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    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:38 am

    cracker wrote:someone please recap the losses so far?

    -Su-24M and Mi-8MTSh in november 2015, shootdown and damage to helo during rescue
    -Mi-28 crash in mars or was it april 2016... tragic accident

    add to that some 10-15 men lost officially in total (probably more in SF and PMC)

    Am I right?

    The airport sat images /helos destroyed by daesh was a photoshop, we all agree on that, no news?

    The recently claimed Su-24M, i saw is said could be SAA Su-22, or just fake/montages/old video

    Any info on ground forces losses? armor? arty? trucks?


    Edit

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Armed_Forces_casualties_in_Syria
    http://www.interpretermag.com/fontanka-investigates-russian-mercenaries-dying-for-putin-in-syria-and-ukraine/

    "In addition, at least 62 private military contractors (PMCs) belonging to the Russian company "Wagner" were killed or wounded by December 2015.[10] Among these, were three or nine PMCs who were killed in a mortar attack on their position in Latakia province in October 2015.[11][12] Subsequently, another six PMC deaths were reported in February and March 2016, near Latakia, Damascus and Palmyra."

    What the hell??? 70+ pmcs ?

    Easy man, that is Wikipedia, crowd sourced bullshit.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:51 am

    Fontanka link found out 6 guys that were killed in all 2015 plus the official dead guys in Syria. The Interpreter Mag actually lists all "PMC" dead in both theatres of operations.

    While the inital internet claim was about 60 casualties. Which is KIA/WIA
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    Post  max steel Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:53 pm

    Russia MOD just denied that any Russian aircraft had crashed or were shot down.

    http://ria.ru/syria/20160605/1443296936.html
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:57 pm

    Rolling thunder or fun is about to start? ouch this is gonna hurt



    Lavrov: Future Russian Military Actions in Syria Won't Be Surprise for US

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160606/1040861075/russia-syria-us-surprise.html#ixzz4AoMiTyep
    "We will decide on how our aerospace forces will operate based on our assessment of the situation. We share this assessment with the Americans daily during video conferences between the Hmeymim base and the US command in Amman, Jordan. Therefore, there will be no surprises for the Americans here," Lavrov told reporters.
    Russia has warned the United States in advance that it would support the Syrian government’s military actions against extremists in Aleppo, he said.
    "We have warned the US side in advance about what is taking place in Aleppo and around it now, and they know that we will continue supporting the Syrian army from the air to not allow the terrorists to take over the territory."
    The minister added that Moscow was counting on Washington’s honest cooperation. "We expect that our partners will cooperate with us honestly and will not try to use our regular contacts to implement other plans… behind our back."

    On Friday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov urged the US to convince those rebel groups which they support in Syria to leave areas where al-Nusra Front militants are present.






    Syrian Rebels Should Take Blame for Staying in Terrorist-Controlled Areas

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160606/1040868757/syria-rebels-lavrov.html#ixzz4AoMIYkMO
    Syrian opposition groups had enough time to leave territories controlled by terrorist groups and those who failed to do so can only blame themselves, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Monday.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – He said that the United States asked to postpone anti-terror airstrikes in Syria because the positions of terrorists and opposition members were intermixed.

    "We believe that ‘normal’ opposition had more than enough time to leave the territories controlled by al-Nusra Front and Daesh since this February. We think that those who failed to leave the terrorists can now only blame themselves," Lavrov said.

    Sayonara go@t f@cker$ ! Twisted Evil
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    Post  sepheronx Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:14 pm

    I knew that "shoot down" was fake. After a couple of hours and how easy it is to get photos of all previous ones. Add to that, RuAF was very quick in the past to state an accident.

    That said, 6 total dead sucks but it happens. The claimed dead PMC's, well, hard to track and they are not Russian mil, so their deaths are not counted. But still sucks that many died.
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    Post  par far Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:16 pm

    Russia to give strongest air support to Syrian army in Aleppo area - Lavrov


    https://www.rt.com/news/345552-lavrov-syria-aleppo-support/

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:25 pm

    par far wrote:Russia to give strongest air support to Syrian army in Aleppo area - Lavrov


    https://www.rt.com/news/345552-lavrov-syria-aleppo-support/


    this in diplomatic language means we kick the democracy ouuta you and if your commando is there it is there - you were notified in advance not our fault. Smile
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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:01 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    par far wrote:Russia to give strongest air support to Syrian army in Aleppo area - Lavrov


    https://www.rt.com/news/345552-lavrov-syria-aleppo-support/


    this in diplomatic language means we kick the democracy ouuta you and if your commando is there it is there - you were notified in advance not our fault. Smile

    Basically Russian air strikes are detering FSA forces in Allepo area, so that SAA can be free to butcher Daesh in the East.
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    Post  arpakola Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:18 am

    on the road to rakka
    http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2786297.html


