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Ka-226 and Ansat-U

mutantsushi

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Post n°61

Re: Ka-226 and Ansat-U

mutantsushi Sat May 16, 2015 1:55 am

Well all this time during tender(s) with no sanctions on Russia, India was assessing it with French engines.
Klimov does list VK-800 as "500-800hp" so at the lower end it is just a perfect replacement.
Obviously in Ansat or whatever 800hp or more is going to be the goal.

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Re: Ka-226 and Ansat-U

Austin Sat May 16, 2015 5:21 pm

I doubt the Ka-226T is as bad the article claims to be

The Indian Light Utility Helicopter Procurement: where does the HAL LUH stand?

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Re: Ka-226 and Ansat-U

Cyberspec Sun May 24, 2015 6:57 am

Moscow. May 22. Interfax-AVN - New helicopter unit is formed as a part of 6991-th Russian Air Force Base deployed at Chkalovsky airfield near Moscow, said on Friday "Interfax-AVN" in the helicopter industry.

"The new squadron will be armed with 12 Ka-226B. Currently 10 machines have already been delivered," - said the agency interlocutor.
According to him, "the personnel of the squadron passed retraining on new equipment."
6991 Air Base - is the successor to the aircraft division of special purpose. Its aircraft recently completed the task of evacuating Russians from civil war-torn Yemen.

http://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=377242

Also...

Russian Helicopters Ka-226T receives IAC AR certification
http://www.verticalmag.com/news/article/RussianHelicoptersKa226TreceivesIACARcertification

Russian Helicopters' Ansat and Ka-226T enter the Russian commercial market
http://www.verticalmag.com/news/article/RussianHelicoptersAnsatandKa226TentertheRussiancommercialmar

Austin wrote:I doubt the Ka-226T is as bad the article claims to be

The Indian Light Utility Helicopter Procurement: where does the HAL LUH stand?

I'm no expert, but that post sounds like a hatchet job on the Ka-226, considering it outperformed it's rivals in the original tests and IMO is more versatile

The Ka-226T underwent testing in India as part of the Reconnaissance and Surveillance Helicopter (RSH) acquisition programme, which was cancelled by the Indian authorities in 2014. The helicopter out-performed its Western counterparts during flights in India's hot conditions and mountainous areas. The Ka-226T was demonstrated at Aero India 2015 exhibition held in Bangalore, India.

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/ka-226t-multi-mission-helicopter/

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Re: Ka-226 and Ansat-U

Werewolf Sun May 24, 2015 12:23 pm

Cyberspec wrote:

Moscow. May 22. Interfax-AVN - New helicopter unit is formed as a part of 6991-th Russian Air Force Base deployed at Chkalovsky airfield near Moscow, said on Friday "Interfax-AVN" in the helicopter industry.

"The new squadron will be armed with 12 Ka-226B. Currently 10 machines have already been delivered," - said the agency interlocutor.
According to him, "the personnel of the squadron passed retraining on new equipment."
6991 Air Base - is the successor to the aircraft division of special purpose. Its aircraft recently completed the task of evacuating Russians from civil war-torn Yemen.

http://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=377242

Also...

Russian Helicopters Ka-226T receives IAC AR certification
http://www.verticalmag.com/news/article/RussianHelicoptersKa226TreceivesIACARcertification

Russian Helicopters' Ansat and Ka-226T enter the Russian commercial market
http://www.verticalmag.com/news/article/RussianHelicoptersAnsatandKa226TentertheRussiancommercialmar

Austin wrote:I doubt the Ka-226T is as bad the article claims to be

The Indian Light Utility Helicopter Procurement: where does the HAL LUH stand?

I'm no expert, but that post sounds like a hatchet job on the Ka-226, considering it outperformed it's rivals in the original tests and IMO is more versatile

The Ka-226T underwent testing in India as part of the Reconnaissance and Surveillance Helicopter (RSH) acquisition programme, which was cancelled by the Indian authorities in 2014. The helicopter out-performed its Western counterparts during flights in India's hot conditions and mountainous areas. The Ka-226T was demonstrated at Aero India 2015 exhibition held in Bangalore, India.

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/ka-226t-multi-mission-helicopter/

Because this is one of the indians that is a die hard inidian patriot paired with Pro USA crap, all his "analysis" are tailored in advances to have an outcome favored for a specific aircraft. That guy has so much of genuine intentions of a fair comperision and evaluation like a lobbyist for Monsanto.

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Post n°65

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George1 Sat Jul 04, 2015 2:09 pm

The date for starting mass production of Ka-226T helicopter in Russia was set

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George1 Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:29 pm

Putin instructed to finalize the product line of the helicopter "ANSAT"

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George1 Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:47 pm

Supply of 40 "Ansat-U" helicopters to the Russian Air Force to be completed in 2016

Ka-226 and Ansat-U - Page 3 2364416_original

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George1 Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:54 pm

"Helicopters of Russia" develop SAR version of "Ansat"

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George1 Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:27 pm

Ministry of Industry: "ANSAT" helicopter must get a Russian engine

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George1 Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:54 pm

VIP-certified helicopter modification "ANSAT"

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George1 Sun May 22, 2016 1:09 am

"Technodynamics" develops engines for light helicopters

Holding "Τechnodynamics" State Corporation "Rostec" on May 20, 2016 during the exhibition Helirussia-2016 announced the start of work on the family of the main engines for the TD-700 light helicopters in Moscow. They are expected to replace the existing engines manufactured by Pratt & Whitney and Turbomeca helicopter "ANSAT" and Ka-226T.

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1914658.html

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sepheronx Sun May 22, 2016 1:17 am

If this is the case, then these engines may end up what is needed for Ka-60?

