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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:35 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:Got another retard on the forums with zero knowledge but talks as if they know

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t8410p400-future-russian-aircraft-carriers-and-deck-aviation-2#308666

    People in the west have been weened from birth on an endless stream of BS about how poor Russians are both financially
    and intellectually.   When Russians hear westerners describe life in Russia, they cannot help but cringe at the inanity.
    The western propaganda is so cheesy, it covers the consumer with cheese drippings.  

    Back in the bad old days of the USSR my family was well off enough.   We could buy a new car with the best
    new car smell ever. (Yes, really, since it was not as carcinogenic as the "better" crap made in the west).  We
    got plenty of vacation time to spend in the great outdoors.   We were not rich by western standards, but we
    were vastly better off than western poor.   And nobody in my family was a member of the Communist Party.

    The real poverty appeared under the comprador regime of "palpable humanitarian" Yeltsin.  That is why Russians
    can see western BS for what it is.   Navalny's western handlers think that him drivelling on and on about how
    the Yeltsin era was the golden era is a great propaganda ploy, but to Russians it is intellectually insulting
    retardation.  

    The west utterly failed to win hearts and minds in Russia.  It tried to turn Russia into a 3rd world colony and
    Russians won't forget.

    Russians who are old enough to know yeltsins years know it's an insult. But younger generation who didn't live through that don't know and don't understand.

    It should be taught in schools in Russian social studies class that the Yeltsin years was one of the worst for Russians in its history.

    The younger generation of liberast 5th column idiots may swallow the NATzO koolaid, but normal Russians have no
    reason to. That is why Navalny's young hamster follower numbers are so pathetically small. And actually, even
    those that showed up to his "demonstrations" were paid. When some of them did not get their money, they complained.
    The pro-NATzO "opposition" in Russia, no matter the age, is a rent-a-crowd joke. There is more discontent with
    the system in the USA than in Russia.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:39 am

    A key section of the trans-Banderastan gas pipeline has exploded. Ukr slime is already accusing Russia.

    Hope it is a stunt, because they backfire so spectacularly... perhaps this is a chance for Ukraine to demand more money or to steal gas in transit because the "pipes are under Russian attack", but what they don't realise is that this is also an opportunity for Russia to say with the conflict in the Ukraine and all the extremist groups in that country that pumping gas through there is no longer safe, so the options for Europe are to either allow 100% capacity through existing alternative pipelines with LNG shipments to take up any slack, or all LNG shipments and the customers in Europe will get the privilege of paying the higher price for the processed gas... and no more gas or gas contracts or transit fees to Ukraine.

    Price for energy in the EU is clearly going to go up.

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    Post  par far Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:02 pm

    "The Empire is losing the energy war"


    https://thesaker.is/the-empire-is-losing-the-energy-war/
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    Post  kvs Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:51 pm

    par far wrote:"The Empire is losing the energy war"


    https://thesaker.is/the-empire-is-losing-the-energy-war/

    The author of this article is spreading a lot of BS.

    The Russian economy shrank almost 40% over the next two years.

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.KD.ZG?locations=RU

    Nobody with a clue would use the nominal exchange rate derived dollar size of the Russian economy.   Even if the forex changed by 50%,
    the Russian economy did shrink by 40% over two years since dollars are not used for Russian economic transactions.   The small drop in 2015
    was due to a transient inflationary spike induced recession.   A recession driven by panic and not fundamentals.   If anything, the
    drop in the ruble forex rate stimulated Russian exports and thus its GDP.   Also, the drop in oil prices in 2014 managed to be fully
    counteracted by the ruble forex change.   So Russia saw no actual drop in oil prices in ruble terms which is all that matters for
    the Russian GDP.

    Putin’s victory in the war and subsequent occupation of South Ossetia and Abkhazia

    What rubbish.   First the use of Putin instead of Russia as if Russia is nothing more than Putin and the ludicrous claim about occupation
    of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.   These were liberations and not occupations.   Russian soldiers are not currently enforcing curfews
    and shooting dissidents in these republics.  

