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Russia - Iraq bilateral cooperation
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Military officials say Iraq likely to welcome ‘no red line’ Russian airstrikes
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Dima- Posts : 1222
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- Post n°17
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I feel, Russia should only keep the option open of striking on behalf of Iraqi govt. The primary objective now is to stabilize Syria and help strengthen the Syrian Govt/military and regain lost territory along with decimating as much terrorists as possible. Once an acceptable level of stabilization has been achieved should the Iraqi theater be handled. US is anyway striking ISIS targets (only the Yanks and God know what they have been striking for the past one year and now) so let them continue with it and help themselves with massaging their ego. An idle US without any bombing role would be more irritant for Russia, so let the US bomb anyone other than the Syrian Army/allies. It will keep both sides happy.
Obama should not be sacrificed and I'm sure Putin has considered this in all his moves. Russian administration knows that regardless of the hostile acts by the Obama administration (Obama regime - if we take Western terminology often used for Russia/Syria/non-US poodle governments) outside of Obama and Kerry there are only mental retards.
Like I said in some other thread some time back, Russia needs to buy time and balanace its acts. I personally would buy time and I feel Russian military needs time, mainly navy needs ships and I'm waiting patiently to see atleast 4 new combatants (11356 and 22350) to get active. Atleast 4 is better than none.
Obama should not be sacrificed and I'm sure Putin has considered this in all his moves. Russian administration knows that regardless of the hostile acts by the Obama administration (Obama regime - if we take Western terminology often used for Russia/Syria/non-US poodle governments) outside of Obama and Kerry there are only mental retards.
Like I said in some other thread some time back, Russia needs to buy time and balanace its acts. I personally would buy time and I feel Russian military needs time, mainly navy needs ships and I'm waiting patiently to see atleast 4 new combatants (11356 and 22350) to get active. Atleast 4 is better than none.
iraqidabab- Posts : 316
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^^ Thing is if Iraq is liberated a huge amount of fighters will enter Syria to help fight terrorists there as they all know if Syria is unsafe Iraq will not be safe.
As for US, they don't do anything, they have no 'strategy' as they often say meaning they don't know if they actually want Iraqi forces to retake it, they probably fear the amount of them who will go to Syria afterwards.
As for US, they don't do anything, they have no 'strategy' as they often say meaning they don't know if they actually want Iraqi forces to retake it, they probably fear the amount of them who will go to Syria afterwards.
George1- Posts : 18320
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Iraq, Russia Review Military-Technical Cooperation Agreements
The delegation of Russia’s federal service for military-technical cooperation (MTC) that came to Baghdad reviewed the existing deals between Russia and Iraq, according to an Iraqi Defense Ministry spokesman.
MOSCOW (Sputnik) – The delegation of Russia’s federal service for military-technical cooperation (MTC) has reviewed several deals with Iraq during its visit to Baghdad, some of the agreements will be continued while some will be halted due to difficulties, an Iraqi Defense Ministry spokesman told Sputnik.
"The participants of the meeting have again reviewed the existing deals between Russia and Iraq, they made a decision to stop implementation of some and continue [implementation] of others. Difficulties which arise from the managerial point of view as well as technical issues were discussed," Tahsin Ibrahim said.
Russia and Iraq has been actively cooperating in various areas, including in military-technical development, oil and investment.
In July, the sides signed an agreement on military-technical cooperation, to aid Iraq in countering Islamic State jihadist group advances in the country.
On Wednesday, Iraqi Parliament Defense and Security Committee Chairman Haqim Zamli told Sputnik that Iraq may turn to Russia for military help in the fight against Islamic State if Russian airstrikes in Syria prove successful.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151013/1028480729/iraq-russia-cooperation.html#ixzz3oTr4YBNg
The delegation of Russia’s federal service for military-technical cooperation (MTC) that came to Baghdad reviewed the existing deals between Russia and Iraq, according to an Iraqi Defense Ministry spokesman.
MOSCOW (Sputnik) – The delegation of Russia’s federal service for military-technical cooperation (MTC) has reviewed several deals with Iraq during its visit to Baghdad, some of the agreements will be continued while some will be halted due to difficulties, an Iraqi Defense Ministry spokesman told Sputnik.
"The participants of the meeting have again reviewed the existing deals between Russia and Iraq, they made a decision to stop implementation of some and continue [implementation] of others. Difficulties which arise from the managerial point of view as well as technical issues were discussed," Tahsin Ibrahim said.
