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    Russia - Vietnam Military Deals

    Post  Vladimir79 on Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:21 am

    OAO "East Wharf" will fulfill the contract with the Republic of Vietnam for the construction of two ships

    Vladivostok. July 20. Interfax-AVN - In Primorye, July 22 at the Shipyard JSC East Wharf held a solemn laying of two patrol boats in the military-technical cooperation with the Republic of Vietnam, the press-service of administration of the province.

    The report notes that the ceremony will be attended by representatives of administration of the province, "Rosoboronexport", the representatives of Viet Nam.

    According to the press service, so much the order will ensure Primorskoye of work for several years.

    The company was founded in 1952 as Vladivostok shipyard. In 1994, transformed into OAO "East Wharf.

    Wharf was designed for the construction of ships for the Pacific Fleet of Russia and the Border Forces Far East Russia. Over the years the company built over 400 ships and vessels for the Navy, the Border Force and fishery organizations.

    The company has extensive experience built for export. More than 30 artillery, torpedo, missile boats have already put into Vietnam, Cuba, China, Indonesia, Ethiopia, Guinea, Iraq.

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    Rosoboronexport sells Vietnam eight Su-30MK2

    Post  Vladimir79 on Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:08 am

    Rosoboronexport signed a contract with Vietnam for the supply of eight Su-30MK2
    20/08/2009

    Zhukovsky, 19 August. (ITAR-TASS). Rosoboronexport signed a contract with Vietnam for the supply of eight Su-30MK2. This was announced today at a press conference, deputy general director of Rosoboronexport, Alexander Mikheyev.

    "In January, signed a contract to supply eight Su-30MK2, - clarified Mikheev. - Vietnam, our traditional partner, there is a whole infrastructure to service aircraft, since previously there were delivered to the Su-27".

    Mikheyev noted that the contract was signed after "a pause of several years." "We have taken up the order in Komsomolsk-on-Amur aviation plant, - he said. - Contract will be implemented in 2010-2011.

    Asked how implementing a contract to supply China, the party of military transport aircraft Il-76 air tankers and Il-78, Mikheyev said that the contract is not executed, "because he did not come into force." "There is a regular request of our partners," - he said.

    In his view, the Chinese partners need to define the appearance of the aircraft, because the production of these machines can be at two venues - in Ulyanovsk on Aviastar-SP and at the Tashkent aviation plant. "For Rosoboronexport main partner - Aviastar-SP, with the Tashkent factory relationships, we do not support", - said Mikheyev.

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    Vietnam - submarines and aircraft

    Post  Vladimir79 on Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:13 am

    Vietnam - submarines and aircraft
    04/12/2009

    Work on the contract to supply Vietnam six diesel submarines of Project 636 type Varshavyanka successfully completed, the signing of the contract - the case the next few months, told "Vedomosti" a source close to the deal in the shipbuilding industry of St. Petersburg.

    The same information was confirmed by the manager "Russian technology. The contract includes, in his words, not only the supply of boats and crew training, but also the creation of coastal infrastructure-based submarines, because Vietnam has not previously had its own submarine fleet. This will be the largest single contract to supply submarines to the post-Soviet period, more than the number of ships was only the Chinese contract to supply eight submarines in 2002, says expert at the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, Konstantin Makiyenko. Its cost could reach more than 1.8 billion dollars, he estimates. In addition, it is a very large contract, and by world standards - in fact, France is only in recent years, similar contracts to build under license in India's submarines Scorpene.

    Coming to an end and can be completed in the next 1-2 months and negotiations for the supply of Vietnam, 12 more Su-30MK2, sources in the KLA and the manager of one of the entities involved in the production of machines of this type. In January, was contracted to supply to Vietnam eight Su-30MK2, and earlier Vietnam received 16 fighter-type Su-27/30.

