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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  max steel on Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:30 pm

    Mindstorm wrote:
    "There's so much hype about 2S35, but in the end, it's nothing special about it... XM2001 done this, and probably more and better 15 years ago when first SPH was delivered for tests."



    Oh ,please   Razz  Razz  Razz

    A technically very badly conceived......and not surprisingly never realized......."dinosaur" system even only named in the same phrase with Коалиция-СВ, ostensibly what will represent, by a very far edge, the most advanced and efficient self propelled artillery at world for the next two or three decades at least, is madness in itself.

    Practically do not exist a single cardinal parameter ,for not say the features of Коалиция-СВ without even a true corresponding anywhere abroad, where XM2001 could remain even in the same league with Коалиция-СВ.  

    If any it show one more time what level of low level impudence can reach PR (or money....) influenced people, even more when keeping a deeply buried grudge and masked inferiority complex, in defending gold plated powerpoint garbage systems.      



    it is similar to the American M-109A6, or is it the A9? Both seems to have the same electronic, but from their own origins. The most newest is the computerized C3I-System in connection with GPS/GLONASS. And also the newest smart ammunition is part of it.
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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  Mike E on Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:47 pm

    XM2001;
    - Fires slower (max. 12 rpm)
    - Can't shoot as far (50 km vs 70)
    - Carries less rounds
    - Doesn't have microwave ignition propellants
    - Doesn't have modular propellants
    - Doesn't have radar-guided fuze shells. 
    - Was cancelled

    Etc etc 

    It's not in the same league, and anyone saying otherwise is uneducated or simply biased.
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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  Zivo on Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:49 pm

    Mike E wrote:XM2001;
    - Fires slower (max. 12 rpm)
    - Can't shoot as far (50 km vs 70)
    - Carries less rounds
    - Doesn't have microwave ignition propellants
    - Doesn't have modular propellants
    - Doesn't have radar-guided fuze shells. 
    - Was cancelled

    Etc etc 

    It's not in the same league, and anyone saying otherwise is uneducated or simply biased.

    ^ This

    XM2001 isn't even competing with the 2S35, it was competing for relevancy against the M109.
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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  TheArmenian on Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:35 pm

    The earlier seen video about Koalitsya, now with English subtitles:

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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  George1 on Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:27 pm

    Borisov: "Coalition-SV" after supplies to the army of the Russian Federation will have a great export potential

    Подробнее на ТАСС:
    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/3186176&usg=ALkJrhi8wW2tEj5Xhp8DVe-IAxOwC9wz0g


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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  George1 on Sun Apr 24, 2016 4:00 pm

    Russia's advanced self-propelled howitzer, the Koalitsiya- SV, is capable of firing high-precision shells, which are navigated using a GLONASS module, according to the Russian newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160424/1038522310/russia-gun-missile-satellite.html#ixzz46kTDzLLt


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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  chicken on Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:48 am

    George1 wrote:Russia's advanced self-propelled howitzer, the Koalitsiya- SV, is capable of firing high-precision shells, which are navigated using a GLONASS module, according to the Russian newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160424/1038522310/russia-gun-missile-satellite.html#ixzz46kTDzLLt

    It sounds like Dinamika?
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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:45 pm

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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:11 pm

    First known sighting of the wheeled version of Koalition:


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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  cracker on Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:20 pm

    sure it's not just a standard one on a road mover? The standard cheapo kamaz cabin makes no sense...
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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  0nillie0 on Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:25 pm

    cracker wrote:sure it's not just a standard one on a road mover? The standard cheapo kamaz cabin makes no sense...

    I think its meant as a joke, since you can see the chassis ( presumably 2S19, or perhaps new chassis? ) in that picture.
    Highlighted in picture below.