Russia and Iraq has been actively cooperating in various areas, including in military-technical development, oil and investment.
In July, the sides signed an agreement on military-technical cooperation, to aid Iraq in countering Islamic State jihadist group advances in the country.
On Wednesday, Iraqi Parliament Defense and Security Committee Chairman Haqim Zamli told Sputnik that Iraq may turn to Russia for military help in the fight against Islamic State if Russian airstrikes in Syria prove successful.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151013/1028480729/iraq-russia-cooperation.html#ixzz3oTr4YBNg
sepheronx- Posts : 8536
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I imagine the technical issues are completely related to US pressure on Iraq? That would make plenty of sense. I guess if they made more deals together without being in the limelight, they can get a lot done. Maybe sign agreement for MiG's or tanks or something in small batches?
George1- Posts : 18320
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Russian-Iraqi Business Council
The Organization which is intended for facilitating the establishment of business relations between the Russian and Iraqi business communities as well as to contributing to the trade and economic cooperation development between Russia and Iraq
http://www.rirbc.ru/en/
The Organization which is intended for facilitating the establishment of business relations between the Russian and Iraqi business communities as well as to contributing to the trade and economic cooperation development between Russia and Iraq
The Russian-Iraqi Business Council was established on December 5th, 2012, under the auspices of the Russian Chamber of Commerce and the Russian-Arab Business Council
http://www.rirbc.ru/en/
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Russia iraq
Russia supplied Kurdistan and Iraq with equipment used in protection and detection of chemical weapons.
Equipment has been delivered to Baghdad International Airport and will be distributed later.
Source: https://arabic.rt.com/news/797602-روسيا-العراق-حماية-أسلحة-كيميائية/
Translated: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=sr&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Farabic.rt.com%2Fnews%2F797602-روسيا-العراق-حماية-أسلحة-كيميائية%2F
Equipment has been delivered to Baghdad International Airport and will be distributed later.
Source: https://arabic.rt.com/news/797602-روسيا-العراق-حماية-أسلحة-كيميائية/
Translated: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=sr&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Farabic.rt.com%2Fnews%2F797602-روسيا-العراق-حماية-أسلحة-كيميائية%2F
sheytanelkebir- Posts : 536
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if you invite them, I won't play anymore.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-iraq-chose-between-american-and-russian-airstrikes-in-isis-fight/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-iraq-chose-between-american-and-russian-airstrikes-in-isis-fight/
Walther von Oldenburg- Posts : 1641
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Why so much frustration? If ISIS is such a horrible satanic entity as Americans aay, why they don't want to fight it together with Russia?sheytanelkebir wrote:if you invite them, I won't play anymore.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-iraq-chose-between-american-and-russian-airstrikes-in-isis-fight/
Cyberspec- Posts : 2904
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sheytanelkebir wrote:if you invite them, I won't play anymore.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-iraq-chose-between-american-and-russian-airstrikes-in-isis-fight/
Interesting times....this sort of thing would've seemed unimaginable even a few weeks ago
Werewolf- Posts : 5915
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Does that mean that US will stop bombing Syrian and Iraqi resistance against ISIS? They never bombed ISIS everyone knows that, if US wants to destroy something they do it with lot of collateral damage, but they haven't done anything else but to pave the way for ISIS into Syria and have done absolutley nothing in Iraq, columns with thousands of ISIS terrorists could ride into Iraq without a single shot fired, but almost no civilian survived trying to flee from Bagdad as the muh-ricans have bombarded the roads leaving Bagdad which is very famous today which just shows US cynism in the world.
Walther von Oldenburg- Posts : 1641
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What resistance? Are they bombing Syrian army or what?
If yes - show us proof. Maybe some official info from SANA, Press TV etc. Like I said before, if USA is bombing Assad, Assad has no f... business in hiding it from the world. Israelis did some bombings mostly agaisnt Hezbollah but there were only a few of them and casualties casued by them mean nothing in strategic or even operational sclae.
If yes - show us proof. Maybe some official info from SANA, Press TV etc. Like I said before, if USA is bombing Assad, Assad has no f... business in hiding it from the world. Israelis did some bombings mostly agaisnt Hezbollah but there were only a few of them and casualties casued by them mean nothing in strategic or even operational sclae.
