Russia and other developments in Hypersonic Research

kvs wrote:

George1 wrote:US starts development of advanced prompt global strike systems - Russian Defense Ministry

"When not equipped with nuclear weapons, these systems are meant to carry out the same tasks as the strategic nuclear forces," a spokesman said

UNITED NATIONS, October 13. /TASS/. The Pentagon has started to develop advanced prompt global strike systems capable of carrying out the same tasks as the nuclear forces, Russian Defense Ministry Spokesman Alexander Yemelyanov said at a Russian-Chinese briefing on missile defense, held on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly First Committee’s meeting on Thursday.

"While implementing the concept of shared use of offensive and defensive weapons, the Pentagon has started to develop advanced prompt global strike systems," Yemelyanov said. "When not equipped with nuclear weapons, these systems are meant to carry out the same tasks as the strategic nuclear forces," he added.

He also said that there was a clear link between the US plans to establish its global ABM system and the development of prompt global strike systems. "If a strike is delivered on the Russian and Chinese strategic nuclear forces’ facilities, the efficiency of the US ABM system will improve," the Russian Defense Ministry’s spokesman said.

"So the development of prompt global strike systems once again proves Washington’s wish to ruin the current balance of power and ensure the US global strategic dominance," Yemelyanov noted.

He added that the United States had been stepping up its missile defense capabilities to gain a strategic advantage by getting an opportunity to use nuclear weapons "at minimal cost.".


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http://tass.com/defense/970393

Russia would have to be grossly negligent if it would allow this American BS (yes it is basically a show off process) to gain the US
any advantage over its nuclear forces.    We are dealing with the first strike scenario.   Americans think if they shoot first, like some
wild west gunslinger they "win".   If Russia can properly react to a first strike attempt using ICBMs it has no excuse to not be able to
respond to prompt global strike.

Big_Gazza wrote:
I like the idea of a handful of Sarmat with precision guided HGVs.  Fit them with air brakes so they can drop their terminal attack speed to a sufficiently low value that they can effectively use Glonass to achieve CEP of a few meters.  They won't be very cost effective but their main purpose is to show the Russian cock is bigger, longer, thicker, harder, stronger and more energetic than its puny Murican equivalent...  

This new Sarmatian heavy missile has been assigned the not just the standard MIRV/ICBM tasks "but also the delivery of warheads and strike a variety of ways, including through the delivery units South Pole" according to Russian Academy of Missile and Artillery Sciences, Former head of the 4th. Central Research Institute of the Defense Ministry, Major General Vladimir Vasilenko on or about February 27, 2014 and again March 17, 2014. To achieve such a southern variant reentry would require a FOBS (fractional orbital bombardment systems operation) operational capability that is much more precise than previous SS-9 based R-36-0 testing demonstrated in the 1960-1970s. In fact if this is correct some of the existing SS-18's may in fact already be assigned FOBS operational capability though this remains uncertain.

OMAHA (Sputnik) — Hypersonic weapons should be under international norms and rules, UK's Head of Nuclear Operations for the Director General Nuclear, Commodore Paul Burke, told Sputnik.
"Any weapons system should actually commit to some international norms and some regulations, absolutely," Burke stated on the margins of the STRATCOM Deterrence Symposium in Nebraska on Wednesday. "It should definitely be under some international regulations."

Paul Burke also noted that London is following Russia developing hypersonic aviation means of destruction yet is not capable of developing their own system.

"We watch what Russia is doing, absolutely. We’ll keep an eye on what we’re doing and trying to respond accordingly usually through diplomatic, international norms and treaty obligations," Burke said. "The UK wouldn’t be able to do anything like that. So, we wouldn't be able to develop that sort of system ourselves."

Key Findings

[*]New Class of Threat

Hypersonic missiles are a new class of threat because they are capable both of maneuvering and of flying faster than 5,000 kilometers per hour, which would enable such missiles to penetrate most missile defenses and to further compress the timelines for response by a nation under attack.

The proliferation of such missiles beyond the United States, Russia, and China could result in other powers compressing their response timelines in ways that set their strategic forces on hair-trigger states of readiness — such as a strategy of "launch on warning." And such proliferation could enable such states to more credibly threaten attacks on major powers.

There is probably less than a decade available to substantially hinder the potential proliferation of hypersonic missiles and associated technologies.
There appears to be interest in hypersonic missile nonproliferation and at least a few years available for relevant governments to put a policy in place.


