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    Peresvet laser complex

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    Post  GarryB Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:44 am

    So especially against satellites with Synthetic Aperture Radar

    Active radar antenna in space would have serious problems with getting rid of excess heat... directing a laser at them could easily make them overheat and fail... heat transfer in space is rather critical...
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    Post  Hole Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:28 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Isos wrote:Not the good thread Hole !
    he was blinded by the ray Very Happy

    It was a test. Twisted Evil I wanted to see if the mods are up to the task. Smile


    No, I confess. I was in a hurry. cry

    From time to time all this russian names are confusing. geek

    All this new stuff: the Poseidon tank, the Armata plane... scratch
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    Post  Hole Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:56 pm

    Me again. Take a look at the front of the trailer. Are this the prototype and the serial version or to different ones?

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:19 pm

    Hole wrote:

    All this new stuff: the Poseidon tank, the Armata plane... scratch

    yup and Burevestnik -  a bird!  lol1 lol1 lol1






    Hole wrote:Me again. Take a look at the front of the trailer. Are this the prototype and the serial version or to different ones?


    Im not sure what "serial " here means? in series like 8-10 every piece can be different dunno dunno dunno
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    Post  GarryB Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:39 pm

    Looks like an extra set of generators on the front (standing vertically)... the Tim Allen approach.... more power...

    Besides what does serial mean?

    Each of the Tu-160s was slightly different as new features were added during production...
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    Post  LMFS Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:03 am

    Apparently the two trucks have different functions, only one of them has the laser
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    Post  Hole Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:16 am

    GarryB wrote:Looks like an extra set of generators on the front (standing vertically)... the Tim Allen approach.... more power...

    Besides what does serial mean?

    Each of the Tu-160s was slightly different as new features were added during production...

    Serienversion in german. Correct Translation would be production version.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:17 pm

    Hole wrote:

    Serienversion in german. Correct Translation would be production version.

    still, with 10 unts of so every one can have differences or if you prefer modifications.
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    Post  Hole Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:05 pm

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    This one is called power modul.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:38 pm

    Hole wrote:
    This one is called power modul.

    perhpas in the furute they can use mini reactors there too :-) from Burevesnik. To reload faster.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:44 am

    For all we know it could be an extra air conditioning system for the electronics bay to keep the system cool while passing a lot of electricity through some systems that would otherwise get too hot...
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:52 am

    GarryB wrote:For all we know it could be an extra air conditioning system for the electronics bay to keep the system cool while passing a lot of electricity through some systems that would otherwise get too hot...

    unless you apply high temp superconductors (enough to use liquid hydrogen to cool - 110-130k they still are supeconductors)
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    Post  LMFS Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:31 am

    GarryB wrote:For all we know it could be an extra air conditioning system for the electronics bay to keep the system cool while passing a lot of electricity through some systems that would otherwise get too hot...
    Seems an air conditioner (air ducts present) + genset
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    Post  Arrow Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:58 am

    Any idea for what purpose they are installing preservet in ICBM bases.What is the purpose of this complex?
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    Post  Hole Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:05 pm

    Most propably blinding of recon satellites.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:37 pm

    perhaps also next line of defense against cruise missiles? or prompt global strike missiles?
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:14 am

    Some insight what the power source and predecessor of Peresvet, and its potential power output. This was a published article from 6 months prior to the revelation:

    Russia is also creating new small-sized nuclear reactors

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    Over the next 6 years our country will be ready small-sized atomic power plant (MAEU) with a capacity of 100 kilowatts and 1 megawatt for serial production. For the first time since the Soviet Pamir project (pictured above) will be revived the theme of a mobile nuclear reactor with new technology. While such installations in the world no one.

    From public information we can understand the following: 2 new type of MAAO will be funded through the Ministry of defense of Russia and officially designed for the exploration of the Arctic. As reported by a number of domestic media reports, the new energy source megawatt class can be made in a transportable version and can be moved on a transport platform to the towing vehicle with high cross, which allows him to be mobile and to provide energy to the non-stationary objects.On a more "modest", a 100-kilowatt reactor data yet, but such a development would be truly revolutionary if its creators manage to provide the relative compactness.

    Some Russian "experts" have suggested that we are talking about installations for creating laser weapons. Indeed, on the basis of such small reactors, it can be designed, but if you move away from formulaic approaches, the use of prospective, MAEU opens up broad opportunities in different spheres – from the already mentioned development of the far North to use nuclear energy for the construction of bases on the moon and Mars.

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    Peresvet could very well be powered with a 100kw to 1 Megawatt nuclear power plant.
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    Post  Arrow Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:13 am

    Peresvet laser is powered from the reactor? Why a reactor for this?
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    Post  Hole Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:11 pm

    The picture shows an old project.

    I guess the power unit of the Peresvet is a gas turbine. This should generate enough energy.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:47 pm

    Arrow wrote:Peresvet laser is powered from the reactor? Why a reactor for this?

    as Hole said this is not Peresvet in current form. Why reactor for lasers? to have large "ammo clip" for laser shots?
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    Post  Hole Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:55 am

    Today they could use the reactor developed for Poseidon. Small and light enough to fit into a trailer.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:55 pm

    Hole wrote:Today they could use the reactor developed for Poseidon. Small and light enough to fit into a trailer.

    I'd presume cooling and radiation here culd be the problem. Look at size of this lorries.
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    Post  Hole Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:35 pm

    The reactor is fully shielded. No radiation outside. The second vehicle of the power unit could be a large air-conditioner.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:57 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Hole wrote:Today they could use the reactor developed for Poseidon. Small and light enough to fit into a trailer.

    I'd presume cooling and radiation here culd be the problem.  Look at size of this lorries.

    I posted over a year ago that Rosatom were developing LFTR's for the RU military. As I stated prior, LFTRs are much safer, hydrogen explosions are non-existent in LFTRs, can be scaled to virtually any size large or small, uses much cheaper and abundant resource (Thorium over Uranium). Likely their using LFTR's in those new strategic systems.

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    Post  Arrow Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:19 am

    So do you think Russia use nuclear reactor in Peresvet combat laser system?

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