Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

The Kremlin’s Holy Warrior



The spokesman for the Russian Orthodox Church has blessed Vladimir Putin’s Syrian intervention as a sacred crusade. Jihadis in Syria happen to agree.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/24/the-kremlins-holy-warrior-chaplin-putin-russia-turkey-syria

KiloGolf wrote:

The Kremlin’s Holy Warrior



The spokesman for the Russian Orthodox Church has blessed Vladimir Putin’s Syrian intervention as a sacred crusade. Jihadis in Syria happen to agree.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/24/the-kremlins-holy-warrior-chaplin-putin-russia-turkey-syria

Guy on the left, Serbian lol

Ivan the Colorado wrote:"Evil Russia is using illegal munitions on the peace loving civilians" meme has resurfaced. Incendiary bombs now. This time Raqqa where there is no such thing as a peaceful civilian.

https://twitter.com/raqqa_sl/status/670284120510111746
https://twitter.com/iraqisecurity/status/670335333867905024

They only need a little bit of time to google...

RBK-250 with ZAB 2.5 incendiary warhead... and no..they're no WP bomb.

Hell it's been around and detailed since 2012

http://rogueadventurer.com/2012/11/27/update-cluster-munitions-in-syria-zab-2-5-incendiary-submunitions/

http://rogueadventurer.com/2012/12/13/differential-identification-of-white-phosphorus-and-zab-submunitions-in-syria/

But for some reason.. ppl are just ignorant and call it WP..

Stealthflanker wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:"Evil Russia is using illegal munitions on the peace loving civilians" meme has resurfaced. Incendiary bombs now. This time Raqqa where there is no such thing as a peaceful civilian.

https://twitter.com/raqqa_sl/status/670284120510111746
https://twitter.com/iraqisecurity/status/670335333867905024

They only need a little bit of time to google...

RBK-250 with ZAB 2.5 incendiary warhead... and no..they're no WP bomb.

Hell it's been around and detailed since 2012

http://rogueadventurer.com/2012/11/27/update-cluster-munitions-in-syria-zab-2-5-incendiary-submunitions/

http://rogueadventurer.com/2012/12/13/differential-identification-of-white-phosphorus-and-zab-submunitions-in-syria/

But for some reason.. ppl are just ignorant and call it WP..

Because it is WP, very Well Played.

VKS making a surprise appearance on some Jihadist's interview!

EDIT: I would also like to know more about what the news reporter is saying, can one of our Indian members translate?

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

VKS making a surprise appearance on some Jihadist's interview!

EDIT: I would also like to know more about what the news reporter is saying, can one of our Indian members translate?

82mm mortar from Harakat position making the world a better place. Not VKS. But we appreciate the same. Also old footage. In arabic the guys were gloating about how they defeated this and that and they keep going. Needless to say, it's done.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

VKS making a surprise appearance on some Jihadist's interview!

EDIT: I would also like to know more about what the news reporter is saying, can one of our Indian members translate?

82mm mortar from Harakat position making the world a better place. Not VKS. But we appreciate the same. Also old footage. In arabic the guys were gloating about how they defeated this and that and they keep going. Needless to say, it's done.

Thanks, must have resurfaced recently on social media. Didn't follow the Syrian conflict very closely before September of this year.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

VKS making a surprise appearance on some Jihadist's interview!

EDIT: I would also like to know more about what the news reporter is saying, can one of our Indian members translate?

82mm mortar from Harakat position making the world a better place. Not VKS. But we appreciate the same. Also old footage. In arabic the guys were gloating about how they defeated this and that and they keep going. Needless to say, it's done.

You don't speak arabic or did i get a wrong impression?

What languages do you speak?

Vann7 wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:
Looks like Betab 500

here a view of all the bombs Russia using.

https://www.rt.com/news/317662-russian-smart-bombs-syria/

Beautiful bomb ,hezbolah.. have to be having a lot of Fun with Russian new weapons..

That's not a missile, it's either a LG artillery round (which clearly looked like it) or it's SyAAF/RuAF doing the striking. Given that there was a secondary deton, while the missile got inside the building, then it can be a BetaB 500. But it can also just be ammo getting lit up.

