Vietnamese People's Airforce

George1 wrote:Long range Vietnamese UAV

"Academy of Science and Technology of Vietnam in conjunction with the Ministry of Public Security has successfully developed unmanned aircraft HS-6L which could fly 4.000km . According to information from the Academy of Science and Technology, unmanned aerial vehicle HS-6L is a collaborative project with the Ministry of Public Security of Vietnam, complete prototype fabrication to date 01/11/2015. On the occasion of Academician Professor Gusakov, Chairman of the Academy of Sciences of Belarus and Belarusian delegation to visit and work at the Vietnam Academy of Science and Technology, the Institute has launched the electronic reconnaissance aircraft unmanned long-range and implementing the flight test program.

Assoc. Dr. Pham Ngoc Lang, Chairman of the research project, said Vietnam has enough ability to manufacture unmanned aerial vehicle range to serve the cause of economic development and social-security contribution Organization country. According to Vietnam, the unmanned aerial vehicle HS-6L has a wingspan of 22m, equipped with Rotax 914 engine for its range cruise to 4.000km, continuous operating time of 35 hours, using satellite navigation systems . HS-6L capable of carrying reconnaissance camera, radar. Estimated flight test program unmanned aerial vehicle HS-6L will take place on the South China Sea in QII / 2016."



Source: http://defence-blog.com/news/vietnam-successfully-made-long-range-uav.html

Su-30 fighters fly over Nanwei Island in South China sea.

"According to Reuters, Vietnam has already carried out preliminary negotiations with the Swedish group Saab and Dassault of France to purchase at least 12 fighters.

In the news release dated 04/22/2016, Reuters (UK), said that because the Chinese increasingly assertive actions in the South China Sea, to the South East Asian countries will speed up efforts replacement of the outdated fighters and paves the way for multi-billion dollar transactions for corporations benefit large weapons production.

According to Reuters, although defense budgets of countries in Southeast Asia is quite tight, but they are extremely “busy shopping” after a period of 5 years of lull. Reliable sources from the defense industry and close to the government said that in the coming months may witness a multi-billion dollar transactions from Malaysia and Vietnam.

At arms exhibition to be held in Kuala Lumpur this week will attract many buyers and arms suppliers such as Russia, France, Britain, China, Pakistan and the United States. This event is held every two years, the participants are expected to “noisy” than ever. Several unnamed sources said, Vietnam has carried out preliminary negotiations with the Swedish group Saab and Dassault of France to plan the procurement of at least 12 fighters. This information leaks from officials in the defense industry and a separate source familiar with the negotiations in the government said.

Sources from the defense industry, said Vietnam is negotiating with Moscow to equip several Su-35 fighters. Meanwhile the group’s official arms exporter Rosoboronexport refused to comment on any negotiations with Vietnam. Vietnam officials rarely comment on the issue of armament procurement, and gives no comment on the question of Reuters."

Source: http://defence-blog.com/news/vietnam-in-talk-to-purchase-about-12-gripen-or-rafale-fighter.html

"Vietnam will buy at least two early-warning aircraft C-295 AEW&C to enhance the ability to control the South China Sea airspace.

World media simultaneously reported that Vietnam will buy at least 2 aircraft early warning and control air C-295 AEW&C to enhance the ability to control airspace East Sea and provide information reconnaissance, early warning control service of the sky, ready to fight.

This is not without basis when multiple signals recently that Vietnam will likely favor buying the aircraft.

Military experts said that the C-295 AEW&C is now very necessary for Vietnam.

*The Airbus Military C-295 AEW&C is an Airborne Early Warning and Command (AEW&C) aircraft fitted an advanced rotodome radar system derived from the C-295 military transport airplane. The six-meter diameter rotodome was developed by Airbus Military. The production system would be a fast-rotating device housing a state-of-the-art radar providing full 360-degree and continuous coverage of a selected area. The Fully Integrated Tactical System (FITS) enables the integration of on-board sensors, including operation and monitoring of the radar system and display of the aerial picture. The C-295 AEW&C performed its maiden flight in Seville (Spain) on June 7, 2011."