Werewolf- Posts : 5915
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Walther von Oldenburg wrote:What resistance? Are they bombing Syrian army or what?
If yes - show us proof. Maybe some official info from SANA, Press TV etc. Like I said before, if USA is bombing Assad, Assad has no f... business in hiding it from the world. Israelis did some bombings mostly agaisnt Hezbollah but there were only a few of them and casualties casued by them mean nothing in strategic or even operational sclae.
How about first factual evidence that US bombed ISIS, with factual evidence of the dead not some black and white footage of destroyed Toyota pickups which US bought in tenthousands for ISIS themselfs. Factual evidence of bombing against ISIS shown and proven to be in ISIS not some garbage video with just a title and old footage from some other place which the west constantly uses.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-bombs-syrian-oil-refineries-to-prevent-assad-from-retaking-them/5404808
http://topwar.ru/59055-ssha-bombyat-siriyskaya-armiya-osvobozhdaet.html
yandex translated
In any case, Syria, of course, the damage from American air strikes, even if they are directed against terrorists. Suffer buildings, oil fields, infrastructure. After a while, after the inevitable victory, the Syrian people will restore everything that was destroyed by the terrorists, and that defeated the Tomahawks.
I find it funny that you come up with such garbage when it is so obvious especially since ISIS was financed and created by the very same countries that are the first to announce air strikes against ISIS, Turkey, Israel, US, Saudis, UAE and every shit of this countries has only attacked what targets they wanted. The turks have attacked PKK kurds, the Israelis have attacked Syria the US has attacked infrastructure almost Serbian style, Sauds and UAE have attacked whatever but ISIS. Not a little suspicious that the biggest Terror supporting countries which till this day unbroken and unholded have supported and are supporting Terror groups such as ISIS,FSA,Al-CIAda,Al-Nusra,Taliban etc all the same terrorists under different names to create an "Islamic threat" in the mindest of stupid westerners like you.
Very suspicious that the trouble makers are coming forth to be the saviors from their own created terrorism. Mafia style 101. Use a brain.
George1- Posts : 18320
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Baghdad Information Center between Russia, Syria, Iraq and Iran although not a military alliance it reminds me 1955-1979 Baghdad Pact (CENTO) between UK, Turkey, Iraq, Iran and Pakistan
Russia increases its influence in southwestern countries near its frontier
Russia increases its influence in southwestern countries near its frontier
sheytanelkebir- Posts : 536
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George1 wrote:Baghdad Information Center between Russia, Syria, Iraq and Iran although not a military alliance it reminds me 1955-1979 Baghdad Pact (CENTO) between UK, Turkey, Iraq, Iran and Pakistan
Russia increases its influence in southwestern countries near its frontier
and turkey feels a bit "surrounded" ?
sheytanelkebir- Posts : 536
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One of the Shia religious authorities in Najaf Sheikh Oday Al Asam threatened the Iraqi PM haider al abadi with besieging the "green zone" in Baghdad if he does not allow the Russian Air Force to bomb Daesh.
This now puts Abadi in a very difficult spot stuck between the US and the increasingly pro-russian Iraqi armed forces, PMU and population.
This now puts Abadi in a very difficult spot stuck between the US and the increasingly pro-russian Iraqi armed forces, PMU and population.
iraqidabab- Posts : 316
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sheytanelkebir wrote:One of the Shia religious authorities in Najaf Sheikh Oday Al Asam threatened the Iraqi PM haider al abadi with besieging the "green zone" in Baghdad if he does not allow the Russian Air Force to bomb Daesh.
This now puts Abadi in a very difficult spot stuck between the US and the increasingly pro-russian Iraqi armed forces, PMU and population.
If this goes beyond words then it's only going to harm Iraq. The political words can all pressure the US into upping support for Iraq but if some actually attempt to besiege Baghdad it'll only force more Iraqi forces to secure the capital instead of fighting IS. Like the group that struck Ashraf camp.
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Iraq Interested in Increase of Russian Grain Deliveries
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Iraq to coordinate its counter-terrorist efforts with Russia — Russian Foreign Ministry
Whether before or after IS is defeated in Iraq, it seems like Iraq will eventually get a closer alliance with Russia, US cannot be trusted. Iraq's parliament is divided, many prefer replacing US with Russia. Only the cabinet ruling power has not yet formally asked Russia. A lot of it will depend on Syrian army/Russian success in Syria.