No US airstrikes in Syria since Russia deployed S-400 systems

S-400 range in Syria.. cover all Israel ,all Syria ,most of Jordan and more than half of Turkey
all the way to the Capital.



Still Russia will need to capture more territory to really seal the borders of Syria..
Because flying low can evade radars. Russia needs to control all the borders with turkey and Israel. to fully cover both.. High flying planes and low flying ones across all Syria. and Or the deployment of 3-4 awacs.. one around damascus.. another around Latakia and another near
iraq border in eastern homs.. to fully See everything that move at any altitude over Syria.
Also Electronic Warfare and Gps jammers too.. a plus.

Werewolf wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

VKS making a surprise appearance on some Jihadist's interview!

EDIT: I would also like to know more about what the news reporter is saying, can one of our Indian members translate?

82mm mortar from Harakat position making the world a better place. Not VKS. But we appreciate the same. Also old footage. In arabic the guys were gloating about how they defeated this and that and they keep going. Needless to say, it's done.

You don't speak arabic or did i get a wrong impression?

What languages do you speak?

There's a translated version in Liveleak. Lemme find it. I speak all the 4 nasties. Italian, French, English, Serbo-Croat, understand enough Turkish and Farsi and off course Albanian, which is my mother tongue. I do not speak Arabic, bar the basic things (ironically learned through the Arab Spring).

Also this is "old" in the sense it is 10 days? old.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8ed_1447868711

This is the short version, but there's also a longer 40 second version.

Also, 122mm on Kuweires at the beggining of the assault to clear the Shayk ahmad route. ISIS no more.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=014_1448479647

I've encountered quite a view alabano/croati/serbs that speak to many languages to comprehent why and from where.

Know a greek at work he speaks 7 languages. Fluent in arabic, turkish, good in russian, greek of course, not bad in romanian and forgot another one.

From where do you know those languages and why?

Vann7 wrote:
No US airstrikes in Syria since Russia deployed S-400 systems  

S-400 range in Syria.. cover all Israel ,all Syria ,most of Jordan and more than half of Turkey
all the way to the Capital.

Still Russia will need to capture more territory to really seal the borders of Syria..
Because flying low can evade radars. Russia needs to control all the borders with turkey and Israel. to fully cover both.. High flying planes and low flying ones across all Syria. and Or the deployment of 3-4 awacs.. one around damascus.. another around Latakia and another near
iraq border in eastern homs.. to fully See everything that move at any altitude over Syria.
Also Electronic Warfare and Gps jammers too.. a plus.

It must be highly likely that as the SAA moves north and east that short and medium range SAMs will move with them. The unarguable reasoning being that they will be needed to fill in the gaps in coverage due to geography, range and time delay given the position of the S-400.

IMHO this is the biggest impact of the shootdown. A NATO country gave Russia an open door to upgrade the air defences of Syria. No wonder US/NATO flights have reduced, they must be hopping mad at CENTCOM.

Incidentally, did anyone else spot the very careful wording by Moscow that the actual arrival of more fighters was dependent on what happens now, not they are going 'today'? The good old 'make the threat but save resources by not actually doing it' ploy.

The British seem to have achieved the same by accident with the timing of the attack Syria vote. Get some 'kudos' for deciding to attack ISIS in Syria but not actually be able to as they can't safely overfly it.

Also, the location of the US carrier task force sent quickly out of the East coast at the start of the week seems to be very quiet. Perhaps they decided that the Eastern Med was not the best place to be diplomatically ATM.

Also, has anyone seen anything about the modus operandi of the French Navy planes? Are they flying with Russian or US targeting data? Are they flying less like the US/NATO?

Bye bye Turkey.

https://www.rt.com/news/323825-us-turkey-syrian-border/

US urges Turkey to close off its Syrian border to ISIS - media

Washington is urging Ankara to seal off a 100-kilometer stretch of borderline with Syria currently used by Islamic State for transportation of fighters and supplies into the Syrian war zone. The Turkish Army would need an estimated 30,000 personnel to do this.

