Again, I didn’t see any evidence that the arc is let say 60 degrees, the video is nice, but I can’t learn much about the coverage. I do know that the DROZD’s rocket has 20 degrees opening and they are 17 kg rocket. So the best I can give the Arena’s cassette is 30 degrees.
Assuming just 30 degree coverage for each munition it is possible that each of the three munitions in each bin is not launched up to cover the same arc and angling their launching trajectories should enable three munitions each covering 30 degrees to cover a 90 degree sector.
But even with 60 degrees you can’t defend the sides of the tank unless you turn the rear bins.
The video shows the original ARENA and the old munitions... the footage of the old munitions being handled compared with the munitions in the model make me think the new munitions are actually much wider than the old munitions and they could certainly be of a different design that influences the angles they are effective at. They might operate much lower and have a much larger amount of fragments to increase the width and density of fragments for all we know.
120mm mortar are very welcome in the fighting. Tanks, mortars, rockets will be enough in the fight.
The model of the armata BMPT seems to show a rifled 120mm gun/mortar system along with a 23mm calibre gatling and 40/30mm grenade launcher, all with high elevation.
It is always better for a unit to have direct fire weapons with it that is always ready to use.
In a single Brigade there can be three or four companies that might all want fire support at once... if you have your own BMPT you can provide your own firepower.
The D-9 will do much better job.
Not really applicable. If you are talking about ongoing anti terrorist operations with FSB and MVD troops then tractors can and do make sense, but for an Army optimised for full scale combat it makes rather more sense to use tanks and indeed tank based engineer vehicles for such jobs.
I don't think that the Armeta's bins build like that.
We really don't know anything at all about the armata... we are talking about a model of a tank with upgraded ARENA-2 fitted. It is not even a T-90AM/SM, let alone an armata.
I rather suspect the armata will have a very different arrangement with the sensors all integrated so there is 360 degree coverage of optics, thermals, mmw radar etc etc, likely with DIRCM and anti sniper and laser detection features included.
Your idea is very good, the question is can it be done in the Arena’s bins. The problem is that these cassettes, which can be seen in the pictures of Mr. Kahn, are standing one after the other, and looking to the same direction,And cover the same arc.
Your idea is very good and I like the metal storm idea, but can’t do it on the current Arena bins.
Keep in mind this is a model and no details have been released on the actual system.
Looking at the model again the bins mounted at the side appear to fire forward, while the bins at the rear appear to face sideways.
It is all together possible that this system might take advantage of improvements in MMW radar technology and might detect targets to greater range that will allow the system to turn the turret towards the threat as it approaches and that while it has 360 degree MMW radar coverage that the munitions only cover the front and sides...
Can't really say anything till we see the spec sheet at an arms show.
That's could be done no doubt, but you need to concentrate your stream and not spred it.
You concentrate if you lack power, you spread to hit a small fast moving target.
Think of it in terms of shooting animals... if you only have a small calibre rifle then you shoot the elephant as many times as you can as fast as you can. If the target is a flying bird however you pick the lightest pellet weight that will reliably bring it down and then you direct as many of those pellets as you can in its direction.
HEAT warheads are actually fairly fragile and you don't need particularly heavy fragments to damage it. That doesn't mean you make the fragment payload light... it means you get more fragments.
If it works like the old ARENA the fragments need to be effective over a very very short distance... we are talking about from about 6m in the air down to the ground so they can be very light but hard and moving very very fast.
Normally heavier fragments are better because they retain velocity better and are more useful from greater distances. If the effective flight path of the fragments is only 6m or so then it makes more sense to use light fragments and make them effective with more velocity... which makes it easier to pack more fragments in and cover a much wider area than with larger heavier fragments.
You right, but "get the force with you concentrate the stream."
You can get force with high velocity instead of more impacts in a concentrated frag group.
I don't knew but the american claymore (m-18) is 22cm long
Looking at the models again those bins are largely filled up... the question is are we looking at very large munitions, three to a bin, or are we looking at much smaller munitions that are stacked in three layers already?
Again... we can't really say for sure without further information.
the BMPT don't have the power of the 100mm gun. it will do a better with tanks, In urban aera I'll take the BMP-3 turret.
The BMPT based on the T-90 chassis was rejected. The BMP-3 turret is too vulnerable to enemy fire.
The model of an armata vehicle with a 120mm rifled gun/mortar, plus 23mm gatling gun, and 40/30mm grenade launcher would in my opinion be an ideal solution to the problem at hand.