The Situation in the Ukraine. #28

Talk is cheap, especially when it comes from the lips of an American politician.

That talk is then interpreted in the most beneficial way by the listener and so on until down on the front line US Apaches are just over the hill on their way to save the day.

The frontline is not like similar fronts in a war when either side might make the first strike. In this case it it only the Ukies that will go first and given their intelligence gathering abilities the defenders will know roughly if not exactly what and when it will happen.

But all out war can't be the US plan, they just want a continuing running sore on the Russian border, a nice little bonus earning opportunity from steady product arms sales. All whilst keeping Kiev under the IMF cosh.

Will the hotheads upset the apple cart?

Donetsk and Novoazovskoe direction again under fire of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: Actual resumption of hostilities in Donbass

Alarming news continues to come from the territory of Donbass. Recently, hostilities have actually resumed there, which contradicts the ceasefire agreements, more or less observed by the parties for about a year. At the same time, both sides habitually accuse each other of breaking the ceasefire.

Information comes from the Donetsk People's Republic that Ukrainian troops fired from various weapons in several directions at once. The most active shelling, including with the use of mortars, was conducted by the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the western suburbs of Donetsk, as well as in the Novoazovsky sector.

The people's militia of the DPR suffered losses as a result of shelling from the enemy. It is reported that at least three fighters of the NM DNR received injuries incompatible with life. Another soldier was taken to the hospital, where doctors are fighting for his life for the second day.

Ukrainian troops are actively using large-caliber machine guns, under-barrel grenade launchers, mortars and other weapons. Unmanned aerial vehicles are used to carry out reconnaissance on the ground. The Directorate of NM of the Donetsk People's Republic reports that as part of the 58th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a drone was equipped with an explosive device to attack the territory of the DPR. During such activities, the Ukrainian serviceman, ineptly handling the dangerous cargo, allowed it to be blown up.

In turn, the Ukrainian side announced the shelling from the positions of the NM DNR, which, on the basis of this statement, led to the loss.
Meanwhile, the Ukrainian troops continue to saturate the territories adjacent to the line of demarcation with forces and means, which contradicts the obligations undertaken by Kiev earlier. But when Kiev complied with these obligations at all ...

Based on this, the situation at any moment can be reduced to full-scale battles, similar to the intensity of the 2014 battles. The Ukrainian side, realizing that without Western credits, the time of this power can be counted, is doing everything to redirect attention to the armed conflict, stirring it up with all its might. Recall that not so long ago, the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky came to the zone of the so-called OOS. Coincidence?..

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LMFS wrote:Adviser to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine: Russia will not use military aircraft in Donbass

In Ukraine, there was an interview with the adviser to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Valeriy Potseluyko, in which issues of Ukrainian "integrity" and security were raised. According to Potseluyko, Kiev has a strategy to "de-occupy" the territories of Donbass, which the Ministry of Internal Affairs is "ready to implement."

According to the adviser Arsen Avakov, the Interior Ministry is ready to "liberate Donbass".

Valery Potseuiko:

For this, only one thing is needed - an appropriate decision of the country's top leadership.

According to the adviser to the head of the Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs, "important steps have already been taken." Mr. Potseluiko called such steps the closure of the channels, which, according to Kiev, were controlled by Viktor Medvedchuk, the leader of the political movement Opposition Platform - For Life. This political movement some time ago came out on top in the country in terms of the level of approval from the citizens of Ukraine.

Kiss said that "the response to the closure of TV channels may be an aggravation in the war." At the same time, Avakov's advisor claims that this aggravation "can be carried out by Russia." According to him, "while there (in the Donbass) it is quite difficult to conduct hostilities":

The fields need to be dry. We are ready not only for an aggravation, but even for a full-fledged invasion, and it will be crushing for Russia.

During the interview, Kissuiko was asked whether Kiev is ready for the fact that “Russia will use its military Aviation».

Advisor to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs:

Russia will not use combat aircraft.
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Then Kiss explained why this will not happen:

Because they always say, "They are not there." And we have our own aviation, plus support from the West. Believe me, if something happens, the answer will be equal.

As a result, Kissuiko added that a decision by President Zelensky and the Verkhovna Rada is needed to "return Donbass".