International Concern

The unavoidable requirement is for the United States, Russia, and China to agree on a nonproliferation policy.
France could play a key role in bringing other governments into agreement on a broader control policy.
The technical and economic barriers to developing hypersonic technology are great enough to add to the effectiveness of a nonproliferation policy.



Recommendations
A two-tiered approach to containing the spread of hypersonic systems and components appears to be the most promising.
First, we recommend a policy of export denial for complete hypersonic delivery vehicles and enough major subsystems to effectively provide access to complete hypersonic missiles.

Second, given dual-use concerns, we also recommend a policy of case-by-case export reviews for scramjets and other hypersonic engines and components, fuels for hypersonic use, sensors, navigation, and communication items for hypersonic flight, hypersonic flight controls, design tools and modeling for such uses, and ground simulation and testing for hypersonic systems.

The necessary first step is for the United States, Russia, and China to agree not to export complete hypersonic missiles or their major subsystems. Beyond that, the control list recommended in this report can be the basis for international discussions.[/b]

PapaDragon wrote:

...The necessary first step is for the United States, Russia, and China to agree not to export complete hypersonic missiles or their major subsystems. 

Oh I can already see how this would work. Just like nukes: no export but there will be some kind of "hypersonic sharing" inside NATO while Russia and China would have to adhere to rules.

Fucks that crap, I say hypersonic vehicles for everyone who can pay or make, it will be next step towards lasting and stable world peace.

Hypersonic speeds missiles have long mastered. The combat parts of our strategic missiles fly on hypersound on the final flight trajectory. The work goes on creating engines that can work for a long time on modes that repeatedly exceed the speed of sound.

To hypersonic speed is the one that exceeds the sound one five times. It is measured in the Mach (M). So, the warheads of the "Topols" and "Yars" before the final impact reach the speed of 25M - they can not be destroyed by any anti-missiles.
Lately, much has been said about the work on hypersonic rockets, and only in the future and as something very difficult.

The developer of domestic missiles for mobile land complexes Yuri Solomonov believes that there is a confusion of concepts. By itself, the hypersonic speed has long been achieved and something insurmountable is not. And now in the US, China and Russia, they are trying to create a hypersonic ramjet-propelled jet engine - the GPVRD. Its feature, in addition to the development of a huge speed, is the absence of an oxidizer on board. Only fuel. The oxidizing agent must be atmospheric oxygen. A rocket with such an engine part of the trajectory flies in the atmosphere, part in the cosmic airless space. It must be managed and maneuvered. With the advent of such missiles, a completely new type of weapon will be created - hypersonic aeroballistic systems.

Technologically, this is a very difficult task. It is not worth waiting for the rapid emergence of serial missiles from the GVRM. But work in this direction is on the increase. Who will be their first owner?

https://rg.ru/2017/12/02/ssha-knr-i-rf-pytaiutsia-sozdat-giperzvukovoj-vozdushno-reaktivnyj-dvigatel.html

kvs wrote:

Scramjets would allow a saving in fuel weight (no oxidizer) as noted in the article.   The hypersonic regime of a scramjet is not confined
to super velocities.    If jets can fly above the speed of sound a few km above the surface, then so can scramjets.   The cost is the
design of the intake-combustion-outflow manifold since it must achieve combustion are relatively low speeds.   As the speed of the
object the scramjet increases, the shape of this manifold requires change as well.   This is actually a major limitation of scramjets; they
are stuck in a particular regime via their geometry.   Until some variable geometry scramjet is designed, it will not be able to operate
at all altitudes and speeds.

Roscosmos' Research Center's Staff Suspected of Leaking Data Abroad – Source
MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Employees of Russia's Central Research Institute of Machine Building (TsNIIMash), a rocket and spacecraft scientific center at the Roscosmos space corporation, are main suspects in the high treason case, a source familiar with the investigation told Sputnik.

"Most searches are carried out at the TsNIIMash. A number of employees of the enterprise and their offices are being searched by investigators and security agencies," the source said.

According to the sources, TsNIIMash Head Dmitry Paison had no access to secret information and is seen by investigators as a person who "might have known about the situation."

Earlier in the day, the Kommersant newspaper reported that Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB) officers had carried searches in offices of a number of TsNIIMash employees as part of the investigation into the high treason case. According to the media outlet, "dozens of people" are suspected of working for foreign intelligence and "leaking" top secret designs in the area of hypersonic devices.