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    Post  PapaDragon Wed May 06, 2020 6:57 pm

    Yaroslav Mudrii in Kaliningrad after escorting Akademik Cherskiy

    People say this ship was dead end but it looks to be like it's more than earning his keep (tour in Syria, anti-piracy ops, patrols all over the planet and now escorting pipelayer)

    Overhauling it was definitely money well spent

    Do we have news on it's sister ship (Neustrashimyy)? I heard it's being fixed up as well

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu May 07, 2020 2:35 am

    The Neustrashimyy class was a good design considering its late CW origins, and IMHO a big improvement on the Krivaks (especially the Mudry with her Urans). There might only be two completed units, but that was more to do with the demise of the USSR, not any weaknesses in the design. Calling them "dead ends" sounds a lot like the usual dismissal of Russian miltech by biased Western writers.

    The Neustrashimy is AFAIK still tied up at the Baltiysk shipyard, Google earth image from Mar 2020

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu May 07, 2020 6:29 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:...The Neustrashimy is AFAIK still tied up at the Baltiysk shipyard, Google earth image from Mar 2020

    I can't tell if they are working on it or they just left it there to rot

    Do they plan on getting it back into service?



    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:...Anyway, it is a 40 years old antisub patrol ship, but it can still be useful for a few years until a proper replacement is built (either a proper frigate or even an antisub version of project 22160 patrol ship).

    There will be no anti-sub version of 22160, Steregushi class seems to be go-to solution for anti-sub procurement

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu May 07, 2020 11:51 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:...The Neustrashimy is AFAIK still tied up at the Baltiysk shipyard, Google earth image from Mar 2020

    I can't tell if they are working on it or they just left it there to rot

    Do they plan on getting it back into service?

    They certainly seem to be working on her, but just as with the Pr.1155 Shaposnikov and Chabanenko, progress seems to be glacial, a bit like watching a kettle boil...

    I think this pic shows progress around May 2019.  Main radar replaced, hull painted, various equip refits/repairs underway. Best I can tell they are saying she will rejoin the Baltic fleet in 2020.

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri May 08, 2020 1:06 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:...They certainly seem to be working on her, but just as with the Pr.1155 Shaposnikov and Chabanenko, progress seems to be glacial, a bit like watching a kettle boil...

    I think this pic shows progress around May 2019. Main radar replaced, hull painted, various equip refits/repairs underway. Best I can tell they are saying she will rejoin the Baltic fleet in 2020.

    That looks better than expected

    Hopefully they slap it together this year, having another warship on the roster can only be a good thing

    Considering how much juice they have been getting out of Yaroslav Mudrii this one definitely has potential to it



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    Post  Isos Fri May 08, 2020 1:17 am

    When you see what the british send to escort russian ships, it makes this class look like gold ships.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri May 08, 2020 4:34 am

    Hopefully they slap it together this year, having another warship on the roster can only be a good thing
    "It is expected that Undaunted will be handed over to the fleet in mid-2020," the source said. Before returning to combat duty, the ship will undergo all types of sea trials.
    Undaunted began major repairs at the Baltic Yantar Shipyard (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation) in 2014.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri May 08, 2020 5:15 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:Considering how much juice they have been getting out of Yaroslav Mudrii this one definitely has potential to it

    Yeah, I was hoping they would fit Urans to Neustrashimy like the Mudry but no sign so far. I wonder why, given Urans would be ideal for Baltic sea ops.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri May 08, 2020 5:56 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:Considering how much juice they have been getting out of Yaroslav Mudrii this one definitely has potential to it

    Yeah, I was hoping they would fit Urans to Neustrashimy like the Mudry but no sign so far. I wonder why, given Urans would be ideal for Baltic sea ops.

    Strapping on Urans should not be hard at all and there's still time to do it

    It doesn't require any modifications to the structure and they already did it once before so there are no possible surprises

    It will probably be last thing on the list



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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat May 09, 2020 2:49 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:Considering how much juice they have been getting out of Yaroslav Mudrii this one definitely has potential to it

    Yeah, I was hoping they would fit Urans to Neustrashimy like the Mudry but no sign so far.  I wonder why, given Urans would be ideal for Baltic sea ops.

    Strapping on Urans should not be hard at all and there's still time to do it

    It doesn't require any modifications to the structure and they already did it once before so there are no possible surprises

    It will probably be last thing on the list

    On the Mudry there is an additional structure that lies between the Uran launcher racks which I've assume is an equipment room to house the Uran control racks and other ancillary equipment, and there is no sign of anything similar on Neustrashimy. Maybe they are choosing to keep this area vacant so that containerised modules can be fitted if ever needed?