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From the many statements the Nazis are doing lately, it seems clear to me that the Biden administration has promised them "to stand with the people of Ukraine", and these retards are inferring that the US is going to war with Russia over their Ukrainian serfs... and at the Russian border, where they would lose even if they tried with all they have. Yeah sure. The only thing US wants from this escalation is more headlines to continue ramping up pressure on Europe and try to further isolate Russia. The amount of ukies killed is not even a parameter in their calculations...

Lol

I have to admit, Ukraine's a lot better than Russia at bullshitting.

The question that should be asked is "they don't have to use the AF in Ukraine. They can hit targets from the safety of Russian borders. What then?"

miketheterrible wrote:Lol

The question that should be asked is "they don't have to use the AF in Ukraine. They can hit targets from the safety of Russian borders. What then?"

A few well trained FAC on the right comms network and away you go. Someone way beyond the horizon selects munitions for range and target type and bang! missiles/rockets obliterate target.

Must be some old stock that its more economical to dispose of this way. Win win

But, levity aside, this is something those of us here who lived through 2015/16 really don't want to see happen again. Those poor bastards deserve so much better.

Transfer of battle tanks and other armored vehicles of the #Ukrainian Armed Forces to the zone of the Joint Forces Operation in #Donbass.

Railway station in Dnepropetrovsk. #Ukrainian Tanks moving to #Donbass front line

The Ukrainian Armed Forces continue to transfer equipment to #Donbass - this video was filmed today in the city of Dnepropetrovsk (Dnepr).

Sound of battle in Staromykhailivka in the #Donetsk oblast this morning

“They will end badly” – Zhuravko comments on Ukraine’s plans to “defeat Russia”

Former Rada deputy Alexey Zhuravko commented on former Ukrainian Chief of Staff Viktor Muzhenko’s statement that Ukraine could defeat Russia with the help of a strong ally, saying that there was no country ready to do that, that Kiev had only allies of facade, and that such an adventure would end badly for the Ukrainians.

In a lengthy interview given to Fakty.ua, the former Ukrainian Chief of Staff, Viktor Muzhenko talks at length about the Donbass war, which he of course presents as a war between Ukraine and Russia.

If for the moment this war is not to Kiev’s advantage, Muzhenko nevertheless declares that he is convinced that it will end with the restoration of Ukraine’s borders in 2014 (which is more fantasy than military analysis), and that it is possible to defeat Russia if a strong ally comes to help.

“Mannerheim said that for a country to prosper it needs a strong government, a strong army and the people’ unity. These three conditions are probably not enough for us. We also need a strong loyal ally that will support Ukraine. Then we have every chance of winning this war,” he said.

Muzhenko did not specify which country he was thinking of, but you don’t have to be a fortune-teller to understand that he was talking about the United States (Russia has the second most powerful army in the world, China the third, and India the fourth, and since these three countries are allies, it leaves little choice).

Except that if the US is ready to wage war against Russia to the last Ukrainian, it has no intention of risking (nuclear) annihilation to wage this war directly. If Washington uses proxies, like Ukraine, it is precisely to avoid the risk of being vitrified by Russia in a direct confrontation.

As the former Ukrainian deputy, Alexey Zhuravko, who commented on Muzhenko’s statement, recalled, Ukraine has only allies of facade and the current situation is reminiscent of what happened in Georgia during the time of Mikheil Saakashvili.

As a reminder, in 2008 Georgia launched an offensive against South Ossetia in an attempt to recover this territory which seceded in 1991. The result was a disaster, the Georgian army was defeated by the Russian army in just a few days and the latter even found itself very close to Tbilisi. If Russia had wanted it, it would have effortlessly captured the Georgian capital.

Faced with the risk of repetition of such a disaster, Zhuravko advised Muzhenko to stock up… on toilet paper!

“I recommend Muzhenko to buy a lot of toilet paper – firstly. Secondly. The allies will use it and throw it away, but nobody will defend Ukraine. There will be no great victory. I don’t see for the moment a single ally agreeing to defend such authorities. Ukraine has only allies of facade – America, for example. All this reminds me of the Georgian scenarios under Mikheil Saakashvili. In other words, everything will end tragically. People like Muzhenko, (Ukrainian President Vladimir) Zelensky, they will end badly. Everything will end tragically, including for them: the integrity of Ukraine, at least within its present borders, simply cannot be maintained, and they themselves will be tried as war criminals. This is the scenario I believe in,” said Alexey Zhuravko.