The Obama administration is urging Turkey to ensure Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) in Syria receives no supplies through the Turkish border, the Wall Street Journal reports, citing sources in Washington. The request involves sealing off part of the frontier between the western Turkish town of Kilis and Jarabulus in eastern Syrian.

The topic about Russian Su-24 has long been diluted so I decided to put it here

https://www.rt.com/in-motion/323672-funeral-russian-marine-su/

Funeral held for Russian Marine who died rescuing Su-24 pilot

Hundreds came to pay their respects at the funeral of Alexander Pozynich, the Russian soldier who died attempting to rescue the crew of the Su-24 downed in Syria. The ceremony was held on Friday in the Rostov Region in the south of Russia.

Link of the video: https://youtu.be/GuAESrEfqOc

Another video clip from RT, about Russian AA systems in Syria: https://www.facebook.com/Rogozhin.142/videos/1505275239801628/

higurashihougi wrote:Bye bye Turkey.

https://www.rt.com/news/323825-us-turkey-syrian-border/

US urges Turkey to close off its Syrian border to ISIS - media

Washington is urging Ankara to seal off a 100-kilometer stretch of borderline with Syria currently used by Islamic State for transportation of fighters and supplies into the Syrian war zone. The Turkish Army would need an estimated 30,000 personnel to do this.

The Obama administration is urging Turkey to ensure Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) in Syria receives no supplies through the Turkish border, the Wall Street Journal reports, citing sources in Washington. The request involves sealing off part of the frontier between the western Turkish town of Kilis and Jarabulus in eastern Syrian.

Wow, if true I'll have to update the comment I just made about air defences being the biggest result.

The Turks action has resulted in that US decision, the second most important event in keeping Assad in power, after the Russian intervention. The Turks must be feeling really proud about that

This is the best revenge that Moscow could have hoped for. Those Russians certainly didn't die in vain.

Werewolf wrote:I've encountered quite a view alabano/croati/serbs that speak to many languages to comprehent why and from where.

Know a greek at work he speaks 7 languages. Fluent in arabic, turkish, good in russian, greek of course, not bad in romanian and forgot another one.

From where do you know those languages and why?

Because being a memeber of the PPSH wasn't only about talking crap on stakhanovist Albanians producing more than a rigged VW engine. I'm from south Albania, if you don't know 3 languages you can't survive there (Albanian, Greek, Italian). Plus our main exit door for many years was only Yugoslavia (that's 4). Working in Brussels for almost 2 decades makes it 5 and almost sic (although I use Dutch as a last resort weapon),  And then you have English. Which was compulsory for outbound comissions (7). Turkish and Farsi it's more of a hobby. Although with the Iranians coming back in my old city it's becoming more than that. There's money to be made and Iranians are outstanding merchants. Plus I'm an Old World kind of guy, even though the current situation, for instance, there are many things I see as my one when some Alevi Ane gets down and prepars Gözleme or Byrek and sets up the ground floor tables. Part of my nieghbourhood were Bektashi. It's the Balkans man, it's all about being so different that you end up being the same people.

You should come some times, see how beautiful it is, when we don't figth to death.

KoTeMoRe wrote:I speak all the 4 nasties. Italian, French, English, Serbo-Croat, understand enough Turkish and Farsi and off course Albanian, which is my mother tongue.

Impressive.

Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

Impressive.

Indeed, my respect.

I find it very hard to learn new languages. I kind of struggle to get my ass up to learn chinese.

Werewolf wrote:

Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

Impressive.

Indeed, my respect.

I find it very hard to learn new languages. I kind of struggle to get my ass up to learn chinese.

It's the future ;-)/

Werewolf wrote:

Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

Impressive.

Indeed, my respect.

I find it very hard to learn new languages. I kind of struggle to get my ass up to learn chinese.

Học tiếng Việt đê

(try Vietnamese)

higurashihougi wrote:

Werewolf wrote:

Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

Impressive.

Indeed, my respect.

I find it very hard to learn new languages. I kind of struggle to get my ass up to learn chinese.

Học tiếng Việt đê

(try Vietnamese)

I know some thing.

Vu do!

and

njan njan.