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    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:43 pm

    Australia postpone the purchase of F-35 fighters for two years
    24/08/2009

    Air Force Australia may defer the purchase of new multipurpose fighters F-35 at least two years, since the Government intends in 2010 to tighten control over defense spending, reports The Australian. In this case, the first squadron, manned F-35, will appear in the Australian air force no earlier than 2017.

    Currently, as explained publication, the government postponed the second phase of the approval decision on the purchase of fighter planes, which cost about 16 billion Australian dollars, or 13 billion U.S.. Under the new plans, in 2014, the Air Force will have to obtain only two aircraft to assess their fighting qualities.

    Purchase of new multi-role fighters for aviation must be the largest defense transaction Canberra. Dearer than it estimated just a project to build twelve new generation of submarines, which cost should amount to more than 25 billion Australian dollars, or about 21 billion U.S..

    In 2010, as stressed by The Australian, the country's air force plans to withdraw weapons fighter-bomber F-111. After this, the Australian aircraft fleet will consist of the upgraded F/A-18 Hornet, which operated for nearly 25 years, and 24 fixed-wing F/A-18 Super Hornet in the new modification, which Australians should be given in 2010-2011.

    Recall that Australia, along with some other countries are considering buying American fighters F-22 Raptor, the export of which has not yet allowed by U.S. law. Because of this, the military opted for the alternative F-35, which will be supplied to the U.S. and its allies. To date, the market for these aircraft is estimated at three thousand units.

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    Post  GarryB on Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:05 am

    First of all Carlos Kopp is a man with an agenda.

    He wants Australia to keep the F-111 in service forever with upgrades that would make it a near F-22. That would cost trillions of dollars so instead he wants F-22s to fly in Australian colours.

    Because of this he really doesn't like or rate highly anything that might be bought instead like the Super Hornet or the F-35.

    He is however an excellent source of information on particularly Russian and Soviet equipment which is why I enjoy reading his articles.

    Having said that the Su-30 series aircraft is rather better than most other aircraft in service in the Asia region and still have growth potential with wing mounted L band radars for example it could detect and track F-35s and even F-22s from their datalink emissions. A new IIR model of the R-27E would make it a very capable stealth aircraft killer in the sense that even active radar homing missiles will have problems engaging stealth aircraft while under some conditions (a super cruising stealth aircraft at high altitude) could probably be detected at very long range via IRST and engaged with an IR guided weapon completely emission free.

    Obviously of course the basic problem is that the F-35s and F-22s are American and if you are fighting them then a few fighter aircraft will not save you.
    The Americans are going to examine what you have and play to their own strengths against your weaknesses.

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    Post  lulldapull on Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:55 am

    GarryB wrote:First of all Carlos Kopp is a man with an agenda.

    He wants Australia to keep the F-111 in service forever with upgrades that would make it a near F-22. That would cost trillions of dollars so instead he wants F-22s to fly in Australian colours.

    Because of this he really doesn't like or rate highly anything that might be bought instead like the Super Hornet or the F-35.

    He is however an excellent source of information on particularly Russian and Soviet equipment which is why I enjoy reading his articles.

    Having said that the Su-30 series aircraft is rather better than most other aircraft in service in the Asia region and still have growth potential with wing mounted L band radars for example it could detect and track F-35s and even F-22s from their datalink emissions. A new IIR model of the R-27E would make it a very capable stealth aircraft killer in the sense that even active radar homing missiles will have problems engaging stealth aircraft while under some conditions (a super cruising stealth aircraft at high altitude) could probably be detected at very long range via IRST and engaged with an IR guided weapon completely emission free.

    Obviously of course the basic problem is that the F-35s and F-22s are American and if you are fighting them then a few fighter aircraft will not save you.
    The Americans are going to examine what you have and play to their own strengths against your weaknesses.

    No Garry, Dr Kopp lays out a case against the SH primarily on the basis of it being extremely short legged compared to the F-111.

