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    2023 Israel–Hamas war #4

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    Post  thegopnik Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:55 am

    https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1775221666244669554
    Russia established a special force base against Israel on the Israeli border, Golan.
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    Post  ahmedfire Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:43 am

    JohninMK wrote:Not sure how anyone can argue that this attack was not deliberate or a mistake.
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    The World Central Kitchen, an international food charity announced Tuesday that it is halting aid operations after a U.S.-sponsored Israeli airstrike slaughtered 7 aid workers which included Foreign Nationals. Despite coordination with the Occupation Forces the convoy was hit as it was leaving the Deir al-Balah warehouse.


    Not a mistake , IDF is coordinating with WCK and knows all their updated locations , their cars are not moving until the coordination done and confirmed from IDF side .

    The zionists want to stop all the humanitarian aids from entering Gaza but by using indirect way.

    Meanwhile the white house for sure said israel is angel.

    The European bitch didn't even mention israel .

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    Post  Hole Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:32 pm

    Still no sanctions from the beacons of Democracy and Human Rights, the US and EU.
    Or Canada. Or Australia.
    Still no indictment from the ICC for Nazinjahoo.
    Well, not surprising. No western country will bribe the judges this time.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:10 pm

    This is really worrying. Lots of good comments in the thread linked at bottom.

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    This is without a doubt one of the most important pieces of reporting on Gaza, and by far one of the most disturbing: https://972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/


    All by Israeli journalist @yuval_abraham
    based on whistleblower accounts from within the IDF and intelligence agencies.

    Israel has developed an AI called "Lavender" to generate kill lists, with almost no human verification to double check the targets selected by the machine: only a a “rubber stamp” check of about “20 seconds” just to make sure the AI target is male.

    Moreover, the Israeli army "systematically attacked the targeted individuals while they were in their homes — usually at night while their whole families were present — rather than during the course of military activity". In fact Israel developed another automated system called “Where’s Daddy?” used "specifically to track the targeted individuals and carry out bombings when they had entered their family’s residences" 🤮

    One of the intelligence officers who spoke to Abraham is quoted in the article: “We were not interested in killing [Hamas] operatives only when they were in a military building or engaged in a military activity. On the contrary, the IDF bombed them in homes without hesitation, as a first option. It’s much easier to bomb a family’s home. The system is built to look for them in these situations.”

    In fact the article reveals a ratio, I think for the first time: "according to two of the sources, the army also decided during the first weeks of the war that, for every junior Hamas operative that Lavender marked, it was permissible to kill up to 15 or 20 civilians... The sources added that, in the event that the target was a senior Hamas official with the rank of battalion or brigade commander, the army on several occasions authorized the killing of more than 100 civilians in the assassination of a single commander."

    A ratio of 20 civilians killed for one target works out to about 95% civilian deaths.

    Please do read the whole article as it describes in details how the whole process works with the Lavender AI. It's industrialized extermination the likes of which we haven't seen since... you know when.

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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Apr 04, 2024 5:25 am

    @kvs: "democracy" in Canada

    https://peoplesdispatch.org/2024/04/03/palestine-solidarity-protesters-attacked-by-police-in-toronto/

    Palestine solidarity protesters attacked by police in Toronto

    During a Land Day mobilization in Toronto, protesters were brutally repressed by Canadian police on horseback
    April 03, 2024 by Natalia Marques


    On March 30, during a peaceful mass mobilization for Land Day, Palestine solidarity protesters in Toronto were barricaded and beaten by police on horseback.

    “This was not policing. This was premeditated, pre-planned police brutality against our fellow Canadians,” said Gur Tsabar of the Jews Say No to Genocide Coalition, in a speech following March 30.

    Tsabar claims that militarized police on horseback moved in to stop an entirely peaceful demonstration, which they then surrounded. “And it’s not just a single line of police officers,” he said. “We were greeted by multiple lines of police officers and mounted police on horses fitted with visors who not only closed off the street in front of us, but also the sidewalks in front of us, so we could not move forward.”