    The cost of a new contract for 12 machines without arms could reach at least $ 600 million, according to Makienko. In this case the Vietnamese military continues to explore the possibility of purchase of MiG-29 fighters and Su-35, said a source in the KLA.

    And soon, as announced yesterday at the Armory LIMA Exhibition in Langkawi Malaysian representative of the company "Helicopters of Russia" in Southeast Asia Dmitry Vypryazhkin, with Vietnam may be entered into a contract to supply a large number of Mi-17 helicopters.

    As a nation with a booming economy and historically tied to the Soviet-type weapons, China has become one of the major importers of Russia's weapons, says Makienko.

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    Re: Russia - Vietnam Military Deals

    Post  milky_candy_sugar on Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:15 pm

    Yeah, vietnamese defence budget is growing very fast due to the actual chinese threat


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    Vietnam could become key importer of Russian weaponry

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:08 pm

    Vietnam could become a key importer of Russian weaponry if several contracts on the purchase of diesel submarines and aircraft are signed in the near future, a Russian newspaper said.

    According to the Vedomosti business daily, Moscow and Hanoi are close to sign deals on the purchase of six Kilo class diesel-electric submarines and 12 Su-30MK2 Flanker-C multirole fighters.

    The submarine contract, worth an estimated $1.8 billion, includes the construction of on-shore infrastructure and training of submarine crews and will be the second largest submarine contract concluded by Russia since the Soviet era after the 2002 deal on the delivery of eight subs to China.

    The Project 636 Kilo class submarine is thought to be one of the most silent submarine classes in the world. It has been specifically designed for anti-shipping and anti-submarine operations in relatively shallow waters.

    Russia has built Kilo class submarines for India, China and Iran.

    Vedomosti also cited sources in Russia's aircraft manufacturing industry as saying a new contract on the delivery of 12 Su-30MK2 fighter jets in addition to eight aircraft of the same type ordered by Vietnam in January 2009.

    Su-30MK2 is an advanced two-seat version of the Su-27 Flanker multirole fighter with upgraded electronics and capability to launch anti-ship missiles.

    The new contract could be worth at least $600 million, not including the price of on-board weaponry.

    In addition, Russia could sign a deal with Vietnam on the delivery of a large number of Mi-17 helicopters, a source in the Russian Helicopters company said during the LIMA 2009 arms show in Malaysia on Wednesday.

    According to Russian military analyst Konstantin Makiyenko, the new deals will push Vietnam to the top of the list of major buyers of the Russian weaponry, as the share of China and India in Russia's arms exports is gradually declining.

    MOSCOW, December 4 (RIA Novosti)

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    Russia should invest more in Vietnam (as well as their neighbors). Reason for it, a rich and successful country is followed by its wealthy allies. For instance, if Russia decides to help build Vietnams infrastructure, as well as provide new schools and buisness', Russia can profit a lot out of it.
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    Russia-Vietnam submarine deal worth record $3.2 bln — magazine

    Post  Russian Patriot on Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:50 am

    Russia-Vietnam submarine deal worth record $3.2 bln — magazine

    RIA Novosti

    01:38 03/06/2010

    MOSCOW, June 3 (RIA Novosti) - Last year's contract on the delivery of six Kilo class diesel submarines to Vietnam, worth a total of $3.2 billion, is the largest deal in the history of Russian exports of naval equipment, a Russian magazine says.

    The contract was signed in December 2009 during the visit of Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung to Russia.

    "The construction cost is $2.1 billion, but the building of all necessary coastal infrastructure and the delivery of armaments and other equipment may bring the total to $3.2 bln, which makes this deal the largest in the history of Russian exports of naval equipment," the Export of Arms magazine says in an editorial published in its June issue.

    Admiralty Shipyards in St. Petersburg will build the submarines with the rate of one vessel per year.

    State-run arms exporter Rosoboronexport previously said Russia could sell up to 40 fourth-generation diesel-electric submarines to foreign customers by 2015.