Whether before or after IS is defeated in Iraq, it seems like Iraq will eventually get a closer alliance with Russia, US cannot be trusted. Iraq's parliament is divided, many prefer replacing US with Russia. Only the cabinet ruling power has not yet formally asked Russia. A lot of it will depend on Syrian army/Russian success in Syria.
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iraqidabab wrote:Iraq to coordinate its counter-terrorist efforts with Russia — Russian Foreign Ministry
Whether before or after IS is defeated in Iraq, it seems like Iraq will eventually get a closer alliance with Russia, US cannot be trusted. Iraq's parliament is divided, many prefer replacing US with Russia. Only the cabinet ruling power has not yet formally asked Russia. A lot of it will depend on Syrian army/Russian success in Syria.
More strategic successes from American Foreign policy.
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KoTeMoRe wrote:iraqidabab wrote:Iraq to coordinate its counter-terrorist efforts with Russia — Russian Foreign Ministry
Whether before or after IS is defeated in Iraq, it seems like Iraq will eventually get a closer alliance with Russia, US cannot be trusted. Iraq's parliament is divided, many prefer replacing US with Russia. Only the cabinet ruling power has not yet formally asked Russia. A lot of it will depend on Syrian army/Russian success in Syria.
More strategic successes from American Foreign policy.
The US through overuse of unhelpful black and white narratives have got themselves in a position where they have a tough choice between supporting Sunnis or Shia, which means either an uncomfortable alliance with either Al-Qaeda (de facto) or Iran/Hezbollah (de facto). Fortunately Russia is more pragmatic and cleaning up the mess caused by neoliberal delusions of grandeur.
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Russian Deputy PM to Head Delegation to Meet With Iraq Leadership
A Russian delegation headed by Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin will meet with Iraq’s leadership later this week during a visit to the country, a Russian newspaper reported Wednesday.
MOSCOW (Sputnik) — According to the Kommersant, the delegation will arrive in Iraq with a two-day visit on Wednesday. Rogozin will hold a meeting of the intergovernmental commission on economic cooperation, the paper added.
During his visit, the Russian official will meet with the chairman of the commission, Iraqi Foreign Minister Ibrahim Jaafari, and President Fuad Masum, the paper reported. Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov as well as a number of other deputy ministers are expected to accompany Rogozin as part of the Russian delegation, according to the paper.
Bilateral cooperation in the field of energy and in the military-technical sphere is expected to be the main topic of the talks. Apart from government officials, the delegation will include some 90 Russian businessmen, the paper added.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160210/1034488197/rogozin-will-head-delegation-to-iraq.html#ixzz3zk5IQ0TH
A Russian delegation headed by Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin will meet with Iraq’s leadership later this week during a visit to the country, a Russian newspaper reported Wednesday.
MOSCOW (Sputnik) — According to the Kommersant, the delegation will arrive in Iraq with a two-day visit on Wednesday. Rogozin will hold a meeting of the intergovernmental commission on economic cooperation, the paper added.
During his visit, the Russian official will meet with the chairman of the commission, Iraqi Foreign Minister Ibrahim Jaafari, and President Fuad Masum, the paper reported. Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov as well as a number of other deputy ministers are expected to accompany Rogozin as part of the Russian delegation, according to the paper.
Bilateral cooperation in the field of energy and in the military-technical sphere is expected to be the main topic of the talks. Apart from government officials, the delegation will include some 90 Russian businessmen, the paper added.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160210/1034488197/rogozin-will-head-delegation-to-iraq.html#ixzz3zk5IQ0TH
George1- Posts : 18320
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Russia-Iraq Annual Trade Approaches $2Bln, Needs Diversification – Official
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/business/20160211/1034579218/russia-iraq-AnnualTrade.html#ixzz3zrVxZ1qr
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/business/20160211/1034579218/russia-iraq-AnnualTrade.html#ixzz3zrVxZ1qr
sheytanelkebir- Posts : 536
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Russian Technicians working in Taji Army Aviation MRO facility.
http://iraqimilitary.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1700&start=390
seems they're having a look around Iraq's "western" types.
http://iraqimilitary.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1700&start=390
seems they're having a look around Iraq's "western" types.
George1- Posts : 18320
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Russia's Rosneft to take control of Iraqi Kurdish pipeline amid crisis
https://t.co/DKMCRJWG61
https://t.co/DKMCRJWG61
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