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:02 pm


    Fresh photo of Neustrashimyy (May 28th)

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    Post  George1 Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:41 pm

    Neustrashimy class (Soviet designation Project 11540) "Yastreb" ship will return to the fleet in 2021

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/10738515
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:05 am

    George1 wrote:Neustrashimy class (Soviet designation Project 11540) "Yastreb" ship will return to the fleet in 2021

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/10738515

    Excellent news, it's was about time thumbsup

    It's ​sister ship Yaroslav Mudrii has been more than working off the money invested in it and another one of these will be excellent addition to the fleet

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    Post  franco Tue Nov 02, 2021 5:52 pm

    Digital Undaunted: The Navy Awaits an Updated Submarine Hunter

    Until the end of 2021, the Neustrashimy patrol ship (TFR) is to join the Navy. It was officially handed over to the Navy in 1993, and in 2014 it was sent for repairs. After the modernization, the "Fearless" became actually a new ship: in particular, unique digital control systems were installed on it. Now this electronics, having received data from radars and sonars, will prompt the crew on the most effective ways to combat underwater and surface targets. Experts note that "Fearless" will increase the capabilities of the Navy in the far sea zone. It is expected to become one of the most efficient submarine hunter ships.

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    Sources in the military department told Izvestia that the Neustrashimy TFR is currently preparing to leave the shipyard in Kaliningrad. The ship should be handed over to the Navy this year, but it is possible that the date may be shifted to the beginning of 2022.

    The watchdog has been undergoing modernization since 2014. Earlier, Izvestia wrote that its return to service was planned at the end of 2016, but the major delay was caused by the repair of the ship's propulsion system, produced in Ukraine. At the aircraft plant in Samara, it was necessary to practically master new technologies for domestic engineers from scratch.

    In the course of the work, "Neustrashimy" was seriously updated, the sources of "Izvestia" in the military department noted. In particular, all analogue equipment on it was replaced with digital. A new combat information control system (BIUS) was installed - a modern complex of electronic computing equipment and other technical means, designed for the automated development of recommendations for controlling weapons and the entire ship. A new artillery control post appeared on the TFR. The "Fregat" complex, a radar station for monitoring the air and surface situation, was also modernized.

    These changes should seriously increase the ship's combat capabilities. According to Izvestia's sources, now all of its weapons meet the most modern requirements.

    In addition, a new digital navigation station was installed on the patrol, Izvestia's interlocutors said. She is responsible for the automated exchange of information about the location, course and speed of ships and vessels in the adjacent water area, as well as the state of the fairways. This ensures the safety of navigation.

    There are only two patrol ships belonging to the project 11540 (code "Yastreb") in our Navy - this is "Fearless" and "Yaroslav the Wise", and both are part of the Baltic Fleet, military expert Dmitry Boltenkov told Izvestia.

    - The Russian Navy now really needs ships for operations in the far sea zone, and "Fearless" is one of them, - the specialist emphasized. - It has been actively exploited for a long time far from the Russian shores, demonstrating good seaworthiness and reliability. I am sure that after his return to service, he will again expect long sea voyages, business trips to the Mediterranean Sea and the Indian Ocean. There he will not only be engaged in the demonstration of the flag, but also the study of possible areas of hostilities. The ship will also be useful for fighting pirates off the coast of Africa.

    The return of the Undaunted to the Navy is a success for Russian shipbuilders. The modernization carried out will seriously increase its combat potential, the expert noted.

    Fighter, diplomat and movie star


    TFR "Fearless" was built at the end of the Cold War as a high-speed high-tech ocean hunter for nuclear submarines. When creating patrol boats of Project 11540, technologies were used to reduce acoustic signature. By the time of the collapse of the USSR, "Fearless", while still in the process of testing, was one of the most modern and versatile ships of the Russian fleet at that time. The Navy flag was raised over it in 1993.

    After modernization, the TFR must cope with any task of finding and destroying submarines. Its distinctive feature is its powerful anti-submarine weapons: depth charges, the Vodopad-NK missile and torpedo complex and the Ka-27 helicopter. The highly sensitive hydroacoustics of the ship makes it possible to search for submarines even in the Baltic Sea, where depth differences make such a task extremely difficult.

    The Ka-27 carrier-based helicopter located aboard the Undaunted is responsible for the search, detection and destruction of submarines. In addition, it can be used for search and rescue operations, evacuation of the wounded and urgent delivery of goods from the shore or between ships.

    The patrol anti-aircraft armament allows you to take protection of other warships on the high seas. Also, "Fearless" can cover with its air defense systems the actions of troops during the conduct of amphibious assault.

    In addition, the ship is armed with torpedo tubes and a universal 100-mm artillery mount Ak-100 with a firing range of more than 21 km. In this case, the gun can hit not only surface or ground, but also air targets. Its ammunition includes anti-aircraft shells with a radar fuse. The projectile is detonated at a distance of 5 m from the cruise missile and 10 m from the aircraft, which guarantees their destruction.