    The author also fails to explain to his readers that all of these Russia bypass projects failed because there was no supply
    capacity in Turkmenistan and the Caspian basin to make them viable.   This has nothing to do with any "occupation" of
    "virgin Georgian soil" or other fantasy shit.    Before the year 2000 there was a widespread belief that the Caspian basin
    would be another Saudi Arabia with massive oil reserves.   Instead, it has turned into a flop with vastly smaller reserves
    which also are hard to exploit.   Turkmenistan also managed to commit most of the smallish export capacity it has to
    China, so Nabucco was DOA.

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:20 pm

    Putin wasnt the president of Russia during the Georgian War. It was Medvedev.

    And yeah, Russia's economy didn't drop by 40%. That kind of drop would create worst depression in history. No, it dropped at most like 8% at best around that time. That is why PPP matters and not some nominal bullshit. Currency manipulation is a joke and the fact that speculators drop the value of the Ruble that all of a sudden its economy dropped by 40%? None of that makes any sense at all. And also, it is evident it is bullshit when that the so called 40% drop in economy, that somehow Russia started massive buying of weapons, import substitution and now consuming more energy and exporting more food than it has done since Soviet times gives indication that none of that is equated with a 40% drop in economics.

    I can go further.

    Par Far, read the god damn article before posting crap. I like you, so I wont be harsh.
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    Post  kvs Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:39 pm

    In my link the GDP drop number is given, the drop was 1.973% and only in 2015. In 2014 and 2016 there was net growth.

    Another reason for the lack of any substantial growth during this period was that a 50% forex drop meant that foreign
    debt payments doubled overnight in ruble terms. Using the BS GDP accounting means that these extra billions of rubles
    were a negative for the Russian GDP. So real world growth during 2014-2016 and later was actually positive and not
    negative.

    Back to the BS in this article, the reason why Germany is not bending over backwards to please Washington is because
    beggars can't be choosers. All the yap about bypassing Russia is for idiots.



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    Post  owais.usmani Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:43 am

    As per vesselfinder, AKADEMIK CHERSKIY is back anchored at Kaliningrad right now.
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    Post  kvs Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:59 am

    owais.usmani wrote:As per vesselfinder, AKADEMIK CHERSKIY is back anchored at Kaliningrad right now.

    It will not be used to finish NS 2. Thanks to the sanctions terrorism Russia does not want to risk the ship being
    seized on the high seas to fulfill vassal obligations to Amerislime masters. We already had BS attempts to seize
    Russian aircraft at air shows because some grifter NATzO company claimed it was "defrauded" by Russia after
    being kicked out for engaging in brazen theft. NATzO parasites are always victims.

    The Fortuna barge is being used to finish NS 2 after being sold to some obscure company. Denmark has removed
    its previous BS demand that only ships like the Cherskiy can be used.

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    Post  par far Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:36 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Putin wasnt the president of Russia during the Georgian War.  It was Medvedev.

    And yeah, Russia's economy didn't drop by 40%.  That kind of drop would create worst depression in history.  No, it dropped at most like 8% at best around that time.  That is why PPP matters and not some nominal bullshit.  Currency manipulation is a joke and the fact that speculators drop the value of the Ruble that all of a sudden its economy dropped by 40%?  None of that makes any sense at all.  And also, it is evident it is bullshit when that the so called 40% drop in economy, that somehow Russia started massive buying of weapons, import substitution and now consuming more energy and exporting more food than it has done since Soviet times gives indication that none of that is equated with a 40% drop in economics.

    I can go further.

    Par Far, read the god damn article before posting crap.  I like you, so I wont be harsh.


    I apologize for that article, I should have read the article carefully.
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    Post  miketheterrible Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:46 pm

    par far wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:Putin wasnt the president of Russia during the Georgian War.  It was Medvedev.

    And yeah, Russia's economy didn't drop by 40%.  That kind of drop would create worst depression in history.  No, it dropped at most like 8% at best around that time.  That is why PPP matters and not some nominal bullshit.  Currency manipulation is a joke and the fact that speculators drop the value of the Ruble that all of a sudden its economy dropped by 40%?  None of that makes any sense at all.  And also, it is evident it is bullshit when that the so called 40% drop in economy, that somehow Russia started massive buying of weapons, import substitution and now consuming more energy and exporting more food than it has done since Soviet times gives indication that none of that is equated with a 40% drop in economics.

    I can go further.

    Par Far, read the god damn article before posting crap.  I like you, so I wont be harsh.


    I apologize for that article, I should have read the article carefully.