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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  Benya on Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:23 pm

    I think it's a Koalitsiya turret on its way to Uralvagonzavod, where it will be fitted onto an Armata chassis
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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  x_54_u43 on Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:14 pm

    Benya wrote:I think it's a Koalitsiya turret on its way to Uralvagonzavod, where it will be fitted onto an Armata chassis

    Actually no, it's a wheeled Koalitsiya platform, it's easy to tell with a larger photo.



    You can see the stabilizers.
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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:16 pm

    + on top of that, the turret would be much higher off the ground due to being on a tracked platform that is on top of the platform attached to the hitch. So in other words, yeah, this is indeed looking like a wheeled platform.
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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:57 pm


    Old concept art but looks pretty spot on. Personally, I would get a bigger truck just to be safe. Ideally one with armored cab.  

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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  Benya on Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:10 pm

    I think that this one is designed for coastal defense
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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  Benya on Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:35 pm

    The "wheeled Koalitsiya"was seen in Nizhny Novgorod a few days ago.

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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  Project Canada on Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:24 pm



    The new self-propelled gun "Coalition-SV" successfully tested

    NPK "Uralvagonzavod" (DC) is preparing a series production self-propelled artillery "Coalition-SV", told reporters on Wednesday the general director Oleg Siyenko.

    "Go test machine. Tests quite successful ", - said Siyenko, answering the question whether the supply of the" Coalition-SV "on exports planned. However, he noted that priority delivery of a new installation of the Russian army.

    Siyenko noted that in order to prepare series production of the new installation carried out a major modernization of production, including the plant number 9.

    Siyenko also said that the new installation is much better options compared to its predecessor - "MSTA-S" - including the range, rate of fire, road performance.

    Self-propelled artillery unit "Coalition-SV" - Russia's 152-mm self-propelled howitzer Brigadier level. "Thunderbird" is developed in Nizhny Novgorod Research Institute. SAU 2S35 is designed for the destruction of tactical nuclear weapons, artillery and mortar batteries, tanks and other armored vehicles, anti-tank weapons, manpower, facilities and missile air defense, command and control centers, as well as to destroy field fortifications and obstructing the maneuvers of enemy reserves.

    https://defence.ru/obichnie-vooruzheniia/novaya-samokhodka-koaliciya-sv-uspeshno-prokhodit-ispitaniya/
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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:52 pm

    Some very good news about Koalitsiya, some information has came out about many of it's capabilities:

    Perspective pattern RAV 152mm SG "Coalition - CB"
    Developer - CRI "Petrel", "Uraltransmash" Manufacturer - CRI "Petrel", "Uraltransmash" Assignment : Self-propelled howitzer 2S35 Brigadier level designed to destroy tactical means, artillery and mortar batteries, tanks and other armored vehicles, anti-tank weapons, manpower, air defense and missile defense command and control centers, as well as to destroy the fortifications and obstructing the maneuvers of enemy reserves in the depth of his defense.


    Tactical and technical characteristics:
    The crew - 2 (3) persons.
    The caliber and gun grade - 152 mm 2A88
    gun type - rifled Howitzer
    Barrel length - no more than 52 calibers
    Ammunition - 70 shots
    shooting range - up to 70 km
    Corners guidance, degrees
    horizontal - 360
    Vertical - 75
    Extra machine-gun armament - 1h12,7mm "Kord"
    engine - V-92S2
    engine type - diesel
    Location and number of cylinders of the engine - the V12
    engine power -. 1000l.s
    Displacement 38 880 cubic meters. see
    Engine cooling - fluid
    movement speed - up to 80 km / h
    Cruising range - 560 km
    Weight SG - no more than 48 tonnes

    https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgurkhan.blogspot.com%2F2016%2F09%2Fblog-post_13.html%23more&edit-text=&act=url

    Good news that it can hold 70 rounds, while the weight doesn't exceed 48 tons. Now that we know it wont exceed 48 tons, one of the obstacles for adding the second gun has been nearly eliminated, with the idea of a dual gun Koalisiya not being able to be moved by tactical airlift (due to weight). The real question would be is the additional expense and complexity of a second gun be warranted with the performance increase? Is the performance increase necessary? Time will tell.
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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  GarryB on Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:10 am

    Adding a second gun to a 152mm calibre artillery system makes little real sense.