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Post n°73

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GarryB Sun May 22, 2016 8:03 am

The engines for Ka-60 were in the 1,300hp power range, so these engines are a little small.

they were talking about developing a whole new family range of engines for helicopters and transport aircraft from very big to small... and they have clearly developed very small engines for various cruise missile designs too.

I suspect they know what they are doing.

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TheArmenian Sun May 22, 2016 8:16 am

sepheronx wrote:If this is the case, then these engines may end up what is needed for Ka-60?

Nope. These are too small and don't create enough power for the Ka-60.
Try again.

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Werewolf Sun May 22, 2016 6:46 pm

They would need something like VK-1700 series of engines, but way to go to market such product which they have showed little interest to research and produce such product yet. Slim market share for such engines Klimov has that is why they are not gambling on such class of helicopters.

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sepheronx Sun May 22, 2016 7:27 pm

Werewolf wrote:They would need something like VK-1700 series of engines, but way to go to market such product which they have showed little interest to research and produce such product yet. Slim market share for such engines Klimov has that is why they are not gambling on such class of helicopters.

Makes sense. Thanks.

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George1 Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:37 am

Plans for the organization of the production of the Ka-226T helicopters in Ulan-Ude

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2345926.html

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George1 Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:14 am

The Russian Ministry of Defense ordered ten more Ansat-U helicopters

According to the information posted on the state purchases website, on June 5, 2017, the Russian Defense Ministry concluded a contract with PJSC Kazan Helicopter Plant (KVZ, part of the Russian Helicopters JSC) for the supply of ten Ansat-U training helicopters. The cost of the contract is 2.075438 billion rubles. The delivery should be made by December 31, 2017.

On the bmpd side, we recall that to date the Russian Ministry of Defense has purchased 40 Ansat-U helicopters (alleged serial numbers from 33028 to 33067). Under the first contract, the KVZ supplied the Russian Air Force with eight Ansat-U helicopters, including six in 2009 and two in 2010. Then, on March 1, 2011, the Ministry of Defense signed a contract with KVZ to supply 32 Ansat-U vehicles starting from 2011. The contract price of one Ansat-U helicopter under this contract was 127.72246 million rubles without VAT. Under this contract, five Ansat-U helicopters were delivered by the Russian Air Force in 2011, six in 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015, and three in 2016.

Of the delivered Ansat-U helicopters, the first three helicopters (28, 29 and 30 onboard numbers) built in 2009 are located in the training center of the army aviation in Torzhok, and 37 more vehicles have been included in the training aviation group since 2010 At the airfield Sokol (Saratov region) Syzran branch of the military educational and scientific center VKS "Air Force Academy named after professor NE Zhukovsky and YA Gagarin" (onboard numbers from "31.") In 2015, two helicopters Ansat "U" were transferred from Syzran to the 800th Special Purpose Air Base (now the 8th Aviation Ion task division) in the suburban airfield Tchkalovsky, then succeeding board numbers from "59" and "60" for respectively "259" and "260".

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2717487.html

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Post n°79

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Singular_Transform Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:24 am

Cost of Bell 429 is 7.5 million USD.

Means the "helicopter exchange rate" is 26 rouble for one dollar.

However Slovakia paid 150 million for 9 pcs of Bell 429.

That is full package, it means 16.66 million usd unit price.

that means 12 RUB/USD exchange rate.

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/183289/slovakia-cleared-to-buy-nine-bell-429-helos-for-%24150m.html

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Rodion_Romanovic Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:35 pm

GarryB wrote:The engines for Ka-60 were in the 1,300hp power range, so these engines are a little small.

they were talking about developing a whole new family range of engines for helicopters and transport aircraft from very big to small... and they have clearly developed very small engines for various cruise missile designs too.

I suspect they know what they are doing.

Is there any news on this class of engines?

And what about the VK-800?

10 years ago it was..."close to certification"...

Is it a dead project and it will be instead replaced by something else?

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/83601/russia’s-klimov-unveils-affordable-turboshaft.html

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George1 Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:40 pm

Zhukovsky & Gagarin Academy of the Airforce(VVA) in Voronezh(ZVO) received 5 new Ansat-U trainer helicopters:

http://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12149104@egNews

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d_taddei2 Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:48 pm

Russian Helicopters begins hot climate trials in Pakistan of Ansat helicopter

http://www.janes.com/article/75379/russian-helicopters-begins-hot-climate-trials-in-pakistan-of-ansat-helicopter?utm_campaign=PC6110_E17%20DF%20NL%20Airforces%2007_11_17&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Eloqua

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AMCXXL Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:02 pm

George1 wrote:Zhukovsky & Gagarin Academy of the Airforce(VVA) in Voronezh(ZVO) received 5 new Ansat-U trainer helicopters:

http://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12149104@egNews

"As a result of the acceptance of the equipment, the helicopters will enter the training aviation base of the Air Force Academy stationed in the Saratov región"

In Voronezh is the Factory pf VASO and also is the University of Aeromautical Engeniering
The research institutions are not part of military districts of the Air Force

The destination of this 5 helicopters is probably for the 626º UVP (Учебные Вертолеты Полк = Helicopter Teaching/Training Regiment ) located in Pugachev (Sarátov oblast) , part of the Syrizan military aviation Institute

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Post n°84

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PapaDragon Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:39 pm

Two naval Ka-226 delivered to customer

https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/101718/

They don't elaborate but I assume that these two helos are for Coast Guard?

Can anyone clarify?

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Post n°85

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medo Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:42 am

Most probably they are for Coast Guard 22460 patrol ships.

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