    No need to apologize. We all make that mistake, even I do.

    We just got to be more attentative to the articles comments or at least if posting it, point out the nonsense in it. Or at least ask which parts are nonsense or not. It is wrong of me or others to say what you can or cant post as it isnt our place. Its just that this site gets flooded with nonsense tbh.
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    Post  kvs Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:25 pm



    Ukr liars are spreading BS about how "mighty Gazprom can't deliver gas to Russian villages and cities". This inane propaganda
    is has no connection to reality and does not even have a grain of truth to leverage.

    In 1993 we had the following gas distribution (from graph at 0:40 in video):

    villages or small towns: 15.1%
    cities: 53.4%
    total: 41.1%

    In 2019 the levels were:

    villages: 61.8%
    cities: 73%
    total: 70.1%

    During this period there has been negligible impact from recessions. In fact, the coverage increase only stalled in 2008.
    It surged between 2004 and 2007 and for non-city coverage surged in 2011-12. There was no change in 2014 and
    and increase from 2015 onward.

    The BS claims by Ukr haters are based on the phony gasification metric used by the USSR. In modern Russia gasification
    is declared if the pipeline infrastructure is developed to service populated points. In the USSR we had the nonsense of
    gasification being declared if a village got some gas canisters. The above cited graphic uses the proper definition and
    not some fake plan-filling trick.

    Russia has actually achieved for real the big plans of the USSR during the 1980s. It has deployed a gas distribution
    network in excess of a million kilometers compared to about 188,000 km in 1990.

    Meanwhile in Banderastan they still use the phony definition of gasification which pads their claim to have a level of 70.6%.
    If Russia used the same definition, then Russia would be at the level of 91%. As is clear, in Russia the coverage is increasing,
    but in Banderastan it is at best stagnant. But that is just fake official numbers. The cost of natural gas in Ukraine has
    been going through the roof and even the Banderastani media is proudly trotting out people claiming that they have installed
    wood burning stoves to "stick it to Gazprom". So the real coverage figure in Banderastan is substantially smaller than 70%.




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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:34 pm

    It's good that the video dispels their B's but I don't even get their shitty attempt at propaganda. It doesn't make sense nor does anything to benefit Ukraine other than an attempt to say "ha ha" and try to make themselves feel better. But even Ukrainians themselves know they are getting screwed over the lack of fuel and the massive increase in energy prices.

    All the while in Russia, prices are steady and cheap, and various alternatives like electric heating (thanks to nuclear power) is taking over.

    I'm assuming no one thought of that too. Not like Ukraine has much in terms of electrical power left.

    As I said, the average Ukrainian knows it's BS and are feeling the pinch.

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    Post  kvs Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:43 pm

    It is moronic propaganda. Pauper Ukrs need to feel like they are rich relative to Russians. So all sorts of retarded
    claims are made about what a toilet Russia is compared to Banderastan. The only toilet is Banderastan itself and
    it is getting smellier every day.

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    Post  Kiko Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:59 pm

    Russia’s Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline gets closer to finish line, first link expected to be completed by June
    16 Jan, 2021

    The operator of Russia’s natural gas pipeline to Europe, Nord Stream 2 AG, has secured permission to continue work in the Baltic Sea and may finish one of the two branches of the route in the first half of the year.

    Germany’s Federal Maritime and Hydrographic Agency (BSH) said on Friday that work on the Nord Stream 2 pipeline in the nation’s exclusive economic zone can continue. The agency expanded the previous timeframe as requested by the operator, ruling that the construction of the remaining kilometers of the gas route can be extended until the end of May.

    Germany’s go-ahead came after similar permission from Danish authorities. This week, the Danish Energy Agency (DEA) said that it had received a new schedule from the Nord Stream 2 operator that showed that work could have started on Friday, 15 January.

    The same timeframe for the resumption of pipe laying was earlier mentioned in a Bloomberg report, which cited the company’s schedule and people familiar with the matter. The document reportedly shows that one section of the two-string pipeline could be largely finished as soon as June. The Russian-flagged pipe laying vessel Fortuna is reportedly expected to complete work in Danish seas by the end of May, where some 120 kilometers are unfinished, and then lay around 30 kilometers of pipes in German waters.

    However, the operator later clarified that the green-light from the European regulators does not necessarily mean that work will start immediately.