    The main or potential adversary of Australia is most likely Indonesia with its so called 'Muslim hordes' ready to descend upon the hapless Aussie's slaughtering them in the bush and paving the way for the 'Chinese Commies' ready to march down under to claim all the fuk*** minerals and metals from us. Very Happy

    Now if you remove the F-111 from the equation, then Australia has no aircraft available to it from either the U.S. or the U.K. that can hit mainland Indonesia from its bases up in the NT or even NW WA. Only the F-111 has that capability as the SH or JSF are both very short legged. Wink

    Now the Su-27SK's that the TNI-AU currently operates have the long legs to not only loiter unmolested over the NW shelf off of WA, but also carry out strikes on the fringes of NW WA without UPAZ or Il-78 refueling.

    Do you now notice the 'short penis' envy here?

    Also the only equipment that can hit Indonesia effectively from WA is ofcourse the B-1b.......but I don't think the U.S. would allow such a transfer of weapons in that region because it upsets the balance of power in that region.

    Although realizing Aussie fears and paranoia with regards to the TNI-AU's operational deployment of the Flankers....the U.S. has recently transferred a consignment of Tomahawks to the Aussie Navy and they have been configured on the Collins class as SLCM's.

    In the event of a 'supposed' war with Indonesia, the paranoid Aussie's would launch the Tomahawks quick to try to catch the Su-27SK's on their bases in the hopes of preemptively destroying them Israeli style.

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    Post  lulldapull on Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:43 am

    Garry, Australia's foreign policy concerns are discussed and settled at 10 Downing street or the White House......

    I am an Aussie citizen btw. And I can tell you with 100% certainty that the siege mentality is in full effect along with the good ol saying.........

    "Oh in times of crises when the Indo muslims and Red Chinese come marching down into OZ........the British and the Americans will save us"! cheers

    IMO.....Australia would never buy a non western aircraft period!

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    Post  GarryB on Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:11 am

    I agree they will not consider it.

    From memory the offer of joint development of the Su-35 and Su-34 with production of parts also included joint work on a future long range AAM.

    Design bureaus in the former Soviet Union tended to work in groups, so Mig would work with one engine design bureau and Sukhoi with another. Mig would work with one radar design bureau and Su would use a different one.

    The R-33 and R-37 are associated with the Mig-31 even though the R-37 is supposed to be used by the Su-35 and Mig-35 and PAK FA.

    The KS-172 has more recently been called K-100 is associated with the Sukhoi design bureau and there was talk this was the missile whose joint development they were offering with the Aussies.

    Have heard rumours the same offer has been made to the Indians too.

    Shame the Aussies can't step back and say to themselves... why are they getting such offers from the Russians and not from the US?

    The Tu-22M3 is the equivelent of 2 x F-111s in terms of payload to range, and in Australian service they could be operated with their inflight refuelling probes reattached.

    Of course at the end of the day the Indonesians and the Chinese simply don't have the capacity to move their forces to Australia for an invasion and their current purchasing choices seem to suggest that such a goal isn't being planned for either.

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    Post  lulldapull on Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:56 am

    I think the Su-34 is in effect the perfect solution for Australia to replace the ancient F-111's.

    Not only does it have the range and payload, but also the NAV/ attack radar and EW suite to make it a fantastic replacement for the F-111.

    There is no way Russia would transfer the 'Troika' to the Aussie's.

    P.S. As far as the R-33 on the Mig-31, I disagree with Dr. Kopp that due to the IRIAF having presented an F-14 to the Russians in exchange for help maintaing the type in IRIAF service and the claim that the Russians copied the guidance package of the crap AWG-9/ Aim-54 into the R-33 and now into the R-37/ Ks-172 program is all bogus!

    The R-33 and its predecessors the SARH R-40/ R-23 on the Foxbat/ Flogger were both indigenous efforts.

    Also Garry I am now inclined to believe the Syrian kill claims against the IDF F-16A's/ F-15A's when their Mig-23MF's launched quite a few R-23's from long range against these IDF types scoring a significant number of kills in the skirmishes post 1982 Lebanon Bekaa fighting.

    The Syrians claim well over a dozen kills with a very good launch to kill ratio for the R-23......as well as the R-40.......USAF F/A-18 pilot Speicher was also downed by an IrAF Mig-25PD using the RH version of the R-40. sniper

    I will start a new topic to discuss this issue of the performance of Russian RH/ SARH missile performance in actual combat.