    Tsabar says that police then brutally arrest a passerby, who was “racially profiled by the police as a Palestinian.”

    “He is cuffed and shaking and as he’s forced to the ground, and already being handled, an officer can be seen brutally pushing him to the ground as more officers then pile onto him,” Tsabar describes.

    Soon after, following a second arrest, mayhem breaks loose and “officers approach the line from every which direction,” Tsabar says.

    Videos taken from the March show a protester beaten and bloody as he is arrested on the ground by police, as well as protesters shoved against metal poles and thrown to the ground by police.

    “They are pushing and pulling and yanking protestors and slamming them onto the ground over rows of bikes, they are grabbing people every which possible way, including by the neck, people were bloodied and hurt, people had to be sent to the hospital. And then as if on cue—the mounted police on gigantic horses come straight down side by side on Parliament trampling people left and right.”

    Four protesters had to be sent to the hospital, with several others monitoring themselves for possible concussions, according to a statement from the Palestinian Youth Movement, Toronto chapter.

    “The Toronto Police Service has been consistent in their attempts to intimidate and suppress pro-Palestinian protests, using violence and arrests to scare people into silence. They have attempted to criminalize people protesting against this genocide,” said Dalia Awwad, a member of the Palestinian Youth Movement, Toronto chapter. “The TPS has violently raided peoples’ homes at dawn, and are now not only publicly brutalizing protesters but also passersby whom they have racially profiled as Palestinians.”

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    Post  Hole Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:21 am

    an AI 
    There is no AI.  Rolling Eyes

    We were not interested in killing [Hamas] operatives
    They declare anyone to be working for Hamas or supporting them.

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    Post  ahmedfire Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:27 pm

    West is already corrupted but still nice from Bassem to speak up about western propaganda .

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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:58 am

    https://peoplesdispatch.org/2024/03/27/whats-really-behind-germanys-unshakeable-support-of-israel/

    What’s really behind Germany’s unshakeable support of Israel?

    To understand Germany’s unconditional support for the Israeli genocide, one must understand the origins of the German state

    The extent of the German government’s support for Israel during its ongoing offensive in Gaza has taken many by surprise. German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has been even more restrained in his criticisms of Tel Aviv than US President Joe Biden. A central point of reference for German politicians is the notion of Staatsräson (“state reason”). This was a term first coined in an essay by Germany’s former ambassador to Israel, Rudolf Dreßler, in the early 2000s and repeated by Angela Merkel in a speech before the Knesset in 2008. It has since become a centerpiece of German public statements and an ideological tool to legitimize Israel’s “right to self-defense”. As Scholz said on 12 October 2023: “At this moment there is only one place for Germany. We stand with Israel. …This is what we mean when we say, Israel’s security is Germany’s Staatsräson.”

    The Federal Republic of Germany (FRG, commonly referred to as “West Germany” during the Cold War) was founded in May 1949. In a similar way to South Korea and Taiwan, the FRG was created after the Second World War under the wing of the USA to act as a bulwark against socialism. As a central actor in the West’s “containment” and “rollback” strategies, the West German state had to be both aggressive towards the socialist East and docile towards the capitalist West. The influence of the corporations that had funded Hitler was thus intentionally restored and the businessmen with ties to the Nazi party were unofficially pardoned for their role in fascist Germany’s crimes against humanity, despite often directly profiting from forced labor during the Third Reich (e.g., Daimler, Siemens, Rheinmetall, etc.). At the same time, the FRG was tightly bound into the US-led order through the Marshall Plan and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), which to this day includes the stationing of tens of thousands of US troops in Germany.