    Kilo class submarines, nicknamed "Black Holes" for their ability to avoid detection, are considered to be among the quietest diesel-electric submarines in the world.

    The submarine is designed for anti-submarine warfare and anti-surface-ship warfare, and also for general reconnaissance and patrol missions.

    The vessel has a displacement of 2,300 tons, a maximum depth of 350 meters (1,200 feet), a range of 6,000 miles, and a crew of 57. It is equipped with six 533-mm torpedo tubes.

    At least 29 Kilo class subs have been exported to China, India, Iran, Poland, Romania and Algeria.

    Export of Arms is a specialized Moscow-based technical and analytical magazine, published bimonthly by Russia's Centre for Strategic and Technological Analysis.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2010/06/mil-100603-rianovosti02.htm
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    Re: Russia - Vietnam Military Deals

    Post  George1 on Fri May 04, 2012 9:13 pm

    Russia, Vietnam to Jointly Manufacture Anti-Ship Missiles

    Russia and Vietnam are planning to start in 2012 joint production of a modified anti-ship missile, head of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation Mikhail Dmitriyev said on Wednesday.

    “We are planning to build facilities in Vietnam for the production of a version of the Russian Uran [SS-N-25 Switchblade] missile in a project that is similar to joint Russian-Indian production of the BrahMos missile,” Dmitriyev said.

    The Uran subsonic anti-ship missile can be launched from helicopters, surface ships and coastal defense batteries. It has a range of up to 250 kilometers (135 nautical miles) and carries a 145-kilogram high explosive warhead.

    Russian-Indian joint venture BrahMos Aerospace Ltd, set up in 1998, manufactures supersonic cruise missiles based on the Russian-designed NPO Mashinostroyenie 3M55 Yakhont (SS-N-26).

    Sea- and ground-launched versions have been successfully tested and put into service with the Indian Army and Navy.
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    Post  George1 on Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:18 am

    Admiralteyskie Verfi to Launch First Sub for Vietnam

    First out of six Project 636 diesel electric submarines ordered by Vietnam will be put afloat at Admiralteyskie Verfi shipyard (St. Petersburg) in Aug 2012, reports Newsland.ru referring to a source in Russian defense industry.

    Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung in Dec 2009 announced the $2-bln contract tied with Russia for six Project 636 submarines.

    "In accordance with that contract, the first submarine will be launched this month and then begin trials", said the interviewee having specified that the launching ceremony would be held on Aug 28.

    He added that the first submarine would be delivered to the client by the year end. It is planned to complete the contract by 2016.

    Displacement of Project 636 submarines is 3,100 tons, speed is 20 knots, submergence depth is 300 meters, crew is 52 men. Such subs are armed with 533-mm torpedoes (six tubes), mines, and Caliber missile attack system.

    http://rusnavy.com/news/navy/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=15656
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    Expert: Vietnam to Become Leading Buyer of Russian Arms

    Post  George1 on Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:02 pm

    Expert: Vietnam to Become Leading Buyer of Russian Arms

    In the next few years, Vietnam will join the top three importers of Russian arms, said Igor Korotchenko, director general of the World Arms Trade Analytic Center (WATAC).

    That was his comment on press reports that Admiralteyskie Verfi shipyard (St. Petersburg) on Aug 28 would launch the first out of six Kilo-class submarines ordered by Vietnam.

    "Taking into account officially announced and currently negotiated large-scale submarine export programs, one may state that in the mid-term prospect Vietnam will be definitely among the top three importers of Russian weapons", Korotchenko told RIA Novosti.

    In the last 4-year period (2008-2011) WATAC evaluates scope of identified Russian military export to Vietnam (determined by UN Register of Conventional Arms) as $1.88 bln, which makes 6.3% of Russia's total exports. With this result, Vietnam took fifth position in the rating of Russian arms importers.

