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    Royal Australian Navy (RAN): News

    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:48 pm

    Half of Australia's existing submarine fleet out of service
    03.08.2009

    One of two Australian Navy submarines out of service, reports ABC News. Submarine HMAS Collins sent for repairs to the port of Adelaide.

    Australia's Defense Ministry did not specify what exactly happened to the submarine. However, the independent organization The Australia Defence Association Neil James said that the submarine had broken down the engine when she participated in exercises in the south of the Big Australian gulf.

    45 members of the crew of the submarine to Her Majesty "Collins" (HMAS Collins) also landed on the beach in Adelaide. Most of them will have to return to base, located in western Australia, during the month. It was expected that already in 2009, renovated submarine will be able to return to the sea.

    Australia's submarine fleet consists of six submarines, but the only two of them. The remaining time is for repairs, or used only for training exercises.

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    Post  GarryB on Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:42 am

    That is actually quite a normal rotation of assets like subs or carriers.

    Russian Navy talk of 6 aircraft carriers will be based on the assumption that two should be operationally ready all the time for various duties.

    Realistically a vessel like an aircraft carrier or submarine should have a schedule that rotates it from its three primary states in operation. They are operational patrol, training, and overhaul/refit. Having three carriers or subs in this case means one sub can be training, one on operational patrols and one getting refitted/upgraded.

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    Post  Pervius on Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:17 pm

    Looking at the damage to the USS San Francisco....and this....

    Are they running into mines where somebody wants them out of?

    Is there a picture somewhere of the Aussie sub showing damages?

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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:50 pm

    I doubt it.

    There seem to be two camps in Australia... the pro sub anti air force group who think the Collins class subs are much better than F-111s in practical terms, and the anti sub group who think the Australian made subs are crap and a potent air arm is much more use.

    This article is written on behalf of the latter.

    There are of course other groups like the pro carrier group who think naval air power is the solution etc... when the F-111 was being considered an alternative was a medium range ballistic or cruise missile capability.

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    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:25 pm

    Japan ‘Determined’ to Win Australia Submarine Deal – Former Navy Chief

    A former Japanese Navy Chief said that Canberra and Tokyo were "determined" to build Australia's new submarines, the Australian Financial Review reported Thursday.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Vice Adm. Yoji Koda, who attended a naval conference in the Australian city of Adelaide, said that Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe "had a strong intent" to win the deal to replace Australia's six aging Collins-class submarines, according to the newspaper.

    On Wednesday, Australian Defense Minister Kevin Andrews said the country needed new submarines capable of operations at long range over extended periods, according to local media reports.

    Australia is looking to purchase up to 12 conventionally-powered submarines, with companies from Germany, France and Japan bidding for the 50 billion Australian dollar ($39 billion) tender, Andrews added.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/asia/20150326/1020033519.html#ixzz3VUvChOvj

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    Post  George1 on Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:31 am

    Japan Tries to Sink German Bid to Build Submarines for Australia


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    Post  max steel on Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:51 pm

    Handover of LLCs Landing Craft to the Australian Government

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    Post  George1 on Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:56 pm

    New Amphibious assault ship for Australian Navy

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    Post  max steel on Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:11 am

    The Submarine Problem - Deeper Than Meets the Eye

    It’s been said so often but never actually examined in great detail - the Future Submarine Program is strategic for Japan and Australia. In speaking to the submarine community, past and present, what comes through is that cooperation with Japan results in a Future Submarine that can approach the performances of Collins but only with a completely new design and one that will definitely not be regionally superior post 2030. This is alarming and requires pause for thought.

    The root-cause of this problem is that Japan does not have any technology that is, well, regionally superior. Indeed, it is the reverse situation - Japan’s relative submarine capability is improved by the Future Submarine Program but not Australia’s.

    The Future Submarine is strategic for Japan, but not for Australia.

    The Australian Government tells us that the next generation of RAN submarines will be regionally superior because they will have higher performances in stealth, sensors, range and endurance, and of course the US-origin combat system and weapons. With superior performances in these areas, the Future Submarine can outmatch any other submarine the RAN might conceivably fight, including the nearly silent nuclear attack submarines emerging from Russia and in the future, China. In the decades to come these submarines will hunt, and be hunted by, Australian submarines and it’s important to note that the RAN may not get to choose who to fight or when – they might choose us.

    But what if the international partner for Australia has no better technology than we already have access to? The undeniable logic is the Future Submarine will offer performances no better than the Collins Class Submarine it replaces. An ‘Australianised’ Soryu will not be regionally superior beyond 2030. This is the critical issue.

    To say it in plain English, if the Collins were to fight the Soryu today Collins would kill it every time. And there is no technology offered by Japan to suggest any evolution of the Soryu can change this situation in the future.

    None.

    In lobbying Australia to accept their submarine, Japan has disclosed enough about its own capabilities in open literature to prove this. The Soryu Class, Japan’s most modern submarine, offers no improvement over Collins in any capability area – not stealth, not sonar, not range nor endurance and not combat system or weapon. Moreover, there is no objective evidence that Japan can overcome these problems with a new design. Let's examine the case for the Soryu point by point.