    The leaders of the young FRG were immediately confronted with the problem of how to publicly address the Holocaust. Pictures of concentration camp inmates sent shock waves around the world and gave rise to the international call: Never again! Yet domestically, West Germany could not afford a thorough denazification of society, for this would destabilize the capitalist basis of the FRG as it had done in East Germany, where Nazi war criminals and businessmen had been rigorously expropriated. Thus, rather than addressing the economic roots of fascism and prosecuting sections of the ruling class for abetting Hitler, conservatives and liberals in the FRG fostered a narrative of collective German guilt that all citizens would have to atone for. It was not capitalism and the liberal system of the Weimar Republic (1918-1933) that had enabled the rise of fascism, but the cultural propensities of the German people.

    In this election poster from 1949, the Liberal Democratic party (FDP) – today a member of the governing coalition in Germany – lists an “End to Denazification” as its first demand. https://peoplesdispatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Germanelection-poster-FDP.jpg

    This political strategy has been evident in West Germany’s support for the state of Israel, which had been founded one year prior to the FRG. The first West German chancellor, Konrad Adenauer, had publicly described the FRG’s first reparation agreement with Israel in 1952 as being “based on a compelling moral obligation”. In the face of domestic criticism over the three-billion-marks agreement – particularly from the Liberal Democratic party (FDP) and from his own Christian Democratic Union party (CDU) – Adenauer announced that “there are higher values than good business.” Yet, recently uncovered documents from the German Foreign Office reveal that Adenauer was in fact only “willing to negotiate reparations [with Israel] due to pressure from the USA”. The chancellor had referred to West Germany’s relationship with the USA and said that “breaking off negotiations with Israel without results would create the most serious political and economic dangers for the Federal Republic”.

    In other words, it was stipulated by the USA that if the FRG wanted to become a powerful player in European politics again, it would have to provide significant political, economic, and military support to the state of Israel. While there was considerable domestic discontent over this precondition in the beginning, the leaders of the FRG have come to appreciate relations with Israel as conducive to their own interests, both in terms of geopolitical strategy and profitable ventures for German industries.

    For instance, arms sales to Israel have skyrocketed in recent years; Siemens regularly profits from Israeli contracts, such as the 2018 tender by Israel Railways that was worth roughly one billion euros; and German drugmaker Merck (the founding family of which were staunch Nazis) also maintains research sites and projects worth millions across Israel. In the face of horrific images coming out of Palestine, the German media will justify the export of arms and capital to Israel by uncritically repeating the official government line: “In the past, Germany has above all supplied submarines to Israel and also subsidized exports with taxpayers’ money. The background to this is that Germany has declared Israel’s security to be Staatsräson in view of the murder of six million Jews by Nazi Germany.”

    Concepts such as Staatsräson and collective German guilt have thus been developed as ideological instruments to both deflect responsibility from the German capitalist class for Nazi war crimes in the past and disguise the brutal pursuit of their economic and political interests in West Asia in the present day. This helps the German government to create extremely narrow confines for the public debate around these policies. Since October 7, Staatsräson has also been employed to drastically intensify anti-migrant measures. The most brazen of these is perhaps a new decree in the state of Saxony-Anhalt, where applicants for German citizenship will now have to pledge allegiance to Israel’s “right to exist”.

    The Federal Republic of Germany stands in the tradition of German capitalism, with all of the skeletons hiding in its closet. Its unconditional support for Israel is the product of, on the one hand, self-seeking economic and geopolitical interests in the region and, on the other, the effort to deflect responsibility for the holocaust and the unwillingness to denazify West German society. The other Germany – the German Democratic Republic (GDR) – stood in a very different tradition. It was governed by the communists and social democrats that had languished in exile or Hitler’s concentration camps during the Third Reich. There, the demand “Never again!” was understood not as collective guilt to be carried by all Germans, but as a militant duty to combat fascism and racism, regardless of the specific form they took. As such, the GDR was a staunch support for the Palestinian’s right to self-determination and resistance to occupation.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Apr 05, 2024 6:16 pm

    🇮🇱/🇯🇴 NEW: Yesterday, a Jordanian soldier crossed the Jordan river, opened fire on an IDF patrol & returned safely to Jordan

    https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/5826

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    Post  nomadski Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:23 am