    According to the current backlog of orders, in the present 4-year period (2012-2015), Vietnam has climbed on the fourth position in that rating. WATAC appraises volume of estimated Russian military export to Vietnam in 2012-2015 as $2.43 bln which will make 7.6% of Russia's total exports including current orders and intentions of direct deliveries.

    In recent years, Vietnam has signed a number of large arms procurement contracts, Korotchenko said.

    For one, trying to modernize its navy radically, Vietnam has become one of the largest buyers of Russian naval weapons. The biggest program is delivery of six Project 636 (Kilo-class) diesel-electric submarines to Vietnamese Navy.

    Russia and Vietnam signed that $2 bln contract late in 2009. Kilo-class subs built for Vietnam will be armed with Club-S cruise missiles.

    Three months after the contract signing, the parties kicked off talks on construction of a basing site for diesel submarines with appropriate infrastructure. According to expert appraisals, value of this program would be either comparable or even larger than cost of submarines.

    "Alongside with acquiring a submarine fleet, Vietnam began renewal of its surface ships and boats. Lion's share of Vietnamese Navy modernization is also held by Russia", pointed out the WATAC director.

    In particular, it is delivery program of Project 10412 patrol boats (export version of Project 10410 Svetlyak). In total, Vietnam has received six boats of that project. Each of them costs about $15 mln. The second largest project in boats' segment is the Molniya-class boat delivery and license production program.

    Another large project being implemented with Vietnam is delivery of frigates. In 2006, Rosoboronexport signed a $350 mln contract for delivery of two Project 11661 Gepard-3.9 frigates to Vietnamese Navy. Its ensign was triumphantly hoisted on the first frigate early March 2011 at the Cam Ranh naval base. The second frigate was commissioned into Vietnamese Navy late Aug 2011.

    According to WATAC, in Dec 2011 an option for delivery of the second pair of Gepard-class frigates was turned into effective contract.

    Except for that, Russia holds negotiations with Vietnam on delivery of additional antiship coast-based missile systems Bastion under target-specific government credit for several types of weapon systems.

    Two sets of the K-330P Bastion-P missile systems were handed over to Vietnam under the first contract in 2010 and 2011.

    Large-scale military aircraft export programs are being realized with Vietnam as well. Early in 2009, the $400 mln contract was signed implying delivery of eight Su-30MK2 fighters without aircraft weapon. In Feb 2010, the second $1 bln contract was signed for twelve Su-30MK2 fighters with weapons. It also provides delivery of aircraft weapons for the first lot of airplanes ordered in 2009.

    Early in 2011, Russia had finished deliveries under the first contract and started implementation of the second one (eight fighters have been delivered). It is planned to complete the contract in 2012 with delivery of the rest four airplanes.

    Considering additional procurement, JSC Sukhoi holds talks on founding of a regional aircraft maintenance center in Vietnam.

    Also, Vietnam is considered a potential buyer of 18 fighters Su-30K stationed in Belarus.

    Hanoi recently declared an intention to launch national air defense modernization program with Russia's assistance.

    Therefore, in the mid-term prospect Vietnam will entrench itself at the third position of Russian arms importers rating, concluded Korotchenko.

    http://rusnavy.com/news/navy/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=15744
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    Exports to Vietnam in Recent Years

    Post  TR1 on Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:31 pm

    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=198020&d=1364047557

    Interesting little chart.
    Confirms that that Vietnam is joining the list of Yak-130 and Pantsir-S1 exports.
    Further I did not know Vietnam bought Buk and S-300PMU2.

    Pretty comprehensive stuff all in all.
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    Re: Russia - Vietnam Military Deals

    Post  Viktor on Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:17 pm

    From your link.

    Vietnam intends to contract two more Gepard-3 fregate and as it is stated in that link of yours here comes a confirmation.