Source: http://defence-blog.com/news/vietnam-will-buy-at-least-two-early-warning-aircraft-c-295-aewc.html

Vietnam Seeks F-16 Jets, Joint Ventures With US in Growing Relationship


I dont get it, why seek these kind of purchases and partnership with the US when they could have done the same thing with Russia in the first place? also Vietnam wants to buy F-16s when they can get Su-35s or Mig-35s from Russia?? I dont think this is a wise move

Project Canada wrote:
Vietnam Seeks F-16 Jets, Joint Ventures With US in Growing Relationship


I dont get it, why seek these kind of purchases and partnership with the US when they could have done the same thing with Russia in the first place? also Vietnam wants to buy F-16s when they can get Su-35s or Mig-35s from Russia?? I dont think this is a wise move

A little diversification, and to gain a powerful ally against China.

Remember that Russia and China have been building ever closer relations, and the Sino-Vietnamese conflict in 1979 (?) showed the Vietnamese that ultimately the USSR would not be prepared to sacrifice for it.

"Vietnam builds capacity of maintenance and overhaul line for Su-27 and Su-30 without sending it to abroad.

Vietnam officially inaugurates a maintenance line in Da Nang’s «Factory A32» of the Department of Techniques of the Air Defence and Air Force Service for Su-27 and Su-30 fighters.

Other countries have had real problems waiting for Russian support, so moving more of that support in-country will boost the fighter fleet’s availability.



To date, Vietnam has ordered and received 12 of Su-27 aircraft. In 2004, it also acquired 4 modified variants of the Su-30 MK2V, newer models of the Su-27. In May 2009, they inked a deal to procure additional 12 aircraft from the Russians to bolster their ageing fleet."

Source: http://defence-blog.com/news/vietnam-broadening-its-repair-capabilities-su-27-fighter-aircrafts.html

flamming_python wrote:

Project Canada wrote:
Vietnam Seeks F-16 Jets, Joint Ventures With US in Growing Relationship


I dont get it, why seek these kind of purchases and partnership with the US when they could have done the same thing with Russia in the first place? also Vietnam wants to buy F-16s when they can get Su-35s or Mig-35s from Russia?? I dont think this is a wise move

A little diversification, and to gain a powerful ally against China.

Remember that Russia and China have been building ever closer relations, and the Sino-Vietnamese conflict in 1979 (?) showed the Vietnamese that ultimately the USSR would not be prepared to sacrifice for it.

Say what, they were hardly friends (Russia and China) at the time, the Chinese had nukes and made it clear that they weren't shy about using them, going so far as to threaten all out war with the Soviets if they intervened, say what you want, but no one is stupid enough to get got in a nuclear exchange from 2 fronts (China and NATO), Soviets still did what they could with respect to supplies, training, intelligence and even troops to keep the majority of Chinese forces tied up.
The part about "the Soviet refusing to defend there ally" sounds like otter horse sh#t written by someone like Brzezinski for being pissed that the Soviets didn't fall for it or Chinese propagandist desperately looking for some sort of victory, Carter played that fool Deng like a goddamn violin.

Vietnamese Fighter Jet Missing in the South China Sea

A Sukhoi Su-30 MK2 went missing.

max steel wrote:Vietnamese Fighter Jet Missing in the South China Sea

A Sukhoi Su-30 MK2 went missing.

Let hope this wasn't part of Vietnam "asserting" themselves over there.
I don't think PRC would give Vietnamese planes the same treatment as the US Poseidons or B-52s.

KiloGolf wrote:

max steel wrote:Vietnamese Fighter Jet Missing in the South China Sea

A Sukhoi Su-30 MK2 went missing.

Let hope this wasn't part of Vietnam "asserting" themselves over there.
I don't think PRC would give Vietnamese planes the same treatment as the US Poseidons or B-52s.

Vietnamese coastguard plane, which was searching for a missing fighter jet and its pilot, disappeared off the radar on Thursday, local media and a military official said, the second such setback in three days.
The CASA C212 plane carrying nine people went missing off the northern town of Hai Phong about noon local time, local media reported, citing military and provincial sources.

The coastguard plane was joining thousands of people looking for a pilot who went missing with a Sukhoi SU-30 MK2 fighter jet on Tuesday along the central part of the country coastline.

max steel wrote:

KiloGolf wrote:

max steel wrote:Vietnamese Fighter Jet Missing in the South China Sea

A Sukhoi Su-30 MK2 went missing.