    “We have permission from the Danish energy agency to start work from Friday. However, this does not mean that we will also resume laying pipes on Friday,” Handelsblatt quoted the Nord Stream 2 spokesman as saying. According to the company’s representative, it will further decide when it can restart work at the end of January or in early February.

    The $11 billion gas project in the Baltic Sea, developed by Russia and supported by its European partners, has been largely criticized by the US, which has its own interests in the lucrative European energy market. While claiming that Nord Stream 2 would deepen Germany and Europe’s dependence on Russia, Washington has been trying to derail the project, threatening the companies involved in it with sanctions.


    The first company to ditch Nord Stream 2 due to looming US restrictions was offshore contractor Allseas. The firm withdrew its vessels from the pipe laying site in the Baltic Sea at the end of 2019, forcing Russia to dispatch its own ships to complete the remaining section of the offshore pipeline.

    As Washington kept increasing pressure on the contractors, more companies pulled out of the project. In the last three weeks, two more firms turned their back on the project due to the US restrictions. Norwegian certifier Det Norske Veritas–Germanischer Lloyd (DNV GL) announced the decision to sever ties at the beginning of the year, while Dutch consulting group Ramboll was reported to have quit the project earlier this week.

    https://www.rt.com/business/512650-nord-stream-completion-june/

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    Post  kvs Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:43 pm

    All the Washington bootlick corporations and their future variants (e.g. sale to other owners and renaming) should be put on a perpetual
    black list by Russia. These companies were engaged in political blackmail and not business.

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    Post  Kiko Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:07 pm

    Energy security: production of high-capacity gas turbines will be launched in Russia

    Soon, the launch of the first in Russia production of serial gas turbine units of increased capacity of the GTD-110M brand, with a power-to-weight ratio in the range from 90 to 130 MW, will take place. Place of production - Rybinsk, Yaroslavl region. For this purpose, the company "UEC-Saturn", a member of the state corporation "Rostec", received a loan in the amount of 2 billion rubles from the Industrial Development Fund. This was reported by the PJSC press service.

    Energy security

    The purpose of the new UEC project is the serial production of domestic high-power turbines in order to increase and ensure the energy security of the state. By this time, GTD-110M is the only Russian development with capacities from 90 to 130 MW. Gas turbines themselves are a key element of steam power generation.

    GTD-110M is the first domestic high-capacity turbine that has no analogues in the country within the declared capacity. Its characteristics are comparable or even superior to foreign-made gas turbine power plants. As usually happens, the cost of the Russian model is noticeably inferior to imported counterparts, with improved fuel efficiency, the ability to work with gaseous and liquid fuels.

    Project implementation stages

    The loan to PJSC "UEC-Saturn" was issued for a period of 7 years at 1% per annum. The project presented in the FRP is designed for several years and two stages of implementation.

    During the first stage, the technical re-equipment of the already operating workshops engaged in mechanical processing is expected. The plant will operate on the “full cycle” principle for the production of nozzles, working blades for hot chambers and combustion chambers. Such modernization will make it possible to launch new products from 2023. The production capacity at this stage is up to two GTD-110M units per year.

    The second stage involves the construction of a new mechanical assembly building. This will allow the production of up to four turbines per year from 2025.

    According to preliminary estimates, the Russian domestic market needs 30 gas turbines by 2030, totaling over 50 billion rubles.

    The described steps should help in the implementation of the modernization program for domestic CHP plants. By 2031, more than 40 GW of power capacities of Russian power plants are to be updated. New facilities will be introduced as well as enterprises that are already in operation will be updated. The main task of the program is to use Russian equipment.

    Nikolay Gritsay

    https://finobzor.ru/102107-energeticheskaya-bezopasnost-v-rossii-budet-zapuschen-vypusk-gazovyh-turbin-bolshoy-moschnosti.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com
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    Post  miketheterrible Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:26 pm

    this is oil and gas thread.  I posted that a couple days ago in the economic thread.

    I dont see why not just call this "Russian Energy Industry Thread"

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:34 am

    It has implications for economics... they are replacing German turbines using their own gas energy resources, which effects the Gas and Oil industry because there is more domestic uses they can put their energy resources to use for... if the EU gets too petulant and hard line then Russia can just use its own gas for its own needs and stop caring about EU energy issues... let them pay more.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:42 am

    Are these turbines that they use to push gas through the pipelines?
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    Post  Hole Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:14 pm

    Nope. To produce electricity.