    27/03/13 ZELENODOLSK PLANT WILL BUILD TWO CORVETTES "CHEETAH" FOR VIETNAM

    Rostov online . Two export corvette "Gepard-3.9" on the revised draft will be constructed for 11661E Vietnamese Zelenodolsk Shipyard, said the company's CEO Renat Mistahov. "Laying the Vietnamese corvette under the contract will be made ​​in June this year, will then be laying the second ship," - said Mistahov ITAR-TASS during the international exhibition LIMA 2013.

    "Deadlines customer ships scheduled for 2016 and 2017", - he added. In 2007 Zelenodolsk Shipyard laid two other corvettes "Gepard-3.9" for Vietnam, which had been transferred to the customer in 2011. The total amount of Vietnamese contract for the first two ships more than 300 million dollars.

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    TR1 wrote:http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=198020&d=1364047557

    Interesting little chart.
    Confirms that that Vietnam is joining the list of Yak-130 and Pantsir-S1 exports.
    Further I did not know Vietnam bought Buk and S-300PMU2.

    Pretty comprehensive stuff all in all.


    Its not clear from that link if the S-300PMU2 and BUK-M1/2 as well as SA-10E/48N6E are all part of the same 480mM$ deal or

    it is all separate.

    One battery of S-300PMU2 would cost about 200 million dolars $ and one BUK-M2 battery about 120 million $.

    Belarus also got a contract to modernize 10 regiments of Vietnam S-125 to the S-125-2TM standard. (although there is no info about it

    at SIPRI)

    Given the resti of the deliveries including ships, subs, planes, SAM etc Vietnam is really catching up with the modern armies of the

    region.
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    Re: Russia - Vietnam Military Deals

    Post  AlfaT8 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:15 am

    Viktor wrote:

    One battery of S-300PMU2 would cost about 200 million dolars $ and one BUK-M2 battery about 120 million $.



    Never realised that the BUK-M2 was so expensive. Shocked
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    Re: Russia - Vietnam Military Deals

    Post  Viktor on Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:40 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:Never realised that the BUK-M2 was so expensive. Shocked

    Syria bought 8 batteries of BUK-M2 for 1 billion $.
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    Post  TR1 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:49 am

    Makes sense, when you consider how many tracking radars alone there are in a battery, and then ofc there are the missile reloads.

    Vietnam is going for a very diversified AD structure, in tiers: S-300 > Buk > Pantsir > Igla
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    Post  AlfaT8 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:49 pm

    TR1 wrote:Makes sense, when you consider how many tracking radars alone there are in a battery, and then ofc there are the missile reloads.
    I guess that makes sense, to some degree. Neutral

    TR1 wrote:Vietnam is going for a very diversified AD structure, in tiers: S-300 > Buk > Pantsir > Igla
    Damn, the only thing missing is TOR and they'll have a pretty strong Air defense structure.
    Do they have a solid air defense network to go with all these components??
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    Post  Viktor on Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:36 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:I guess that makes sense, to some degree.

    It is possible however that 8 Syrian BUK-M2 batteries consisted of regimental or even brigade level control post which would

    integrate existing older air defense systems and make them more efficient. It is possible that Syria has bought extra radar

    systems to made its air defense more tough within that same contract. We will probably never know.

    AlfaT8 wrote:Do they have a solid air defense network to go with all these components??

    What do you mean?
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    Post  AlfaT8 on Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:21 am

    Viktor wrote:What do you mean?
    Sorry that was a wrong way of putting it, forget it. Razz  Embarassed


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    Re: Russia - Vietnam Military Deals

    Post  chenzhao on Sun May 05, 2013 1:54 pm

    Vietnamese's increasing demand of navy equipment is a good news for Russian shipyard . As a Chinese I don't worry about Vietnamese's Gepard 3.9 corvetee at all . Form some point of view , the fast growing strength of China's south sea fleet has offered Russian shipyard more opportunities, Maybe it's another form of "sino-russia cooperation ".
    Ps. I have visited Vietnamese several years ago , a beautiful country , and I was treated as a friendly tourist . I said I believe the dispute over Spratly islands will certainly be solved peacefully, many Vietnamese agreed on me too .
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    Re: Russia - Vietnam Military Deals

    Post  George1 on Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:38 pm

    Russia to Hand Over ‘Black Hole’ Sub to Vietnam in November


    MOSCOW, July 29 (RIA Novosti) – The first of six Russian submarines, dubbed by the US Navy as “black holes in the ocean” because they are nearly undetectable when submerged, will be delivered to Vietnam in November, the shipbuilder said Monday.