It is to be hoped that some people in Ukraine will listen to Alexey Zhuravko’s words, and that Ukraine will not go through with its fantasies of re-conquering the Donbass by force, at the risk of having to face the Russian army for real this time. But for the moment we are actually witnessing what furiously resembles a repeat of the summer of 2008.

The Ukrainian army’s shellings against the DPR and LPR (Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics) are increasing, including against civilians, and new pieces of heavy weaponry have been filmed on trains at Dnipropetrovsk station, showing that the accumulation of military equipment and troops is continuing on the Ukrainian side.

In view of the lack of reaction by the OSCE, France and Germany to these violations of the Minsk Agreements, the DPR authorities have ordered the People’ s Militia to respond to fire from the Ukrainian army from now on. As a result, after a shelling by the Ukrainian army left three DPR soldiers dead and one wounded, the People’ s Militia responded to the fire and killed three and wounded four Ukrainian soldiers of the 58th AFU (Armed Forces of Ukraine) Brigade.

This situation resembles the one that prevailed in South Ossetia in the days and weeks before the Georgian army offensive. And just as at the time, Russia warned, through Vladimir Putin’s declaration in mid-February, that it would not abandon the Donbass under any circumstances.

Let those who have ears, hear…

Christelle Néant

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Brilliant phrase he used

"Allies of facade"

Donbass on the verge of a big war

The situation on the contact line is close to an explosion - just bring a match. Clashes take place along the entire length of the border between the LPNR and Ukraine. The intensity of the shelling is comparable to 2014. Already hundreds of mines, shells and missiles of MLRS are falling on the outskirts of Donetsk and Gorlovka, exploding at the Svetlodar arc and under Sakhanka. For two weeks now, evidence has been coming from the territory occupied by Kiev that Ukraine is pulling together echelons of armored vehicles to the front line. Ukrainian media are making similar accusations against Donetsk and Lugansk. In Kiev, they are discussing a new law on mobilization, much more stringent than its Soviet counterpart - it seems that a legislative basis is being prepared for the compulsory and fastest possible replenishment of personnel reserves.

The NM LDNR reacts to the provocations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - according to the testimonies of the military, there is a permit for a "response" Judging by the publications in the Ukrainian media and groups on social networks, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are suffering losses. Moreover, the units of the People's Militia were given permission to conduct preemptive fire to suppress and destroy enemy firing points. How adequate is the "answer" - we do not undertake to judge. However, on the whole, the tone of the statements made by the LPNR authorities allows us to conclude: the republics are preparing for a full-scale war; you won't be able to catch them off guard.

Decisive exam

The republics have more than once found themselves on the brink of another bloodshed, but each time the situation “cooled down”. Probably, this time the matter will still get off the ground - is it not for nothing that Kiev is pulling so much iron to the line of demarcation? The moment is more than suitable for Ukraine. It is not known exactly what is happening on the diplomatic front; exactly what nuances are being discussed behind closed doors between the participants in the Normandy format. But it is obvious that Ukraine and its authorities are completely bankrupt. This year, it is necessary to return the interest on the loan to the IMF in the total amount of 587 billion hryvnias, and the mission does not want to give a new tranche. Internal contradictions are escalating in the country, everything is bursting at the seams. It's time to organize a bloody war, in which it is not at all necessary to win.Rather, on the contrary, a military defeat will give the Kiev rulers an opportunity either (in the event of a complete defeat) to flee and then portray the government in exile, living in stolen billions, or introduce martial law, tighten the screws in the country to the limit, demand a grace period for loans and beg for money.

Both among the military and among the population, many view the current crisis with hope. Many people on the territory controlled by Kiev have houses, relatives, families; someone just wants revenge, the final and irrevocable destruction of the fascist regime in Ukraine. Someone sees in a possible war a point of bifurcation, after which the republics of Donbass will emerge from the current state of "neither peace, nor war." In any case, both for the People's Militia of the LDNR and for the republics themselves and their population, a potential war is an exam, and it is simply impossible not to pass it. Of course, Russia will not allow the physical destruction of the republics. However, military defeats, the stupidity of the command and the manifestation of the traditional republican "creativity" can critically affect the morale of the military and the mood of the population.

