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    Post  GarryB on Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:38 am

    Interesting vid... the next one after that shows a whole lot of rednecks driving huge utes with big tires and enormous engines through a trench filled with mud and water. The Sherp is almost cheating as it is amphibious, but then those American vehicles are supposed to be designed to operate in that terrain... hense they are testing them.

    American vehicles are all noise and fuel consumption and tires and seem to get stuck really quick, while the Russian just floats right across... the commentators and those that comment below complain that amphibious vehicles are cheating, but it seems to me an amphibious vehicle is the obvious choice to defeat the obstacle.

    Seems to me they picked the wrong sort of test for their vehicles... and the guy who won took a gun to a knife fight... ironic really as the US military tend to take star destroyers to conkers fights anyway...
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:26 am

    GarryB wrote:Interesting vid... the next one after that shows a whole lot of rednecks driving huge utes with big tires and enormous engines through a trench filled with mud and water. The Sherp is almost cheating as it is amphibious, but then those American vehicles are supposed to be designed to operate in that terrain... hense they are testing them.

    American vehicles are all noise and fuel consumption and tires and seem to get stuck really quick, while the Russian just floats right across... the commentators and those that comment below complain that amphibious vehicles are cheating, but it seems to me an amphibious vehicle is the obvious choice to defeat the obstacle.

    Seems to me they picked the wrong sort of test for their vehicles... and the guy who won took a gun to a knife fight... ironic really as the US military tend to take star destroyers to conkers fights anyway...

    No those Trucks aren't those are homemade modifications, This is the thing in the US you take some truck, do something silly with it and run it through a mad made mud hole, the winner can get like 50K etc. Also wouldn't consider these guys rednecks, just people interested in cars testing out their creations.

    I think sherps aren't allowed in these mostly since they aren't modified by their original design.

    The guys doing these mods aren't professionals, they are just dudes in their garage wanting to have a good time, you are taking something out of context.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:32 am

    The Pentagon collects data on the Russian Arctic
    https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2676812.html
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:18 pm

    China goes North Beijing's Arctic ambitions officially recognized
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:19 am

    Also wouldn't consider these guys rednecks,

    I suspect our definitions of rednecks is different... I don't see it as derogatory... it describes people who work outside for a living like farmers etc etc.

    People who shower before they go to bed, as opposed to people who shower when they get up in the morning to go to work...
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    Post  Hole on Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:53 pm

    A redneck is a guy that asks: "Shower? What´s a shower?" Laughing
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:37 am

    OK, so that is a different guy to what I was talking about.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:39 am

    With Tu-95/142/160s, Su-34s, IL-78s, A50/100s + OPVs, subs, & ice breakers, the Arctic can be patrolled & exclusion rules enforced from any suitable/corresponding base in the RF, making it a de-facto Russian lake: http://www.russiadefence.net/t1229p850-tu-160-and-tu-95ms-blackjack-and-bears#262822
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:40 am

    Trump has asked aides if it's possible to buy Greenland, sources say

    I was expecting it; if that happens, the US will get more Arctic & N. Atlantic coastlines & will claim more continental shelf. Access to natural resources there will diminish adventurism & interventions overseas.
    China can forget about developing Greenland- the US won't allow it.
    https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2692531.html

    https://ria.ru/20190818/1557599210.html

    https://lenta.ru/news/2019/08/19/taki_da/

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/donald-trump-greenland-white-house

    With it under the US flag, the NW passage claimed by Canada will be better controlled; the US will argue that Alaska & Greenland must have a secure SLOC between them. Eventually, the US may take over the Canadian Arctic Archipelago as well.
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    https://time.com/5653894/trump-greenland-history/

    https://russian.rt.com/world/article/659857-alyaska-ssha-rossiya-arktika

    http://nvo.ng.ru/nvo/2019-08-17/100_grenland.html?print=Y


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    Post  owais.usmani on Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:10 am

    https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/industry-and-energy/2019/08/its-time-russia-reshape-plans-arctic-shelf-says-deputy-premier

    It’s time for Russia to reshape plans for Arctic shelf, says Deputy Premier

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:49 pm

    Greenland row is ‘signal to China, Russia’
    Trump girding up for battle for control of the Arctic, expert says
    https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/08/article/greenland-row-is-signal-to-china-russia/
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    Post  kvs on Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:57 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:Greenland row is ‘signal to China, Russia’
    Trump girding up for battle for control of the Arctic, expert says
    https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/08/article/greenland-row-is-signal-to-china-russia/

    How is Greenland going to allow the yanquis to control the Arctic? Aside for some minor oil and gas deposits there is
    not way that the North-East passage hugging the Russian coast can be controlled from Greenland. May as well use Alaska
    for that.