Let hope this wasn't part of Vietnam "asserting" themselves over there.
I don't think PRC would give Vietnamese planes the same treatment as the US Poseidons or B-52s.

Vietnamese coastguard plane, which was searching for a missing fighter jet and its pilot, disappeared off the radar on Thursday, local media and a military official said, the second such setback in three days.
The CASA C212 plane carrying nine people went missing off the northern town of Hai Phong about noon local time, local media reported, citing military and provincial sources.

The coastguard plane was joining thousands of people looking for a pilot who went missing with a Sukhoi SU-30 MK2 fighter jet on Tuesday along the central part of the country coastline.

My bet is they're getting blown out of the sky.
At that rate in a few months the will have no air assets.

I do not think Vietnam will buy F-16. Considering the cost-effectiveness and compatibility with local facilities, the chance for F-16 to make an apperance in PAVN inventory is zero.

It is just the opinion of a foreign "expert" about Vietnam. I personally disbelieve in such opinions. I have read many wild claims about "Vietnam may buy F-16/Mirage/Gripen/......." in media, including Vietnamese media. But none of them materialized.

By far, most of our Western weapons are either war trophies or are supplied by Israel.

Long story in short: a Vietnamese Su-30MK2 was downed by accident. One of the pilots was safely rescued.

However, during the process of rescue, a CASA aircraft was missed. Rescue team lost contact with that CASA at Bạch Long Vỹ (Hải Phòng), and the whereabout of that CASA is unknown.

People has just recovered some fragments from CASA aircraft.

news.zing.vn/may-bay-casa-cho-9-nguoi-mat-lien-lac-khi-dang-tim-su-30-post658404.html

http://vnexpress.net/tin-tuc/thoi-su/may-bay-casa-roi-khi-ha-do-cao-do-thoi-tiet-xau-3421288.html

People just recover some fragments of the CASA. They suspected that CASA met its fate when trying to decrease its altitude in bad weather.

The fate of 9 crews are unknown.

http://vnexpress.net/tin-tuc/thoi-su/may-bay-casa-roi-khi-ha-do-cao-do-thoi-tiet-xau-3421288.html

Terrible news and bad luck. Wishing for the best.

My thanks for all your condolences.

RIP to those heroes that may have given their lives to try to save the missing pilot...

Tks for your condolences.

BTW, a regional newspaper said that the second Su-30 pilot was dead. His body is said to be found drifting on the sea, at Nghệ An province.

http://baonghean.vn/quoc-phong/201606/nong-ngu-dan-nghe-an-phat-hien-phi-cong-su30-tran-quang-khai-tren-bien-2706097/index.htm

Personally I think, I will need more sources to confirm this news.

Edit: other well-known newspapers also posted this news. So, probably, it is confirmed that the second pilot was killed in the accident.

http://thanhnien.vn/thoi-su/tim-thay-thi-the-phi-cong-tran-quang-khai-714640.html
http://vnexpress.net/tin-tuc/thoi-su/phat-hien-thi-the-quan-vai-du-tren-bien-thanh-hoa-3421867.html

The deceased Su-30 pilot is Senior Colonel Trần Quang Khải, Chief of Staff and Vice Commander of 923rd Air Regiment of 371st Air Division.

The rescued pilot is Colonel Nguyễn Hữu Cường.

higurashihougi wrote:Long story in short: a Vietnamese Su-30MK2 was downed by accident. One of the pilots was safely rescued.

However, during the process of rescue, a CASA aircraft was missed. Rescue team lost contact with that CASA at Bạch Long Vỹ (Hải Phòng), and the whereabout of that CASA is unknown.

People has just recovered some fragments from CASA aircraft.

news.zing.vn/may-bay-casa-cho-9-nguoi-mat-lien-lac-khi-dang-tim-su-30-post658404.html

http://vnexpress.net/tin-tuc/thoi-su/may-bay-casa-roi-khi-ha-do-cao-do-thoi-tiet-xau-3421288.html

RIP to the crews. What happened to Su-30MK2? Downed by accident could be understood as shot down by accident.

medo wrote:RIP to the crews. What happened to Su-30MK2? Downed by accident could be understood as shot down by accident.

I don't know yet. But I think 99% is NOT shooting down.