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    Post  owais.usmani Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:20 pm

    https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/Ukraine-Is-Failing-To-Capitalize-On-Its-Gas-Potential.html

    Ukraine Is Failing To Capitalize On Its Gas Potential


    lol!
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:27 pm

    Kiko wrote:Energy security: production of high-capacity gas turbines will be launched in Russia

    Soon, the launch of the first in Russia production of serial gas turbine units of increased capacity of the GTD-110M brand, with a power-to-weight ratio in the range from 90 to 130 MW, will take place. Place of production - Rybinsk, Yaroslavl region. For this purpose, the company "UEC-Saturn", a member of the state corporation "Rostec", received a loan in the amount of 2 billion rubles from the Industrial Development Fund. This was reported by the PJSC press service.

    Energy security

    The purpose of the new UEC project is the serial production of domestic high-power turbines in order to increase and ensure the energy security of the state. By this time, GTD-110M is the only Russian development with capacities from 90 to 130 MW. Gas turbines themselves are a key element of steam power generation.

    GTD-110M is the first domestic high-capacity turbine that has no analogues in the country within the declared capacity. Its characteristics are comparable or even superior to foreign-made gas turbine power plants. As usually happens, the cost of the Russian model is noticeably inferior to imported counterparts, with improved fuel efficiency, the ability to work with gaseous and liquid fuels.

    Project implementation stages

    The loan to PJSC "UEC-Saturn" was issued for a period of 7 years at 1% per annum. The project presented in the FRP is designed for several years and two stages of implementation.

    During the first stage, the technical re-equipment of the already operating workshops engaged in mechanical processing is expected. The plant will operate on the “full cycle” principle for the production of nozzles, working blades for hot chambers and combustion chambers. Such modernization will make it possible to launch new products from 2023. The production capacity at this stage is up to two GTD-110M units per year.

    The second stage involves the construction of a new mechanical assembly building. This will allow the production of up to four turbines per year from 2025.

    According to preliminary estimates, the Russian domestic market needs 30 gas turbines by 2030, totaling over 50 billion rubles.

    The described steps should help in the implementation of the modernization program for domestic CHP plants. By 2031, more than 40 GW of power capacities of Russian power plants are to be updated. New facilities will be introduced as well as enterprises that are already in operation will be updated. The main task of the program is to use Russian equipment.

    Nikolay Gritsay

    https://finobzor.ru/102107-energeticheskaya-bezopasnost-v-rossii-budet-zapuschen-vypusk-gazovyh-turbin-bolshoy-moschnosti.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

    Good, siemens still has a wider range of gas turbine, heavy duty, industrial and aero derivative (ex Rolls-Royce industrial trent), and the heavy duty models are up to 593 MW, but it is probably a restricted niche.

    Anyway, if I am not mistaken the siemens gas turbines installed in Crimea were more than 200 MW each.
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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:49 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/Ukraine-Is-Failing-To-Capitalize-On-Its-Gas-Potential.html

    Ukraine Is Failing To Capitalize On Its Gas Potential


    lol!

    These clowns are still at it with their "shale" "prospects". The "shale" "prospects" were an epic flop in Poland but they must be a
    win in Ukraine. The delusion is thick, so thick you can cut it with a knife.

    BTW, one of the reasons for the war on the Donbass is that in addition to coal, there are "shale" hydrocarbon deposits there.

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:54 pm

    kvs wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/Ukraine-Is-Failing-To-Capitalize-On-Its-Gas-Potential.html

    Ukraine Is Failing To Capitalize On Its Gas Potential



    lol!

    These clowns are still at it with their "shale" "prospects".   The "shale" "prospects" were an epic flop in Poland but they must be a
    win in Ukraine.   The delusion is thick, so thick you can cut it with a knife.

    BTW, one of the reasons for the war on the Donbass is that in addition to coal, there are "shale" hydrocarbon deposits there.


    Let them try with expensive shale. Not only would it poison their water, it will destroy their true gold - the soil.

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    Some news from oilprice:

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    Russian Gasoline Imports Surge After Import Ban Ends



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    Rosneft Starts Work On Mega Arctic Oil Project


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