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    Post  GarryB on Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:00 am

    I agree that the Su-34 would match their stated requirements and I also agree that means very little as it is actually all about politics.

    I also agree that Kopp is way off with his speculations.

    First of all the Soviets were happy to copy directly where the item being copied was clearly better, and they never denied it when they copied something.

    The Tu-4 was a B-29 copy and it was copied because the B-29 was a very good bomber at the time and there was no Soviet equivelent with anything near that performance simply because such an aircraft would not have been much use for the Soviets against the Nazis.
    Equally when an example of the Sidewinder was captured its design was modular and simple, both simple to make and maintain etc.
    The equivelent Soviet missiles were very complex items in comparison so the Sidewinder was copied till the modular design could be replicated.
    They captured models of the Sparrow too and in the competition to arm the Mig-23 one design bureau put forward a copy of the Sparrow, but it lost to the R-23 and later an improved version lost to the R-24.
    Regarding copies the Buran is claimed to be a copy yet it is fundamentally different, it simply uses the same aerodynamics.
    NASA spent 2 billion US dollars working out the best external shape for the Space Shuttle. The Soviets would be idiots to spend another 2 billion seeing if they were right.
    The Soviet Buran however is a glider that sits on a rocket. The US spaceshuttle is like a big huge aircraft with an enormous fuel tank that needs JATO or RATO bottles to get off the ground.
    The difference is that the Space shuttle is a plane that carries 10 tons of engines everywhere it goes.
    If necessary the Buran can be removed from the Energiya rocket and a 110 ton payload can be lifted in its place... a much more flexible system.
    Remember it is incredibly hard to build stuff in space so being able to assemble things on the ground and launch them in one piece drastically reduces the cost of building a space station.

    Before I go too far off track the Zaslon radar is a passive phased array radar with nothing in common with the F-14s radar. The AA-9 is SARH and has little in common with the ARH Phoenix.
    Equally the Iranians are hardly going to hand over information about their, on paper, most powerful fighter/interceptor.
    Finally you'd think if the Russians were given that level of access to Iranian AF Tomcats that they would be flying with Al-31s and of course be equipped with Zaslon radars and R-33 missiles.
    Regarding the F/A-18 shot down it was probably the R-40TD which is still operationally used on Mig-31s.
    It is most likely their primary anti SR-71 weapon enabling long range interceptions from head on.
    When intercepting the SR-71 because of the heat generated by the aircrafts speed the Mig-25 can actually detect and track it at longer range with its IRST than with its radar. The Mach 6 R-40TD has large wings and should get a head on lock at extended range to all an intercept from a Mig-25 or Mig-31.

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    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:35 pm

    Australia’s First F-35A Pilot Takes Flight

    Australia first F-35A pilot, Squadron Leader Andrew Jackson, took his first flight in an F-35A aircraft at Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, United States.

    The flight was on the morning of Wednesday 17 March (US CST) in a United States Air Force F-35A aircraft, as the Australian F-35A aircraft are currently located at Luke Air Force Base, in anticipation of the opening of the international pilot training centre in mid 2015. SQNLDR Jackson will continue his intensive training program over the coming months.

    The F-35A (commonly known as the Joint Strike Fighter) will meet Australia’s future air combat and strike needs, providing a networked force-multiplier effect in terms of situational awareness and combat effectiveness.

    The F-35A’s combination of stealth, advanced sensors, networking and data fusion capabilities, when integrated with other defence systems, will enable the RAAF to maintain an air combat edge.

    The first F-35A aircraft will arrive in Australia at the end of 2018 with the first operational squadron to be established by 2020. The F-35A will replace the aging F/A-18A/B Hornets at RAAF Bases Williamtown (NSW) and Tindal (NT).

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    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:46 pm

    RAAF Tanker To Be Fully Operational This Year

    VICTORIA, Australia — The Airbus KC-30A multirole tanker transport (MRTT) is on track to achieve final operating capability this year with the Royal Australian Air Force, according to Air Commodore Warren McDonald, air mobility group commander.

    The RAAF has five KC-30As, including one currently deployed to the Middle East in support of Operation Okra, the RAAF's contribution to coalition air strikes against Islamic State group targets in Iraq.