How do I get involved?

An important question is what to do with the numerous volunteers from the LPR and Russia, who will gladly defend the republics with arms in their hands, but have not the slightest desire to sign a contract with the People's Militia? It is one thing to fight, another is to march and shine with the knowledge of the charter. Thousands of people are ready to sacrifice everything to fight fascism, to fight. It is quite another matter to "serve", obeying the original Donetsk-Luhansk commanders. Do they really have to sign a contract so that later, after the end of hostilities, they go AWOL?

An equally important question is how will the admission to the valiant People's Militia be organized? Today this process takes up to several weeks - in the conditions of hostilities, there simply will not be time for this. It would probably be nice to think about creating some kind of special volunteer units. The whole question is: is anyone thinking about it today, or will the issues be resolved retroactively?

We'll see soon.

Author:
Egor Makhov

Strelkov: The upcoming battle in Donbass will determine the outcome of the entire war

March 2021 has come, and the situation in one of the hottest spots of the last decade - in the Donbass - is rapidly heating up again: about the reasons for the new phase of the old crisis and how all this may turn out for all of us in the near future, at the Roy -TV "said the former commander of the Armed Forces of the DPR and ex-Minister of Defense of the rebellious republic Igor Strelkov.

There are reports that Ukraine is transferring its forces to the so-called. demarcation lines - during the first month of spring, their troops will be strengthened in order to deliver a decisive blow to what they call the "separatists". Now the possibility of a large-scale offensive is very high, although the likelihood of such an event is never 100% - it is possible that Kiev has decided to once again flirt with Moscow for possible concessions. However, this time, as Strelkov suggests , the Ukrainian leadership has an additional motivation in the face of promises of assistance from Western "partners" who, since Biden took the presidency, have activated the fight against Russia and the Kremlin regime.

It is not surprising that the mood in the ranks of the militia is not too happy now - they are receiving information that in many brigades at the moment most of the equipment is simply out of order, although according to internal reports one may get the impression of almost complete combat readiness. The shortage of regiments and brigades reaches 38% - the salary has not been increased for a long time, and people simply flee from the army, and the personnel remaining in the ranks are demotivated. Igor Ivanovich clarifies that the above figure is the average for the hospital - this means that the rear, offices and headquarters are 100% staffed, but there are catastrophically shortage of fighters “on the ground”. That is, the army corps are simply not capable of attacking - their efforts will be enough to only hold the front line: unfortunately, the backbone of the high command there today is made up of careerists,whose goal is to earn money and extortion from their subordinates. And if Donbass cannot be defended, then the offensive will continue to Crimea, and in the future it may move to other regions of our Motherland, the expert notes.

The DPR and LPR today alone have no chances to resist the growing "dill" - but in the sleeves of their closest ally, the Russian Federation, there is a tangible trump card in the form of missile forces: the whole question is whether Putin will decide on a massive strike on the control centers, air defense systems and artillery systems of the enemy, which is fraught with the Kremlin's automatic labeling of the aggressor and the further imposition of new sanctions. Moreover, they may turn out to be so severe that all the restrictions that were in force before will seem like flowers - for example, the same Americans may raise the issue of blocking the supply of Russian oil and gas. As for the personalities from among the "elite" who have not yet had time to freeze their accounts abroad, for these people the White House deliberately leaves a loophole in order toso that at the right time they can influence the decision of the "national leader" on Novorossiya with their opinions.

By the way, the same "carrot" hanging by a string is Nord Stream-2, according to which Putin will certainly be offered a deal - a "green light" for construction in exchange for the surrender of Donbass: there is no need to doubt that after our consent to such the exchange of "partners" will eventually "ride" us in this project as well. Thus, half-measures in the form of sending volunteers and advisers this time, apparently, will not be enough - a demonstration of weakness and indecision on our part will result in serious military losses, the expert sums up.

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Donbass: Zelensky chooses the direction of the main attack

The transfer of forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the rupture of diplomatic relations with Russia bring trouble closer. Sergey Aksenov

Former Ukrainian ambassador to the United States, Valeriy Chaly, urged to prepare for the severance of diplomatic relations with Russia.