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    Post  max steel on Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:37 am

    Prime Minister and Minister for Defence – Continuous Naval Shipbuilding

    The Turnbull Government is securing a sustainable long-term Australian naval shipbuilding industry. Today the Government is announcing the build locations for 12 Offshore Patrol Vessels and up to 21 Pacific Patrol Boats, in addition to nine Future Frigates previously announced.

    These announcements provide for two shipyards to implement the Government’s commitment to a continuous build of naval surface ships in Australia. Major warships will be built in Adelaide and minor vessels in Henderson, Western Australia.

    These three projects will ensure Australia retains a sovereign capability to build and sustain its naval vessels. Together they represent close to $40 billion worth of investment in Australia’s future naval capabilities and our naval shipbuilding industry.

    They will directly secure more than 2,500 jobs for decades to come. They will also generate thousands of additional jobs with suppliers.

    Offshore Patrol Vessels

    -- First pass approval for the Offshore Patrol Vessels, with construction to begin in Adelaide from 2018, following the completion of the Air Warfare Destroyers and transfer to Western Australia when the Future Frigate construction begins in Adelaide in 2020. This approach ensures that jobs and skills are retained in Adelaide.

    -- As part of the Competitive Evaluation Process three designers have been shortlisted; Damen of the Netherlands, Fassmer of Germany, and Lurssen of Germany to refine their designs.

    -- This program is estimated to be worth more than $3 billion and will create over 400 direct jobs.

    Future Frigates

    -- First pass approval for the Future Frigates. Three designers – BAE Systems with the Type 26 Frigate; Fincantieri with the FREMM Frigate, and Navantia with a redesigned F100 – have been short-listed to refine their designs. The frigates will all be built in Adelaide, incorporating the Australian-developed CEA Phased-Array Radar.

    -- The Competitive Evaluation Process is on schedule to return second pass approval in 2018, which will allow for construction to commence in Adelaide in 2020.

    -- This program is estimated to be worth more than $35 billion, and will directly create over 2000 jobs.

    Pacific Patrol Boats

    -- Combined first and second pass approval for the replacement Pacific Patrol Boats. Austal Ships Pty Ltd has been selected as the preferred tenderer to construct and maintain up to twenty-one replacement steel-hulled Pacific Patrol Boats in Henderson, Western Australia.

    -- Subject to negotiations, this program is estimated to be worth more than $500 million and will directly create over 130 jobs.

    -- Austal proposes to conduct support of the replacement Pacific Patrol Boats including deep maintenance from Cairns, Queensland. In total, through-life support and sustainment (including deep maintenance) for the Pacific Patrol Boats is valued at a further $400 million over the life of the boats.

    Today’s announcements are central to the Government’s comprehensive Naval Shipbuilding Plan. These three significant ship builds will deliver the necessary infrastructure requirements across the Adelaide and Henderson shipyards. They will create new jobs, develop necessary skills and broaden cooperation between industry and government.

    The Turnbull Government is committed to maximising the opportunities for our Australian Defence industry to participate in these shipbuilding programs. Through the Defence Industry Policy Statement the Turnbull Government will reset the relationship between Defence and industry, driving jobs and innovation which will have spillover effects into the wider economy.

    In particular, the new Centre for Defence Industry Capability will help small to medium enterprises identify opportunities to join the supply chains necessary to deliver these ambitious naval shipbuilding projects.

    After six years of Labor inaction in which more than $18 billion was ripped from the Defence budget, the Turnbull Government is getting on with the job of securing our long-term national security and economic prosperity. The Government’s historic continuous build program will ensure the Navy receives its future capability requirements while delivering the certainty that shipbuilders need.

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    Re: Royal Australian Navy (RAN): News

    Post  Militarov on Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:43 pm



    Future Australian subs

    "The Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull this morning named France as the winner of the $50 billion submarine bid, pipping Germany and Japan to build the next generation of submarines for the Royal Australian Navy, reported theaustralian.com.au.

    The French shipbuilding giant DCNS has sold smaller submarines to India, Malaysia, Chile and Brazil, but its chairman and CEO said that only Australia is being offered advanced sonar and stealth technology similar to systems on French nuclear missile submarines.

    DCNS is a state-controlled company that is one of Europe’s largest defense firms, building submarines, destroyers and aircraft carriers. The Japanese government wants Australia to explain why it decided not to pick a Japanese design for a new fleet of submarines, choosing instead a proposal from France’s DCNS.

    “The decision was deeply regrettable,” said Japan Defence Minister Gen Nakatani. “We will ask Australia to explain why they didn’t pick our design.” Australian officials informed Japan of its choice on Monday, explaining that the French design best fitted its unique needs, Nakatani said.

    The Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull this morning named France as the winner of the $50 billion submarine bid, pipping Germany and Japan to build the next generation of submarines for the Royal Australian Navy."


    Source: http://defence-blog.com/news/france-wins-50bn-contract-for-a-new-australian-fleet-of-submarines.html

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    Post  max steel on Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:56 pm

    Australian government body criticises domestic submarine build plan


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    Post  airstrike on Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:25 pm

    Australian army to receive new electronic surveillance system

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