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64244107

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66768351

    These dead aid workers ( many more in previous years in different countries ) were also white . But no calls then to stop arms shipments to Ukraine or attempts at stopping war for humanitarian reasons ! I think they are just using this incident to hide their true motives behind calls for arms embargo against their ally . Yes it is the strike on Iran Embassy , and looking at  apocalypse . But they can not admit this to be the reason , that would be defeatist or alarmist !
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:31 pm

    Scott Ritter: Attacks on consulate, aid convoy show that Israel thinks it’s ‘above the law’

    “In the span of a week, the world has witnessed two wanton violations of international law and the norms and standards of civilized nations by the state of Israel,” former UN weapons inspector and international affairs commentator Scott Ritter told Sputnik, commenting on Monday’s twin attacks against the Iranian Embassy in Damascus, and World Central Kitchen aid workers in Gaza.

    The Damascus attack appeared to target high-ranking IRGC officers, “but the fact that Israel views these officers as legitimate targets doesn’t give them the permission to violate the protections that are afforded to these structures. Diplomatic immunity is a reality, and these buildings (consulates, embassies), are afforded inviolability, protection of international law, and Israel opted to violate this,” Ritter said.

    The consequences of the attack “have yet to be fully borne out…but based on Israel’s own reaction and anticipation could be quite severe. And this could throw not just the region but the world into chaos, turmoil and conflict, all because Israel decided that it could operate above the law,” the observer warned.

    As for the WCK attack, Ritter alleged that the aid workers were targeted because “their work is not conducive to the overarching Israeli policy of depopulation” in Gaza.

    “The consequences of this action were clear. Almost immediately, ships filled with humanitarian aid turned around and refused to offload their life-sustaining cargos in Gaza out of fear of being attacked by Israel,” he said.

    “These crimes will continue so long as Israel is allowed to operate without any consequences – so long as the United States continues to provide diplomatic cover for Israel in the Security Council of the United Nations – so long as the world is willing to turn a blind eye to the crimes committed by the government of Benjamin Netanyahu,” Ritter emphasized.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:09 pm

    Issued by Al-Qassam Brigades: Al-Qassam fighters managed to target 3 Zionist Merkava tanks with Al-Yassin 105 shells. As soon as the rescue forces advanced to the location and reached the center of a pre-prepared minefield, they were targeted with 3 anti-personnel explosive devices. Our fighters confirmed the killing of 6 Zionist soldiers, turning them into pieces, and causing another number to be killed or injured. The event is still ongoing in the Zanna area, east of Khan Yunis city, south of the Gaza Strip.

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    Post  ahmedfire Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:32 am


    Shocking the western media .

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    Post  ahmedfire Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:39 am

    I have no words to describe the zionists terrorism . Sick cold blood killers .




    More 4 terrorists were killed yesterday .

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:41 pm

    Today we have seen:
    - A multitude of Yemeni operations against ships in the Red Sea
    - Sirens in "Eilat"
    - A partial IOF withdrawal from Gaza (just one brigade remains)
    - Immediate rocket fire from the areas the IOF withdrew from.
    - Intense rocket fire from Lebanon.

    And still we await the Iranian response 🔥


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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:48 am

    https://peoplesdispatch.org/2024/04/07/palestinian-prisoner-walid-daqqah-dies-in-israeli-occupation-prison/

    Palestinian prisoner Walid Daqqah dies in Israeli occupation prison

    The Palestinian revolutionary spent 38 years in occupation prisons and was suffering from terminal bone marrow cancer and lung disease


    After spending 38 years imprisoned by the Israeli occupation, the Palestinian revolutionary organizer and thinker, Walid Daqqah died at age 62. Daqqah was diagnosed with bone marrow cancer in December 2022 and also suffered from chronic lung disease. Activists and left groups maintain that Daqqah was killed by intentional medical neglect by Israeli prison authorities.