The statement of the diplomat was made against the background of the transfer of military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to Donbass. The network publishes video footage: self-propelled guns, tanks, military vehicles "Ural" on railway platforms are driven from Dnepropetrovsk and Mariupol.

The fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are preparing a breakthrough was told by a serviceman of the People's Militia of the DPR Slava "Kot": “The defector, whom we recently received at Yelenovka, confirmed our guesses. A blow is being prepared on our side. Most likely, Dokuchaevsk, Yelenovka and across the LPR - to separate. "

“The accumulation of technology is the main prerequisite for such a forecast. We see how they bring her up in echelons. In the spring or, perhaps, in the summer, when the "brilliant green" goes, I think they will trample, - he added. - There is permission to open fire, but it is stupid to suppress enemy firing positions. In reply".

Recently, attacks on positions in the DPR and LPR from the Ukrainian Armed Forces have become more frequent. So, on March 8, the servicemen of the 3rd battalion of the 28th Ombr fired at Staromikhaylovka from the BMP-2 and grenade launchers, firing thirty shells. Also, the fire was fired from small arms.

How far will Ukraine go in the new escalation of the conflict in the DPR and LPR

In the Debaltsevo direction, servicemen of the 59th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from positions in the Luhansk area opened fire from small arms at positions in the LPR in the area of ​​Nizhny Lozovoy. The deployment of military equipment in the territory controlled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine continues, in violation of additional measures.

“The footage of the military equipment transported to the Donbas is filmed for a reason,” says military expert Alexei Leonkov . - And in order to have some kind of psychological impact on the defenders of Donbass. The main task of the whipped-up hysteria is to demoralize the defending troops.

You should be aware that from 2017 to 2021, the number of mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine deployed in the area of ​​the contact line in Donbas remained almost unchanged and ranged from 10 to 12 at different times. They were covered by two artillery brigades of the Ukrainian army.

Other information is interesting. Namely, anti-aircraft brigades with S-300 and Buk-M1 appeared at the disposal of the headquarters in Kramatorsk. They also have a regiment armed with the Bayraktar UAV. This is the peculiarity of the current aggravation of the situation.

"SP": - That is still not a false alarm?

- The rotation of the Ukrainian mechanized brigades should be closely monitored, because their ranks may include quite fresh forces that have undergone training and retraining in training centers under the guidance of foreign instructors.

The units that are on the line of contact are already staffed according to NATO standards, have equipment, weapons, and some of them know how to interact with each other. Less is known about the armament of the volunteer battalions on the second line.

We know that the 44th Independent Artillery Brigade brought up heavy weapons - 152 mm caliber. There are Msta-B, Hyacinth and 100mm MT-12 cannons. It is clear from the intensity of the shelling that these barrels are working. There is also a brigade working on heavy 120mm mortars. Their arrivals are recorded. That is, they gathered a lot of strength there.

"SP": - In what directions can you expect a blow?

- Possible directions of breakthroughs in the DPR can be Dokuchaevsk, Starobeshevo. In the LPR - on Debaltseve. But for this, the Armed Forces will have to concentrate forces there on the eve of the breakthrough. Another sign of a breakthrough will be the active work of electronic warfare systems, which Ukraine has repeatedly used fragmentarily. And the activity of their UAVs.

"SP": - When can this happen? When will the roads dry?

- The army does not use highways. There are certain areas that have been worked out. Yes, the weather is unpredictable now. But the beginning of the operation is not determined by the weather, but by those who command the Armed Forces. In addition, in the case of the Armed Forces, there is also an external command.

In general, Ukraine has driven troops back and forth many times. But this time she's driving a lot more troops. Therefore, everyone paid attention to this. We realized that it could end in a real war. The intensity of the shelling is comparable to 2015-2016.

"SP": - Apparently, Russia will have to concentrate certain forces near the border to cool the hot heads of the "lads"? In February, motorized rifle exercises were held in the Rostov region ...

- In the Southern Military District, the winter period of personnel training is now coming to an end. Therefore, the exercises there are going according to plan and are absolutely not connected with the events taking place in the Donbass. Although many people think that this is some kind of demonstration of force on the Russian side. No, it’s not like that.

Another thing is that 250 thousand people serve in the Southern Military District. And they are all in constant combat readiness. In the event of a "negative scenario", as our president said, they can come to the aid of the residents of Donbass, among whom there are our fellow citizens.

