Majumdar and his sensationalist reporting
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max steel wrote:Exposed: Russia's Master Plan for Its Next Class of Deadly Submarines
Majumdar and his sensationalist reporting
Isos wrote:max steel wrote:
Majumdar and his sensationalist reporting
I don't think I have seen something more stupid than this![]()
SLBM in a SNA with liquid metal cooled reactors which can't be shut down![]()
This guy is a particular case.
artjomh wrote:It had 2 x 650 mm torpedo tubes for 65-76 torpedoes. No 650 mm rocket-torpedoes, only Vodopad (which is 533 mm)
http://russianforces.org/blog/2016/08/project_667bdrdelta_iii_submar.shtmlProject 667BDR/Delta III submarines are alive and well
On 5 July 2016, Svyatoy Georgiy Pobedonosets, a Project 66BDR/Delta III class submarine, returned to its base in Vilyuchinsk after a combat patrol.
It is quite remarkable that these submarines are still in service--K-433 Sv. Georgiy Pobedonosets was accepted for service 1980, so it is 36 years old. Even accounting for the fact that she spent most of its service life at a pier, she is an old submarine. The R-29R missiles are getting old too, of course, but they are probably replaced regularly. The Soviet Union produced a lot of SLBMs, so Russia will not run out of missiles for quite some time. We know that there were 4.3 missiles produced for each R-29R launcher, so at some point Russia had almost 1000 missiles of this type. Even though several hundred were probably expended in flight tests over the years, it should be possible to find enough missiles to put on the three Project 667BDR submarines that still remain in service. And they seem to be in good shape - K-223 Podolsk launched its R-29R missile during the exercise in October 2015.
Delta III submarines will probably retire after new Project 955 Borey submarines take their place in the Pacific. But there are plans to keep at least some old submarines in service -- Ryazan has been undergoing overhaul and will return to the fleet in some capacity.
New schedule for submarine construction
According to an industry source quoted by TASS, the new Project 955 submarine Knyaz Vladimir will be accepted for service in 2018--a year later than planned. Construction of the submarine began in July 2012. The Kazan multipurpose submarine of the Project 885M class will also join the fleet in 2018. Kazan and Knyaz Vladimir are expected to be launched in December 2016 and March 2017 respectively.
Knyaz Vladimir is the fourth submarine of the Project 955 class (it is also often classified as Project 955A). The fifth submarine, Knyaz Oleg, is expected to join the fleet in 2019 (it was laid down in July 2014), the sixth and seventh Generalissimus Suvorov (December 2014) and Imperator Alexander III (December 2015) will follow in 2020. The eighth and final Project 955 Borey submarine (to be laid down in December 2016) is expected to begin service in 2021.
GarryB wrote:..WTF?
Russia is "turning the Arctic into Russia's own back yard."
Geography lesson for the idiot that wrote that article the Arctic IS Russias back yard... read a fucking atlas.... geez!!!
Honesroc wrote:Interesting analysis on Russia's Arctic ambitions and capabilities. This article touches on special purpose-built submarines as well as a planned Arctic sonar-net similar to SOSUS
http://www.hisutton.com/Analysis%20-Russia%20seeks%20submarine%20advantage%20in%20Arctic.html
GarryB wrote:Garry takes exception to ignoring western propaganda and just accepting western views as reality.
If you want to ignore it it will never change and actually only get worse...
"Aggressive Russia turning to militarise the Black sea by spending money upgrading their military forces in occupied Crimea"
"Aggressive Russia spending money on military facilities in occupied Japanese islands in northern pacific."
Now they are spending money in their northern territories... the aggressive bastards... but lets ignore that crap because the articles have nice pictures...
In Russia, we created a new sound-absorbing coating for "Boreas" and "Ash"
External noise absorbing coating disperses submarine sonar signal and thus provides protection against anti-enemy
"Tehmash" Concern has launched production of a new special sound-absorbing coating for the fourth-generation submarines, said on Tuesday in the Group.
"New industrial rubber production will ensure the release of special coatings with improved acoustic performance for modern submarine of the fourth generation of boats. Technical plates, which we launched on the basis of the Cheboksary Production Association named after Chapaev, favorably differ from Western models the ability to absorb the acoustic signals of a wide range and high performance" - are reported words of the general director Sergey Rusakov concern.
External noise absorbing coating submarine, in particular sonar signal scatters and thus provides protection against anti enemy forces.
Now several submarines of the fourth generation are in the Russian Navy - a nuclear submarine type "Northwind" and "Ash", as well as non-nuclear "Lada".
https://defence.ru/issledovanie-materialov/v-rossii-sozdali-novoe-zvukopogloschayuschee-pokritie-dlya-boreev-i-yasenei/
Arrow wrote:Interesting why Russia doesn't use pump jet propulsion which generate less noise. All modern nuclear submarine use this propulsor. Astute, Virgina, Borey, Le Triomphant.
TheArmenian wrote:Arrow wrote:Interesting why Russia doesn't use pump jet propulsion which generate less noise. All modern nuclear submarine use this propulsor. Astute, Virgina, Borey, Le Triomphant.
Pump jets are a method to avoid the cavitation noise from propellers.
Cavitation noise is inversely proportional to depth at which the submarine sails.
For example:
At a given depth, cavitation noise is generated once the speed reaches a certain level.
At lower depths, the same cavitation noise will start only at higher speeds.
At 500 m depth there is virtually no cavitation noise even at high speeds.
For strategic subs (SSBNs) who have to go to shallow depths to fire their Ballistic Missiles, pump-jets are a good idea (although they penalize performance). Hence, the Russians are equipping their Borey class SSBNs with pump-jets.
Attack submarines (SSNs), usually operate at lower depths where cavitation noise is a much lesser problem. In order not to sacrifice performance, the Russians are staying away from pump-jets in the Yasen class submarines.
"Russia's naval nuclear forces have nine strategic submarines that provide continuous military patrols in the sea. The Russian Navy is also planning to increase the number of strategic nuclear submarines to 13, including seven 'Boreys' with 'Bulava' missiles," Shoigu said.
George1 wrote:So we have only in service:
5x Oscars
3x Akulas
2x Sierras
1x Victor
11 SSN/SSGNs..
https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/372788/227305704.37/0_178a34_6774fb6a_orig
PapaDragon wrote:George1 wrote:So we have only in service:
5x Oscars
3x Akulas
2x Sierras
1x Victor
11 SSN/SSGNs..
https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/372788/227305704.37/0_178a34_6774fb6a_orig
Are they going to overhaul any others or does everything besides these 11 get scrapped?
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