    Speaking to reporters at the 2015 Australian International Air Show at Avalon Airport, McDonald said the KC-30A program was behind schedule, but operational use has seen it become the tanker of choice for hose and drogue refueling in-theater.

    For full coverage of the 2015 Australian International Air Show, visit the Defense News Avalon Show Daily.

    "The KC-30A is a step change in capability for our Air Force," he said. "But we should have taken it out of transition and put it into operations a bit earlier. There are times when you have to step out front and make it happen."

    The KC-30A program is on the Australian government's Projects of Concern list, despite its demonstrated maturity in Iraq. Operational test and evaluation of the aircraft's fly-by-wire aerial refueling boom system is due to be carried out through 2015, ahead of final operating capability.

    McDonald said that an airworthiness board meeting in March was expected to issue a special flight permit to allow RAAF operational clearance of the boom to begin.

    Initial focus will be on clearance of the KC-30A as a receiver and will be followed by trials with the RAAFs Boeing E-7A Wedgetail airborne early warning and control platform. Discussions will also be held with the Republic of Singapore Air Force in early March, with a view to clearing the boom to operate with Singapore's Boeing F-15SG Eagles and Lockheed Martin F-16C/D Fighting Falcons.

    Testing will also be carried out with the Lockheed Martin F-35A at Edwards Air Force Base, California, in July.

    Elsewhere, Christian Scherer, executive vice president of marketing and sales, said a decision on the South Korean tanker project was expected shortly.

    "The Koreans understand the capability of the aircraft very well," he noted.

    "We expect a decision in the next few months."

    Scherer said the A330-based MRTT has won eight out of 10 tanker competitions in recent years, losing only in the United States (to the Boeing KC-46A) and Brazil (IAI 767-300).

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    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:05 am

    US State Department Approves 1.5Bln Sale of F-18 Fighters to Australia

    The US State Department has approved a foreign military sale with Australia for the Boeing Company’s F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and EA-18G Growler aircraft in the amount of $1.5 billion, the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) announced in a release on Tuesday.

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — DSCA noted that the sale will assist Australia to have a strong and ready self-defense capability, and will enable the Royal Australian Air Force to ensure the reliability and performance of its F/A-18 fleet.

    “The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Australia for F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and EA-18G Growler Aircraft Sustainment and associated equipment, parts and logistical support for an estimated cost of $1.5 billion,” the release said.

    The Australian government has sought a possible sale and services for 24 Super Hornets and 12 Growler aircrafts, whose sustainment support efforts will have software and hardware updates.

    U.S. Soldiers wait for the CH-47 Chinook helicopter to land so they can depart from an air-assault mission during Operation Champion Sword to search Khost province, Afghanistan, July 28, 2009. Afghan national security forces and International Security Assistance Forces teamed up to focus on specific militant targets and safe havens within Sabari and Terezai districts.

    “This sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a major contributor to political stability, security and economic development in Southeast Asia and around the world,” the release said.

    Implementation of the sale may require continued assignment of US Government and contractor representatives to Australia, according to the DSCA.

    The US Defense Security Cooperation Agency is tasked with developing and executing innovative security cooperation solutions that support mutual United States and partner interests, according to DSCA’s website.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150428/1021496454.html#ixzz3YdytODns

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    Post  George1 on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:21 am

    Australia Refuses to Buy F-35B for Its Military


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    Post  George1 on Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:49 am

    Australia to Get Airborne Electronic Attack Aircraft


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    Post  George1 on Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:17 am

    Australian MRH-90 Helicopter Problems Aired

    Australia ordered a total of 46 MRH-90s in 2004-06, 40 to replace the Army’s S-70A Blackhawks, and six to replace the Navy’s Sea Kings.

    The Australian Ministry of Defence is still voicing concern over the capabilities and performance of its NH Industries MRH-90 Taipan helicopter fleet, nearly eight years after the first pair were received. But a senior official from Airbus Group Asia Pacific (AGAP) said that a series of remedies were pending, or already in effect. The developments were reported by Asia-Pacific Aerospace Report, an Australian newsletter.