That is, the situation is very ambiguous. It can collapse into turbulence. But when this will happen, no one knows. Everything is developing as in 1941. Then, as now, there was information about the beginning of hostilities from defectors. But the war all the same began suddenly.

"SP": - If, nevertheless, the offensive of the Armed Forces takes place, what could be the result?

- Let me remind you that in 2015, 14 mechanized brigades, two tank brigades, and three artillery brigades took part in the hostilities from the Ukrainian side. This is more than the focus now. And all the same, they failed to conquer Donbass.

But there is also a new moment - Ukraine has opened its airspace to NATO countries. Military aid to Kiev goes unimpeded. After all, under Trump, each tranche was delayed, each time it was necessary to push the decision to legislators. There will be no problems with large-caliber ammunition, the reserves of which are in abundance on the territory of Eastern Europe.

Direct support for NATO armies is unlikely. They still understand that their head-on collision with Russia is the Third World War, and not at all a local conflict. However, if a command comes from Washington, then Ukraine will attack. The situation is alarming.

Has Ukraine found a new patron?

“After the second Minsk agreements, another attempt was made to transfer this conflict to a frozen regime,” says Denis Denisov, director of the Institute for Peacekeeping Initiatives and Conflictology. - New measures were taken to ensure the ceasefire, but they did not work. We need new documents and methods. In the meantime, negotiations in the Trilateral Group have been stopped.

"SP": - Now Russia, if necessary, has an additional weighty reason for intervention, in the event of a military exacerbation - massive certification. In LDNR, almost half a million people received our passports ...

- I would not call the certification in the Donbass massive. It would be like this if at least half of the local residents received Russian documents. Now it is still less. There is something to strive for. But this is becoming an increasingly important factor in conflict situations. In the meantime, we are observing situational skirmishes, soldiers and civilians are dying.

"SP": - Ukrainian diplomats declare the severance of diplomatic relations with Russia. This has already happened in the case of Georgia. There it was the result of a five-day war caused by Saakashvili's attack on South Ossetia. Kiev wants the same?

- Nothing good can be done by such decisions. But if Ukraine did not go to the breaking of diplomatic relations during active hostilities in 2014-2015, it would be strange and illogical to do so now.

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Since Operation Navalny was a total fail, they are going to turn up the heat in east Ukraine. And its going to happen sooner than later. All it would take to freeze Nord stream 2 on the German side is a hot war between Ukraine and Russia. So that's what they will do.

Biden (in fact: Harris) can not sanction russian oil and gas exports. Not even virtualy. If he (she) would declare something like this the oil price would explode, the western economies would sink deeper into recession and russian companies would make a even greater profit from selling oil/gas to 100+ countries around the world.

It would also force the Germans to buy more expensive LNG and thus Russia wins anyway

Chaos In Ukraine Is Making An Epic Comeback

kvs wrote:Russia can finally slap these losers down.  Any attempt to use Kiev regime terrorism against Donbass civilians as pressure
on Russia should receive a Draconian response.   Let's see them convince the world that Russia has to be punished because
Kiev is shelling residential areas in the Donbass.   No amount of hate propaganda is going to fool most people.   They will
for sure claim that Russian soldiers are fighting Kiev regime forces, but they will never be able to show any visual evidence
to prove this, just as they failed before.

Some "Mission Impossible" studio film fake will not survive scrutiny.

What the West may not be calculating in their arrogance is that by constantly harassing Russia, they are lowering their calculated risks of getting involved more heavily in Ukraine, since it is obvious they are going to be demonized regardless of what they do. I agree that Russia should make it terminally painful for the ukies and their handlers to attack Donbass, that is the way they will learn to mean their own business and think twice before messing with Russia. Direct at the Russian borders, US should not test their luck too much.

^ Quite brazen of NATO to visit Ukraine while they are amassing troops on the contact line. That is what they call "sending a message", but they should take care what they wish, if Russia really gets "the message" and reacts accordingly, they could regret it. You don't go to the border of a nuclear superpower to kill their people and expect to pay no price for it...

I can't see NATO troops openly being sent to an area where they could get killed. Not worth the risk to politicians. SF like last time perhaps.

With no treaty obligations, it will just be just lots of fine words and backdoor help.