    The Varshavyanka class (Project 636M) of diesel-electric submarines have very low noise emission and can hit targets at long distances without being detected by an enemy’s anti-submarine warfare assets.

    “We are expecting the signing of the acceptance act and the sub’s sailing to Vietnam in November,” the press service of Admiralty Shipyards said from St. Petersburg.

    The submarine successfully completed 100-day sea trials in July while the Vietnamese crew has been in training since April this year, the shipbuilder said in a statement.

    “The vessel showed excellent maneuverability and reliable work of all mechanisms during the trials,” the statement said.

    Vietnam ordered a fleet of six Russian-made submarines in 2009, seen as an effort to counterbalance China’s expanding maritime influence in the region. The contract, which also stipulates the training of Vietnamese submarine crews in Russia, is reportedly worth $2 billion.

    All six boats are being built at Admiralty Shipyards. They are due for delivery by 2016.

    The Varshavyanka class is an improvement on the Kilo, with more advanced stealth technology and an extended combat range. The vessels displace 3,100 tons, reach speeds of 20 knots, can dive to 300 meters and carry crews of 52 people.

    The submarines, which feature 533-milimeter torpedo tubes and are armed with torpedoes, mines and Kalibr 3M54 (NATO SS-N-27 Sizzler) cruise missiles, are mainly intended for anti-shipping and anti-submarine missions in relatively shallow waters.
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    Re: Russia - Vietnam Military Deals

    Post  Viktor on Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:03 pm

    Vietnam building on Su-30 numbers (36 with this acquisition + 16 Su-27)


    Russia will supply Vietnam 12 more Su-30 MK2


    Russia will supply Vietnam has 12 multi-role fighters Su-30 MK2, "Interfax-AVN" on Tuesday, the military-diplomatic source.
    "The contract to supply Vietnam 12 Su-30MK2 was signed last week. It not only provides for the delivery of aircraft, but also the technical equipment," - said the source. He recalled that this is the third contract for the Sukhoi fighters. Two previous to the delivery of eight and twelve aircraft successfully completed.
    "Delivery of the aircraft under the new contract will be carried out in three batches of four cars in 2014-2015" - a spokesman said.
    He declined to name the value of the contract, citing the fact that it is a trade secret. According to experts, the cost of the contract is at least $ 600 million
    In the "Rosoboronexport" and the company "Sukhoi" did not comment on the signing of a new arms contracts with Vietnam, but noted that the country is an important partner of Russia in the sphere of military-technical cooperation.
    Su-30MK2 - multi-role fighter with extensive combat capabilities. It is capable of striking with high efficiency not only air, but also ground and marine purposes. In his arsenal are guided air missiles and guided aerial bombs.
    Aircraft fitted with an advanced avionics, new systems of communication and navigation control of the equipment and the crew. ECM system provides automatic target information entered into the arms of an aircraft anti-radar missiles Kh-31P.
    Since that time in China, Indonesia, Vietnam and Venezuela, has delivered more than 130 Sukhoi Su-30MK2.