    It would make the vehicle much heavier and bigger and add a lot of complication by adding an extra gun... beefing up the stabilisation and aiming systems and adding a further two linkless ammo feeds to supply ammo to the second gun.

    The only real advantage of a second gun is an increase in rate of fire, but it cheaper and easier to simply assign more vehicles to a target than lumber the chassis with the extra weight of another gun.

    the only time multiple guns is a good thing is in an anti aircraft weapon that relies on raw rate of fire to be effective... and even that is changing with guided shells making extra barrels redundant in larger calibre weapons.


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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  Neoprime on Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:17 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Some very good news about Koalitsiya, some information has came out about many of it's capabilities:

    Perspective pattern RAV 152mm SG "Coalition - CB"
    Developer - CRI "Petrel", "Uraltransmash" Manufacturer - CRI "Petrel", "Uraltransmash" Assignment : Self-propelled howitzer 2S35 Brigadier level designed to destroy tactical means, artillery and mortar batteries, tanks and other armored vehicles, anti-tank weapons, manpower, air defense and missile defense command and control centers, as well as to destroy the fortifications and obstructing the maneuvers of enemy reserves in the depth of his defense.


    Tactical and technical characteristics:
    The crew - 2 (3) persons.
    The caliber and gun grade - 152 mm 2A88
    gun type - rifled Howitzer
    Barrel length - no more than 52 calibers
    Ammunition - 70 shots
    shooting range - up to 70 km
    Corners guidance, degrees
    horizontal - 360
    Vertical - 75
    Extra machine-gun armament - 1h12,7mm "Kord"
    engine - V-92S2
    engine type - diesel
    Location and number of cylinders of the engine - the V12
    engine power -. 1000l.s
    Displacement 38 880 cubic meters. see
    Engine cooling - fluid
    movement speed - up to 80 km / h
    Cruising range - 560 km
    Weight SG - no more than 48 tonnes

    https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgurkhan.blogspot.com%2F2016%2F09%2Fblog-post_13.html%23more&edit-text=&act=url

    Good news that it can hold 70 rounds, while the weight doesn't exceed 48 tons. Now that we know it wont exceed 48 tons, one of the obstacles for adding the second gun has been nearly eliminated, with the idea of a dual gun Koalisiya not being able to be moved by tactical airlift (due to weight). The real question would be is the additional expense and complexity of a second gun be warranted with the performance increase? Is the performance increase necessary? Time will tell.

    I wonder what type of armor it has?
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    Russian 1st Guards Tank Army to receive 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV self-propelled howitzers

    Post  airstrike on Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:17 pm

    Russian 1st Guards Tank Army to receive 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV self-propelled howitzers

    http://echelon-defense.com/2016/10/22/russian-1st-guards-tank-army-to-receive-2s35-koalitsiya-sv-self-propelled-howitzers/
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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  George1 on Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:08 pm

    Russian Brigades to Receive Koalitsiya-SV Self-Propelled Gun Soon

    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/russia/201611181047569859-russia-koalitsiya-self-propelled-gun/


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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  Benya on Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:58 pm

    George1 wrote:Russian Brigades to Receive Koalitsiya-SV Self-Propelled Gun Soon

    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/russia/201611181047569859-russia-koalitsiya-self-propelled-gun/

    On Armata or modified T-90 chassis?
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    Re: 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV 152mm

    Post  Militarov on Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:38 pm

    Benya wrote:
    George1 wrote:Russian Brigades to Receive Koalitsiya-SV Self-Propelled Gun Soon

    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/russia/201611181047569859-russia-koalitsiya-self-propelled-gun/

    On Armata or modified T-90 chassis?

    T-90 for now from what i could figure out

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