    Australia ordered a total of 46 MRH-90s in 2004-06, 40 to replace the Army’s S-70A Blackhawks, and six to replace the Navy’s Sea Kings. Most were to be assembled in Australia at a facility in Brisbane that is now part of AGAP. Delivery delays and initial technical issues led the MoD to place the MRH-90 on its “projects of concern” watch list in late 2011. At that time, a government minister said that many of the issues were shared with other customers for the NH-90.

    The senior management of NHI has since acknowledged that the NH-90 was slow to reach maturity, and has reported a new effort to improve availability for all customers. But Rear Admiral Terry Dalton, the Australian MoD’s head of helicopters, said last month that the time taken to overhaul components was a major problem. He also noted that some capabilities had yet to be introduced, such as separated side guns, a fast roping repelling system, and a cargo hook for operations at sea. Initial versions of the latter two items proved unsatisfactory.

    Charles Crocombe, AGAP vice-president government helicopters, this month told a naval aviation symposium in Australia that 33 Taipans had now been delivered, and the fleet was now exceeding the flight hour “rate of effort” set by the MoD. He said that the Army would test the new fast roping system next month, and that a new cargo hook had been designed. Better seating for fully-combat-equipped soldiers had also been designed. Corrosion issues were being addressed, and the rotor head would be modified.


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    Post  Militarov on Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:19 pm

    "In an Australian first, a RAAF KC-30A Multi-Role Tanker Transport has refuelled a United States Marine Corps (USMC) F/A-18C Hornet with engine trouble over Iraq. The USMC Hornet was flying a combat mission against Daesh over Northern Iraq when it was forced to shut down one of its two engines due to a mechanical issue. Short on fuel, the Hornet requested air-to-air refuelling support from the RAAF KC-30A. A challenging feat at the best of times, air-to-air refuelling with an engine-out Hornet had only ever been conducted in flight testing scenarios and never before from the RAAF aircraft over a war-zone. The RAAF KC-30A aircraft’s captain, Squadron Leader Jamie, said the situation demanded some brainstorming and clever flying.

    “The hardest part was that the Hornet couldn’t maintain the required altitude or speed that we normally refuel at due to the hostile environment over Iraq,” Squadron Leader Jamie said. “The first option was to accept refuelling at a reduced speed, lower than normally required, and refuelling at that speed had never been done by me or my crew. “The other option was to do what we call tobogganing, where we refuel while descending to allow the Hornet to gather more speed. This option would have brought us below a safe altitude, so we went with the first option.” Squadron Leader Jamie said the USMC pilot demonstrated incredible skill and the RAAF KC-30A and USMC Hornet were able to conduct the complicated manoeuvre in order to enable the jet to refuel, fly out of Iraq and land safely. “The Hornet had also dropped bombs from one of its wings, making his aircraft already less stable, which when combined with the loss of an engine, makes refuelling in mid-air a real challenge.



    “He did a great job in the end and it was a good feeling to help him out. “If we hadn’t been able to assist, he would certainly have had to make a less than ideal landing in Iraq.” The Australian Air Task Group comprises six F/A-18A Hornet aircraft, a KC-30A Multi-Role Tanker Transport and an E-7A Wedgetail airborne early warning and control aircraft. As part of Operation OKRA they participate in close air support operations, air to air refuelling and airborne command and control in Iraq and Syria as part of the international coalition formed to disrupt and degrade the Daesh threat."


    Source: http://news.defence.gov.au/stories/2015/10/raaf-kc-30a-refuels-usmc-hornet-with-engine-trouble-over-iraq/

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    Post  George1 on Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:28 am

    Australia has acquired two new aircraft of electronic intelligence



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    Post  max steel on Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:45 pm

    Australia seeks DOD's newest air-to-air missile, the AIM-120D

    Australia could become the first foreign nation to buy the radar-guided Raytheon AIM-120D air-to-air missile under a $1.1 billion foreign military sales package approved by the US government this week.

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    Post  Militarov on Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:06 pm

    "The Obama administration has cleared a potential Foreign Military Sale to Australia for up to 450 AIM-120D air-to-air missiles. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency said in news release No: 16-19 that Austra lia will carry the newest variant of the AMRAAM on its F/A-18, E/A-18G, and F-35 aircraft. Australia is the first export customer for the AIM-120D."

    Source: http://alert5.com/2016/04/26/australia-cleared-to-buy-up-to-450-aim-120ds/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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