    Russian airforce strikes militants near Aleppo with incendary bombs
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    Post  Alex555 Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:36 pm

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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:00 pm

    Syrian commando patch on the other arm. Just for show.
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    Post  calm Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:00 pm

    Russian airstrikes destroy ISIS oil tanks in northern Syria

    18+

    360p http://agencyvideos.pw/v/nd06062016-360.mp4
    720p http://agencyvideos.pw/v/nd06062016-720.mp4
    180p http://agencyvideos.pw/v/nd06062016.mp4
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    Post  Atakor Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:49 pm

    calm wrote:
    Russian airstrikes destroy ISIS oil tanks in northern Syria

    18+

    360p http://agencyvideos.pw/v/nd06062016-360.mp4
    720p http://agencyvideos.pw/v/nd06062016-720.mp4
    180p http://agencyvideos.pw/v/nd06062016.mp4

    What is this source ? Haven't found much information about it. What channel is it coming from?
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:58 pm

    Atakor wrote:
    calm wrote:
    ..........

    What is this source ? Haven't found much information about it. What channel is it coming from?


    Here:



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    Post  calm Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:59 pm

    Atakor wrote:
    calm wrote:
    Russian airstrikes destroy ISIS oil tanks in northern Syria

    18+

    360p http://agencyvideos.pw/v/nd06062016-360.mp4
    720p http://agencyvideos.pw/v/nd06062016-720.mp4
    180p http://agencyvideos.pw/v/nd06062016.mp4

    What is this source ? Haven't found much information about it. What channel is it coming from?

    Amaq, IS official site.

    Here, conformation.
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-russian-airstrikes-destroy-isis-oil-tankers-northern-syria/

    hell on earth?
    Good.


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    Post  Atakor Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:02 pm

    Thanks, I was just wondering about the arabic logo on the top right corner of the video posted by Calm. Is it also from Al-Masdar ?

    Edit: Thanks Calm.

    Edit 2 (for Mods): Could we just explicitly say from what source(s) some of these videos are coming from, when it is not understandable for everyone ? I would have preferred not to watch a video made by IS rats or any other terrorist source.


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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:04 pm


    Unprecedented bombing on #Aleppo More than one jet can be heard. Multiple explosions after each bombing run could be secondaries.

    https://twitter.com/halabtweets/status/740246515474694144




    All from Ivan Sidorenko:

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    #RuAF Helicopters, including Mi-28s, giving CAS to #SAA in #Raqqa.

    https://twitter.com/DPRKJones/status/739157672272924673

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    Post  Neutrality Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:51 am

    4chan and more precisely the /sg/ (Syrian General) thread on /pol/ (Politically Incorrect) subchan are helping in finding targets for the VKS through Ivan Sidorenko. There is a recent example of this on the web, Al-Lataminah in Hama.
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    Post  Dima Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:20 pm

    Aldin Abazović ‏@Ald_Aba
    @Ald_Aba Count the #RuAF planes and new helos.. 04-29-2016
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    Looks like following a/c... (visible/not obstructed by the logo)
    12 x Su-24
    3 x Su-34
    4 x Su-35/30
    1 x IL-20
    2 x Mi-8/17
    1 x An-72
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    Post  Dima Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:24 pm

    Btw, how many a/c are now available with VKS in Syria as of June 2016. Has there been any new addition/surge in aircraft for re-starting the counter-terrorist ops?
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    Post  sepheronx Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:42 pm

    4x su-30sm
    4x su-35s
    12x su-24

    From top of my head. Maybe 4 su-34
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:13 pm

    People talk about 4 more Su34's going in along with 4 30's.
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    Post  Guest Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:21 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:People talk about 4 more Su34's going in along with 4 30's.
    Heard that too but numbers in Syria are not reflecting that. Might just be regular rotations in order to give as many pilots as possible some real combat experience.
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:37 pm

    Interesting if true. Tochka or Iskander? About time they hit that kind of target very hard.

    Rebels and the militants from the terrorist groups "Islamic State" have reported that the Russian military contingent used the newest "Iskander" rocket system. This was reported by military-informant.com.

    In the night of June 9th, in the area of the Bab al-Hawa crossing on the Syrian border with Turkey, a powerful explosion took place from a missile attack. The border crossing is 50 km west of Aleppo.

    Representatives of the terrorist group ISIS announced that the Russian Hmeymim airbase launched a tactical missile from the "Iskander" system. The modern "Iskander" missile system is actually in service with the Russian military contingent in Syria, arriving at the Hmeymim airbase in March 2016.

    Sources in the Ministry of Defense of Syria, in turn, confirmed the missile strike on militant positions near the Bab al-Hawa border crossing, but according to their message, the Soviet Tochka missile system was used to destroy the convoy of trucks that was carrying weapons and ammunition from the territory of Turkey.


    http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/06/syrian-rebels-announce-first-use-of.html

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