    Stationing ABM systems in Greenland is an additional bonus for the yanquis, but this would be exo-atmospheric interception
    and would have nothing to do with controlling the Arctic.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:46 pm

    Denmark claims that the shelf area around the North Pole is connected to her Greenland. If the island becomes a US territory, it will enable the latter to claim the shelf at least close/up to the North Pole.
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    The US & Russia will then end up dividing the Arctic Ocean, so no1 country can call it its lake, & Eurasia is encircled with US bases.


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    Post  kvs on Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:00 am

    Russia never claimed any area surrounding the North Pole. By fair division it only claimed shelf extension that terminated at the North Pole
    in sectors. The Arctic Sea was never going to be like the Sea of Okhotsk so it does not make any difference if the US owns Greenland or
    not. It has all the naval bases it needs. It also already uses Greenland to host its early warning radar in Thule.



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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:17 am

    The US corporations want a free reign in resource rich Greenland; the Pentagon wants to have a better position in the Arctic & prevent China from getting any foothold there- she bailed out Iceland just a few years ago. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/21/heres-why-trump-wants-to-buy-greenland.html

    Besides, owning Greenland will put more pressure on Ottawa to open up its NW Passage that US insists is an international strait, otherwise the Canadian Inuits may later decide in a US sponsored referendum to join their Alaskan & Greenlandic brothers under the American flag. Canada can't even afford the navy that can patrol there.


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    Post  GarryB on Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:08 am

    There are rare earth minerals in Greenland supposedly that the US wants, so part of the plan will involve strip mining...

    The huge irony is that the US probably has more claim to the arctic than the antarctic, which they do anyway...

    They will need to expand their ice breaker fleet of course.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:14 pm

    The huge irony is that the US probably has more claim to the arctic than the antarctic, which they do anyway...
    the US has no formal Antarctic claims like some others have, only scientific stations at McMurdo & the Amundsen–Scott S. Pole.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMurdo_Station

    Its central location + the UK, French, Australian & NZ claims can later be used against other claimants.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/08/22/753192368/fact-check-did-harry-truman-really-try-to-buy-greenland-back-in-the-day
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:41 pm

    The battle for Greenland is entering a new phase: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2701842.html

    Once the US gets it, they'll be only 290 km, 180 mi from Iceland, also former Danish colony & a European Nordic country.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceland#Geography
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    https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/08/opinion/trump-greenland-and-the-china-threat/

    In Greenland, a deputy called on fellow citizens to consider the idea of ​​selling the island
    https://rg.ru/2019/08/31/v-grenlandii-deputat-prizval-sograzhdan-rassmotret-ideiu-prodazhi-ostrova.html


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    Post  owais.usmani on Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:49 am

    https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/arctic-industry-and-energy/2019/09/india-looks-towards-russian-arctic

    India looks towards Russian Arctic

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:35 am

    1 day they may build an icebreaker for research in the Arctic & the Antarctic. https://zeenews.india.com/news/eco-news/india-to-acquire-icebreaker-for-polar-exploration_852366.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himadri_Station

    ‘Snow Dragon 2’ poised for maiden voyage
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Yesterday at 9:27 pm

    How Trump will try to bend the Danes and bring down the dollar

    https://iz.ru/891363/olga-kolentcova/led-i-plany-v-arktiku-otpravitsia-rossiisko-kitaiskaia-ekspeditciia

    Nuclear lighter carrier Sevmorput sailed via the NSR from Kamchatka for 18 days & is now moored in St. Petersburg: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2719441.html


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    Lomonosov arrived in Pevek and is parked on site

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    Land infrastructure is ready as well

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    Post  Hole Today at 11:38 am

    I hope there is an airport close to the site so that Greenpiss can fly in and protest against this Evil nuclear power plant. Very Happy
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Today at 2:30 pm

    Only in Alaska, but they r not welcome there.
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    Post  GarryB Today at 3:09 pm

    There is an opportunity... tell the Americans you are from Greenpeace and that you are planning to raid the NPP and spray paint slogans on it and hang anti nuke murals from its sides and then photograph it to embarrass the Ruskies... ask them for funding... paint and people and resources don't come cheap and then when they hand over the cheque go for a nice holiday in some tropical region and release recordings of US officials offering to fund your alleged activities.

    Hell, you could even be mad enough to go ahead and break in to a US NPP and do it there... and release the recordings if there is any backlash from the US for doing it to them... showing that they endorsed it and paid for it would be really amusing....

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