    According to a statement released by Amnesty International less than a month ago calling for his release, “Since 7 October 2023, Walid Daqqah has been tortured, humiliated, denied family visits and has faced further medical neglect. During this period, he was transferred to hospital twice due to health deterioration.”

    In the last year, Palestinian left groups and human rights organizations had intensified efforts to demand Daqqah’s release due to the systematic denial to adequate medical care by the Israeli occupation prison services. Additionally, Daqqah finished his original 37-year sentence in March 2023, but his release was blocked because in 2018 Israeli authorities charged him with attempting to smuggle mobile phones into prison and sentenced him for two more years in prison, knowing he was terminally ill.

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    Post  ahmedfire Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:49 am


    Hamas in an official statement:

    - The Hamas delegation arrives in Cairo and meets with Mr. Abbas Kamel, the Egyptian Minister of Intelligence.

    Hebrew source:

    - Egyptian mediators: “The withdrawal of forces from Khan Yunis comes in preparation for the agreement that is being worked on.”

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:41 pm

    🇮🇱🇵🇸 Israel ends the active phase of the operation in the Gaza Strip and withdraws almost all its troops from there - The Jerusalem Post

    Only the 933rd Nahal Infantry Brigade will remain on the territory of the Palestinian enclave, which will guard the conditional “Netzarim corridor” - the demarcation line from the Gaza border with Israel to the Mediterranean coast, cutting the enclave in two.

    In this regard, the previously announced IDF operation to storm the city of Rafah in southern Gaza is being postponed, which the US authorities demanded from Israel, threatening serious consequences. Apparently, the Israeli leadership, directly dependent on US military assistance, was forced to agree to American demands to suspend the war.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:45 pm

    National Security Minister warns Netanyahu will lose premiership if he ends Gaza war without Rafah offensive

    “If the prime minister decides to end the war without a large-scale offensive in Rafah to defeat Hamas, he will not have a mandate to continue serving as prime minister,” Ben Gvir wrote on X.

    The timing of the statement coincides with the start of Egyptian-led cease-fire and hostage release talks. Some observers have expressed cautious optimism that negotiations may finally bear fruit.

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    Post  nomadski Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:44 am


    Is the solution , what we see before our eyes ? The cause of this decades long war , is still there . People going back to Gaza , will create the same or worse conditions . At the end of WW2 , Jewish migration into Palestine , was seen as a solution . The powers that be , saw mass movement of people , as a solution . Of course we know now , that the entire project was temporary fix . Hamas says , they want to go back to Gaza ! They wanted a two state solution , including the status of Jerusalem . The two people can not mix and live together . They are from very different traditions , the European white Jews , transplanted among Muslim middle Eastern , olive skinned people . They don't marry , they don't live next to each other .

    Neither a one state , nor a two state solution is the answer . Even an ethnic Jewish state without any Palestinians is not viable . The Egyptians should open the border . The Arab and Muslim states should accept the Palestinians that leave , as own citizens . The West Bank Palestinians given the same choice . In this way the Palestinians are saved from war and genocide . The future will decide , if this territory can be shared or not . Most probably not . The Jewish state facing endless conflict and destruction . They will have to leave too . Heading to Europe and America , to save themselves . The solution is , what we see before our eyes .




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    Post  jhelb Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:56 am

    ahmedfire wrote:More 4 terrorists were killed yesterday .

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    Were they really killed or is this more jewish fake news? Their dead bodies are rarely found by Palestinian fighters.
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    Post  ahmedfire Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:00 am

    Last week Al-Qassam showed scenes from the Al-Zana ambush east of Khan Yunis

    Setting a trap to some zionists and killing 4 soldiers .

    https://twitter.com/ashrafnsier/status/1777690118565839179

    Bullets in a$$ is painful yeah What a Face , see what happen when you face real warriors instead of dropping bombs on babies ?

    https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1777787176052212172

    2023 Israel–Hamas war #4 - Page 22 Cccbdu10

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