiterated calls for Turkey to do more in the fight against IS.

    "Turkey is a long-time friend of ours," Carter said, but "the reality is" that it has a border that "has been porous to foreign fighters."
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    Re: ISIL/ISIS General Discussion Thread

    Post  George1 on Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:10 am

    Daesh Uses Chemical Weapons, Able to Produce Chlorine, Mustard Gas - CIA

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160212/1034620638/daesh-cia-weapons-gas.html#ixzz3zwIE23kx


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    Re: ISIL/ISIS General Discussion Thread

    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E on Thu Mar 10, 2016 3:44 pm

    US losing 19 pilots against the IS.
    From 5:45
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyTuGjWekPk

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    Post  short_fuze on Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:25 pm

    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:US losing 19 pilots against the IS.
    From 5:45
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyTuGjWekPk

    Thay have lost 19 airmen, 8 of whom were due to enemy activity!? The other 11 were lost due to friendly fire or accident? It seems it is less dangerous to attack ISIS than not as far as the USAF is concerned /sarc.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:29 pm

    short_fuze wrote:
    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:US losing 19 pilots against the IS.
    From 5:45
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyTuGjWekPk

    Thay have lost 19 airmen, 8 of whom were due to enemy activity!? The other 11 were lost due to friendly fire or accident? It seems it is less dangerous to attack ISIS than not as far as the USAF is concerned /sarc.

    Ok two guys were gunned in A-stan but the rest?

    Mechanical failures of the Houthi kind...obviously. Helicopter downed?
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    Post  Militarov on Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:46 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    short_fuze wrote:
    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:US losing 19 pilots against the IS.
    From 5:45
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyTuGjWekPk

    Thay have lost 19 airmen, 8 of whom were due to enemy activity!? The other 11 were lost due to friendly fire or accident? It seems it is less dangerous to attack ISIS than not as far as the USAF is concerned /sarc.

    Ok two guys were gunned in A-stan but the rest?

    Mechanical failures of the Houthi kind...obviously. Helicopter downed?

    Also two died in helicopter crash in A-stan when it hit electricity cables, 6 died in C130 crash during takeoff. So that is 8...
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    Re: ISIL/ISIS General Discussion Thread

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:43 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    short_fuze wrote:
    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:US losing 19 pilots against the IS.
    From 5:45
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyTuGjWekPk

    Thay have lost 19 airmen, 8 of whom were due to enemy activity!? The other 11 were lost due to friendly fire or accident? It seems it is less dangerous to attack ISIS than not as far as the USAF is concerned /sarc.

    Ok two guys were gunned in A-stan but the rest?

    Mechanical failures of the Houthi kind...obviously. Helicopter downed?

    Also two died in helicopter crash in A-stan when it hit electricity cables, 6 died in C130 crash during takeoff. So that is 8...

    So we're at 10 so far. Still 9 to go.
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