Russia and other developments in Hypersonic Research

kvs wrote:Sure, Russia is behind because Americans claim to be launching some tests with all sorts of propulsion concepts.  

Credulous much?

If it was so easy for the yanquis, and they really did have all of this ubber-tech just lying around, then what accounts for
their total lack of preparation for Russian hypersonic systems?   You can be tired of the truth, but that only says something
about your level and not reality.

kvs wrote:A board game is not reality.   Reality has vastly more degrees of freedom than any board game.  And it is the ultimate challenge for any
neural network to map those degrees of freedom.    So examples of Chess and Go neural network engines are utterly irrelevant to real
world missile operation.

GarryB wrote:
I remember in the 1980s the Germans were working on an AI programme to automatically detect an armoured vehicle..

In one fell swoop: Russia is developing weapons against hypersonic missiles

MiG-31 interceptor will be equipped with new ultra-long-ran

Russia is not only developing hypersonic weapons, but also creating means of protection against them. As sources in the military-industrial complex told Izvestia, domestic engineers are now designing an ultra-long-range air-based missile capable of intercepting high-speed and maneuvering targets. According to experts, this work is extremely relevant today: the Pentagon has already announced plans to test four new hypersonic munitions in 2020. And the day before, US President Donald Trump said that Americans already have super-fast missiles that can move 5-7 times faster than conventional ones. The novelty will also come in handy for the fight against modern aircraft and cruise missiles. Today, only our country has hypersonic weapons, but many foreign countries are actively engaged in their creation.

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Long-range interception
The Ministry of Defense made a fundamental decision to develop for the MiG-31 fighter and the promising MiG-41 multifunctional long-range interceptor missile system (MPKR DP), capable of hitting hypersonic ammunition. According to Izvestia sources familiar with the situation, theoretical studies have already been carried out on an ultra-long-range air-to-air missile with a multiple warhead. Now determine the characteristics and composition of the complex. According to Izvestia, one of the candidates for the role of submunition (head blocks) is a promising medium-range missile K-77M.

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The complex under development is one of the options for such protection. Airborne heavy ammunition will deliver a warhead with several modern air-to-air missiles over a distance of several hundred kilometers. Then they will separate from the carrier and begin to search and attack targets on their own. An active homing head with its own radar will help them in this.

Such a system makes it possible to destroy objects at long range, said military expert Dmitry Kornev. This is necessary, for example, in order to hit the carrier before it launches its missiles.

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“ An ordinary anti-aircraft missile has one warhead,” he told Izvestia. - The probability of a miss on a hypersonic maneuvering target is very high. But if one ammunition carries several homing shells, then the chances of hitting a high-speed object are significantly increased.

According to the expert, in the case of firing IFRK DP at hypersonic targets, all warheads will be displayed at a pre-calculated point on the trajectory of a flying munition and attack it in the forehead. The use of ultra-long-range missiles will expand the area of ​​destruction of the interceptor.

Especially effective is the use of the complex during aircraft operations as part of a single information space. Aerial targets, cruise or hypersonic missiles can be detected by ground-based radars, early warning radars, or an attack warning system. The fighter will only need to launch an ultra-long-range missile in the desired area. At the same time, the interceptor will not have to risk it himself, entering into an air battle.

GarryB wrote:I made such a suggesting a while ago on this forum... imagine a cruise missile whose front section consists of half a dozen AAMs with lock on after launch guidance systems...

Arrow wrote:https://news.usni.org/2020/02/18/navy-confirms-global-strike-hypersonic-weapon-will-first-deploy-on-virginia-attack-subs?fbclid=IwAR1DeHwKJeM4GJDoBp78HZNqC7IB1oB4DkP7nqx4oH0nYLhFRaMFMnEHP5qE

Do Virginia will be carry hypersonic missile.

The US is quickly catching up with Russia in hypersonic technologies

Arrow wrote:The US is quickly catching up with Russia in hypersonic technologies

Arrow wrote:https://news.usni.org/2020/02/18/navy-confirms-global-strike-hypersonic-weapon-will-first-deploy-on-virginia-attack-subs?fbclid=IwAR1DeHwKJeM4GJDoBp78HZNqC7IB1oB4DkP7nqx4oH0nYLhFRaMFMnEHP5qE

Do Virginia will be carry hypersonic missile.

The US is quickly catching up with Russia in hypersonic technologies

PapaDragon wrote:
You were saying that that hypersonic missiles aren't a big deal and that USA is already ahead

What changed?