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    12 more Su-30MK2 for Vietnam

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:17 am

    Russia to deliver 12 more Su-30MK2's for Vietnam

    MOSCOW, August 21 (RIA Novosti) – Russia will deliver another batch of 12 Sukhoi Su-30MK2 fighter aircraft under a recent contract worth about $450 million, a defense industry source told RIA Novosti on Wednesday.
    The contract was reportedly signed last week, and the Su-30s are expected to be delivered to Vietnam in 2014-2015.
    “A similar modification, priced at $35-37 million per plane, had been earlier sold to China,” the source said.
    Russia has delivered a total of 20 Su-30 fighter jets under two previous contracts signed in 2009 and 2010.
    Still trying to figure out why Su-30MK2 rather than MKI, seeing as how China operates same aircraft and China is the more likely foe Vietnam will face. As well, surprised no Su-35. Rumor was Vietnam wasn't impressed with it, which is odd, seeing as how the Irbis Hybrid radar is significantly better in everything compared to the N001VEP that the Su-30MK2 operates.
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    Re: Russia - Vietnam Military Deals

    Post  Viktor on Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:26 am

    sepheronx wrote:Still trying to figure out why Su-30MK2 rather than MKI, seeing as how China operates same aircraft and China is the more likely foe Vietnam will face.  As well, surprised no Su-35.  Rumor was Vietnam wasn't impressed with it, which is odd, seeing as how the Irbis Hybrid radar is significantly better in everything compared to the N001VEP that the Su-30MK2 operates.
    Well, to be realistic, Vietnam can never hope to beat China in any future war but in best case to give a black eye.

    On the other hand who knows what other deals are in the pipeline (remember SIPRI and numerous S-300/Pancir-S1 and other reported deals) so this may be simple matter of money

    optimization. Taking most of the money you have given specific circumstances.
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    Post  TR1 on Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:47 am

    sepheronx wrote:Russia to deliver 12 more Su-30MK2's for Vietnam

    MOSCOW, August 21 (RIA Novosti) – Russia will deliver another batch of 12 Sukhoi Su-30MK2 fighter aircraft under a recent contract worth about $450 million, a defense industry source told RIA Novosti on Wednesday.
    The contract was reportedly signed last week, and the Su-30s are expected to be delivered to Vietnam in 2014-2015.
    “A similar modification, priced at $35-37 million per plane, had been earlier sold to China,” the source said.
    Russia has delivered a total of 20 Su-30 fighter jets under two previous contracts signed in 2009 and 2010.
    Still trying to figure out why Su-30MK2 rather than MKI, seeing as how China operates same aircraft and China is the more likely foe Vietnam will face.  As well, surprised no Su-35.  Rumor was Vietnam wasn't impressed with it, which is odd, seeing as how the Irbis Hybrid radar is significantly better in everything compared to the N001VEP that the Su-30MK2 operates.
    Well the RuAF is impressed by it and I will take their word over the Vietnamese, to be frank.

    Vietnam operates the Knaaz Su-30s and Su-27s already, so for commonalities sake (as well as price) buying more MKs makes sense.
    I imagine it should not be difficult to upgrade in a decade in any case.

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    Post  a89 on Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:06 pm

    Well the RuAF is impressed by it
    Hello TR1, do you have more details in this? are they impressed with radar? interface? performance?

    Russia will deliver another batch of 12 Sukhoi Su-30MK2 fighter aircraft under a recent contract worth about $450 million, a defense industry source told RIA Novosti on Wednesday.
    The contract was reportedly signed last week, and the Su-30s are expected to be delivered to Vietnam in 2014-2015.
    I wonder if these birds are not the ex-indian samples. 450 million $ is rather low for a Su-30, although in other websites I have read 600 million $.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:41 pm

    Keep in mind that the Russian Su-35 will be different from the export Su-35.

    The Russian Su-35 is pretty much a test bed for a lot of equipment that will be used on the Russian PAK FA.

    The export Su-35 may have quite a bit of less impressive technology fitted instead.

    For the Vietnamese I suspect they were not impressed by the export model Su-35 because it was likely more expensive and had rather less in common with the aircraft they had already bought which reduces commonality and standardisation.


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