    Before being put up for repairs, the Neustrashimy was actively exploited. During his service, he traveled about 120 thousand nautical miles, made several dozen foreign trips, including the Mediterranean Sea and the Indian Ocean. The ship took part in operations against Somali pirates more than once and accompanied merchant ships in the Horn of Africa. He was a participant in the international naval exercises Baltops, during which he practiced skills in conducting peacekeeping operations at sea.

    In 1995, "Fearless" represented Russia at the celebration of the 100th anniversary of the Kiel Canal. In 2003, he provided for the official visit of Russian President Vladimir Putin to London, and as part of that trip, the President visited the ship with the Duke of York. In 2006, "Fearless" took part in the ceremony for the reburial of the ashes of Empress Maria Feodorovna, wife of Alexander III: he met the Danish naval ship Esbern Snare, which was transporting the ashes of the Empress, off the Russian coast, and escorted him to Kronstadt.

    Also "Undaunted" can be called the main movie star of the Russian Navy. He was filmed in such famous films as "Peculiarities of National Fishing", "The Envy of the Gods" and "Paragraph 78".

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    Post  franco Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:34 pm

    NOTE: not sure if this relates to the photos above

    Russian guard ship to rejoin Baltic Fleet in February after repairs

    MOSCOW, December 29. /TASS/. The Yantar Shipyard on the Baltic coast (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation) has completed work on the repairs and upgrade of the guard ship Neustrashimy, the Shipyard’s press office reported on Wednesday.

    "Upon completion of the sea trials that will last about 30 days, the Neustrashimy will be handed over to the Navy and will re-enter service with the Baltic Fleet," the press office said in a statement.

    On December 27, the guard ship completed its transit to Baltiysk where it will enter acceptance/delivery tests, the press office specified.

    Under the program of its tests, the upgraded warship will make several deployments to the sea that will last about 30 days. The shipbuilders will test all of the guard ship’s systems and mechanisms, in particular, the main propulsion unit and armaments, the statement says.

    The Shipyard’s delivery team and a commission of the Baltic Fleet will work aboard the guard ship during its trials, the press office specified.
    Long repairs

    The warship’s basic repairs involved upgrading its mechanical systems: the shipbuilders restored and re-installed its boost propulsion units, modernized its armaments and support mechanisms.

    It was earlier reported that the repairs of the Neustrashimy were scheduled to be completed in 2014. The warship has been under repairs at the Yantar Shipyard since 2014. The frigate’s contractual repair deadlines were postponed twice over a large amount of work revealed in the process of its inspection for likely faults and the complicity of the repair of the Ukrainian-made boost propulsion systems. The problem with the engines had been resolved by 2019.

    The Neustrashimy had been part of the Baltic Fleet since 1991.

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    Post  Mir Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:59 pm

    franco wrote:NOTE: not sure if this relates to the photos above

    Yes she's the one and almost only. Nice to see her return to the sea Smile
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:19 am

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    franco wrote:NOTE: not sure if this relates to the photos above

    Yes she's the one and almost only. Nice to see her return to the sea Smile

    F*cking finally if you ask me

    They had shortage of ships for decades and all this time they had this thing just sitting around

    Other Neustrashimyy class ship is already paying itself off swimmingly, time for this one to pitch in

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:20 am

    It was very sad seeing the two remaining hulls just rusting at the Jantar for ages.
    Luckily, Murdyj has been finished, still, the Tuman hull is sitting just there. Easy to spot from Petrozawodska St.
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    Post  Mir Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:30 am

    I think the Tuman was considered as an export version (Korsar?) but it is probably destined for the scrapyard. cry

    At least they can use the metal for one of the Gorshkovs.
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    Post  ALAMO Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:35 am

    They just keep it sitting there on the water for the last 25 years or so. Tons of times there were statements, that it will be scrapped - still survived.
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    Post  Mir Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:05 am

    Yes and what was to become the Borodino training ship shares the same fate. Some more metal that they could use for better things! Laughing
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:57 pm

    ALAMO wrote:It was very sad seeing the two remaining hulls just rusting at the Jantar for ages.
    Luckily, Murdyj has been finished, still, the Tuman hull is sitting just there. Easy to spot from Petrozawodska St.
    I thought it was already been announced since a couple of years that tuman will not be completed...
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    Post  ALAMO Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:44 pm

    Years ago, and by the yard director.
    Finishing it would make sense in the 00s, now it is an old hulk only.
    Still, sad.
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    Post  walle83 Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:54 am

    "Russian frigate Neustrashimy starts acceptance trials after years-long repairs"

    "The ship’s acceptance trials will include several deployments to the sea. Once they are finished, Neustrashimy will be handed over to the Russian Navy and will re-enter service with the Baltic Fleet."

    https://www.navaltoday.com/2022/02/17/russian-frigate-neustrashimy-starts-acceptance-trials-after-years-long-repairs/

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    Post  lancelot Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:07 pm

    Any news on what the Neustrashimy refit consisted of? Is it a deep upgrade with weapon systems upgraded or just a refit to get it back to work? Given the time they took I assume the first.

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