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Thomas C. Moore is a senior fellow and deputy director of the Proliferation Prevention Program at CSIS. Mr. Moore served as senior professional staff member at the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations from 2003 to 2013, where he held responsibility for arms control, arms sales, and nonproliferation matters. Prior to working on the Foreign Relations Committee, he was staff assistant to the Subcommittee on Strategic Forces of the Senate Armed Services Committee and an intern with the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations.

On the Foreign Relations Committee, Mr. Moore was the lead professional staff member for the Moscow Treaty; the U.S.-IAEA Additional Protocol, and its implementing statute; the Convention on Supplementary Compensation for Nuclear Damage, and its implementing statute; agreements for peaceful nuclear cooperation under section 123 of the Atomic Energy Act with India, the United Arab Emirates, Russia, Turkey, and several other nations; major U.S. arms sales and transfers; U.S. defense trade treaties with the United Kingdom and Australia, and their implementing statutes; and the New START Treaty. Mr. Moore accompanied former senator Richard G. Lugar on many trips throughout Russia and the former Soviet Union while on the Foreign Relations Committee staff.

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kvs wrote:Excellent find!

This is further evidence of the rot in the NATzO elites.   They drink their own piss-fermented koolaid and relish the taste.

Racist, chauvinist cunts who dismiss Russian "untermenschen" like Napoleon and Hitler.    They never learn.

BTW, in case it is not clear, Sarmat and Avantgarde are revolutions in ICBM technology.   Multiple maneuvering glider
warheads that can reach their target no matter which way the ICBM is launched.   So Russia can glass yanqui-stan over
the South Pole.   The yanquis will never be prepared to defend from attacks coming over the Gulf of Mexico.   That is
because none of their Aegis ships will have interceptors that can engage Avantgard gliders above 100 km.   The Avantgarde
can fully evade any interceptor complex by horizontally maneuvering thousands of kilometers at hypersonic speeds and
can do a deep dive attack on the target instead of following a gradually descending ballistic trajectory.

Insecure, pathologically projecting their insecurities and inferiorities onto others, western trash can only trash talk in the
face of such actual superiority.   They have been weened from birth to think of themselves as exceptional and ubermenschen.
In reality they are mediocre European rejects from the gene pool that could not succeed in Europe.  (No more PC pussyfooting).

As an example of yanqui exceptional superiority consider the deployment of its ABM system to Poland.   It was supposed to
be up in 2018.  Then got delayed by 2 years.  Now it has been delayed for a another 2 years.    That is a 4 year delay to
deploy a missile system already sitting in storage.   And these clowns snark about Russian "failure".    

miketheterrible wrote:

kvs wrote:Excellent find!

This is further evidence of the rot in the NATzO elites.   They drink their own piss-fermented koolaid and relish the taste.

Racist, chauvinist cunts who dismiss Russian "untermenschen" like Napoleon and Hitler.    They never learn.

BTW, in case it is not clear, Sarmat and Avantgarde are revolutions in ICBM technology.   Multiple maneuvering glider
warheads that can reach their target no matter which way the ICBM is launched.   So Russia can glass yanqui-stan over
the South Pole.   The yanquis will never be prepared to defend from attacks coming over the Gulf of Mexico.   That is
because none of their Aegis ships will have interceptors that can engage Avantgard gliders above 100 km.   The Avantgarde
can fully evade any interceptor complex by horizontally maneuvering thousands of kilometers at hypersonic speeds and
can do a deep dive attack on the target instead of following a gradually descending ballistic trajectory.

Insecure, pathologically projecting their insecurities and inferiorities onto others, western trash can only trash talk in the
face of such actual superiority.   They have been weened from birth to think of themselves as exceptional and ubermenschen.
In reality they are mediocre European rejects from the gene pool that could not succeed in Europe.  (No more PC pussyfooting).

As an example of yanqui exceptional superiority consider the deployment of its ABM system to Poland.   It was supposed to
be up in 2018.  Then got delayed by 2 years.  Now it has been delayed for a another 2 years.    That is a 4 year delay to
deploy a missile system already sitting in storage.   And these clowns snark about Russian "failure".    

Lets not forget that their only Nuclear systems are Trident and Minuteman.  And they aren't planning to replace those till at least a decade and half from now.

Hole wrote:But I´m pretty sure he thinks it is a brilliant idea to sink a few billion bucks into "modernising" a 50 year old nuclear bomb, like his country is doing now. Because a HGV is just like a Trabi, but an F-35 will have no problems to fly close to a target to drop a f...ing bomb.