I don't expect those trans-Atlantic cruises- cheaper to send N/AF planes to land bases there & large surface ships & subs, as before. The Adm. K can come out of the Med. Sea & rendezvous with escorts near Gibraltar, if need be.
Why bother sending anything to the med?
It is a NATO lake.... just like the Black Sea is a Russian lake... no naval grouping Russia could send to the med could ever cope with the amount of aircraft NATO could send against them there... too many bottlenecks and not really much worth visiting anyway... and access via Turkey controlled straights is hardly something to rely upon.
Their focus for expansion is the far east and the arctic, which suggests expansion of the northern fleet and pacific fleets makes the most sense and would be the ideal places to base carrier groups most of the time.
The VMF had its share of accidents & I won't blame them if they r extra careful. But others will make fun of it.
You can call them idiots if they keep doing what they used to do they way they used to do after an accident occurs.
Idiots are not people who have accidents... idiots are people who do not learn from accidents or mistakes... you know like regime change policies that kill millions and allow your stated enemies to gain real footholds in countries that were formerly indifferent to them...
potential problems, & given the past history, highly probable at that.
You are not getting it... if they had problems and then didn't operate with more support vessels in case such problems happened again then I agree... call them idiots.
I rather suspect after a few collisions of US ships with civilian cargo vessels that the US Navy will take quite a few steps to ensure it stops happening... but why wouldn't they? That is the sensible thing to do isn't it?
If northern CSG will be created then its main task will be protection of Russian SSBNs bastions not chasing US ones.
Having a CSG to show your enemy where your SSBNs are and all they need to do is direct a couple of SLBMs to shower the area with 10-20 nuke warheads to damage or disable your SSBNs is not a great move really.
They have SSNs for that.
Any Russian Surface action group should be looking for any strategic nuclear weapon or weapon platform nearby that it can kill, whether it is a cruise missile or B-2 flying past, or ICBM or SLBM warheads going over head. If it spots an SSBN, then by all means attack but do you really think the US will base any SSBNs in the arctic ocean? Can american SSBNs even launch SLBMs or cruise missiles through icesheets?
Remaining 1-2 wil be roaming somewhere for dick waving/colonial wars and not countering if USN too.
If that is what you think they will be doing then you are right... they are an expensive and pointless waste of time and money.
If, however, the Pacific based carrier surface group travels around the pacific... asia, central and south america, pacific islands and perhaps india on longer voyages, while the Northern fleet group could patrol the northern sea route and go down beside greenland down past dragon country to central and south america... cuba and venezuela and african countries too for visits to promote trade and cooperation, then it would make rather more sense.
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I actually really like that concept
This ship have a very good design for hunting submarines.
It also must be cheap as fuck. It's empty, weapons are basic. It reminds me the heli carrier/landing ship of phillipines that is somewhere near 50 million a piece but very usefull.
But this one has everything to counter subs. They should build two or three for tge pacific and north.
Look again... it is totally empty... the bridge area is hollow and used to store aircraft... there would be no command area. Based on the shape of the front there would be no room for propulsion and an internal hangar, let alone fuel and weapons for the aircraft.
Great for a Lego design, but pretty useless for a real combat vessel.
Never ending peddling of the notion that Russia is broke, has no use for carriers, cannot build anything and should throw themselves out the window, in the hopes that the negativism and loser mentality they instil sinks in and even Russians think they should not allow their government to spend scarce rubles in such lost causes as rebuilding the navy.
Indeed... a pro US anti Russian website suggests something... why would anyone think it could possibly be in Russian interests to listen to those
This proposal with China building the ships can be summed up as "Russia cannot do it so better leave it to others", in the end just one more in an endless list of fake "reasonable and well-intentioned proposals" from the West.
To which the first words would be... they have never tried to build a carrier and failed before, and how are they going to get any better at building ships if they give contracts for ship building to foreign countries?
They tried to sell the Storm CVN to India so they could afford 1 for themselves.
Listen to what you are saying... a company in Russia that wants to make a carrier offered to sell the design to India so they could also sell the idea to the Russian navy and make two carriers or more.
That is not the same as Russia wanting India to build a carrier so they could save money and order one at the same time to get their own one built.
If their yards r busy/not ready & $ can be saved by outsourcing, why not? They could get a 70-80K Ton CV hull a lot sooner & outfit it with their own systems, while refitting old CGNs, DDGs, SSGNs, & building new ships/subs. The PD-14 that sunk was built in Sweden; they can swallow their pride for expediency, if need be.
Having the Adm. K + 2 new TAKR/CVs will ensure that 1 of them is available for training/deployment most of the time.
Russia has no practical use for a 70K ton carrier right now, nor in the next 4-5 years... where would they base it? What ships would operate with it? What would they actually do with it?
There is no hurry for a new carrier... getting the Chinese to build one is just silly talk.
Why hand over the best carrier design they can manage right now at a time when China is finding its own way in that regard?
Would be better to finalise a new design with fairly radical design that suits their needs and then ask China if they want a similar design too... the way the french did it with Mistral, except actually delivering payed for ships rather than screwing their customer at the last second on the orders of Washington...