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    Post  ult Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:41 pm

    Is it just me, or the western press is mostly silent about all of this?
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    Post  Kimppis Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:55 pm

    ult wrote:Is it just me, or the western press is mostly silent about all of this?

    Hmm... Not really. I've seen quite a few articles. Not to mention that it's not like this was the first time Russia launched cruise missiles against ISIS (albeit it was the first time they used strategic bombers). Russia has been conducting strikes for a while already, so in my opinion it's not surprising.
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    Post  TheArmenian Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:01 pm

    ult wrote:Is it just me, or the western press is mostly silent about all of this?

    I have been following the BBC and CCN from the moment I learned about the strikes. I normally don't even bother to listen to their bovine excrement.
    This time I wanted to watch their reaction.

    They did not even mention a word about the strikes in the beginning. They just said that VVP was accusing ISIS for the airline crash.
    Later on (a couple of hours later) they barely mentioned about Russian strikes. But they provided a more extensive coverage of French strikes.
    From then on, and with each passing hour, they are (reluctantly) giving a tad more coverage on the Russian attacks.
    Only recently they did briefly show quick glimpses of the clips released by the Russian MoD.
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    Post  Werewolf Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:14 pm

    I will question anyones sanity if they believe just for a second that the west or anyone in the west is to be trusted especially when they are till this fucking very day are supporting the terrorists.

    Finding passports on terrorists... sure you need to be lobotomized to believe that this is genuine terrorism and not a flase flag.


    If you truelly think anyone would change his politics to cooperate with russia and totaly overthrow western NWO plans of overthrowing one government after another which is planned to have free access to russia and its resources then your brain has reached expiring date and so evidently by such remarks and believes.

    The west would not change their course and politics and intentions to overthrow any government as necessary just because there are 130 worthless nobodies killed in a false flag. They would not change their politics even 1.000.000 french would have been killed. You really believe such jews like Olande will give a fuck about french people or anyone in the west? That is politics it has no morality, just actions and reactions nothing else.

    Yes i said it again and i will continue whereever jews are in power to call them out for what they are and it will be more and more open to even imbeciles that there are to many jews as leaders in countries which they have no realtions with.

    I just for once want to know what makes you believe that France has changed now their politics? I mean my brain can't even work on such retarded level to just ignore all facts and the irrationality in such believes.
    I want to know your thought process how can someone come to the conclusion the west is not truelly evil and just changed their NWO politics to, restoring stability in Syria right at the same time when the very same fucked up french are supporting the same terrorists? Jews have been spotted dozen times to train and command ISIS, FSA, Al-CIAda and Nazis in Ukraine, reported by Haaretz a jewish newspaper not some NPD or brown newspaper, that is not anti-semitism, they are khazarik scum from europe. So tell me please how can an alledgley functional brain come to such absurd ideas of trusting and believing the west, which do not even have a nationality anymore. No french man is leading france but foreigners with such mentality and identify themselfs as such.
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    Post  max steel Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:25 pm

    Perhaps the most overlooked passage in all of the leaked documents that have surfaced thus far is the following from a declassified Pentagon report dated August 2012 and obtained by Judicial Watch:







    ..there is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist Principality in eastern Syria (Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran).”
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    Post  auslander Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:53 pm

    Werewolf wrote:I will question anyones sanity if they believe just for a second that the west or anyone in the west is to be trusted especially when they are till this fucking very day are supporting the terrorists.

    Finding passports on terrorists... sure you need to be lobotomized to believe that this is genuine terrorism and not a flase flag.


    If you truelly think anyone would change his politics to cooperate with russia and totaly overthrow western NWO plans of overthrowing one government after another which is planned to have free access to russia and its resources then your brain has reached expiring date and so evidently by such remarks and believes.

    The west would not change their course and politics and intentions to overthrow any government as necessary just because there are 130 worthless nobodies killed in a false flag. They would not change their politics even 1.000.000 french would have been killed. You really believe such jews like Olande will give a fuck about french people or anyone in the west? That is politics it has no morality, just actions and reactions nothing else.

    Yes i said it again and i will continue whereever jews are in power to call them out for what they are and it will be more and more open to even imbeciles that there are to many jews as leaders in countries which they have no realtions with.

    I just for once want to know what makes you believe that France has changed now their politics? I mean my brain can't even work on such retarded level to just ignore all facts and the irrationality in such believes.
    I want to know your thought process how can someone come to the conclusion the west is not truelly evil and just changed their NWO politics to, restoring stability in Syria right at the same time when the very same fucked up french are supporting the same terrorists? Jews have been spotted dozen times to train and command ISIS, FSA, Al-CIAda and Nazis in Ukraine, reported by Haaretz a jewish newspaper not some NPD or brown newspaper, that is not anti-semitism, they are khazarik scum from europe. So tell me please how can an alledgley functional brain come to such absurd ideas of trusting and believing the west, which do not even have a nationality anymore. No french man is leading france but foreigners with such mentality and identify themselfs as such.

    No where in my little rant will you find the word 'trust'. Your difference of opinion is noted and understood. With 6000 dead civilians in Novorossiya in 18 months I am more than aware that The World could care less. The homage to 130 dead in France is lip service and also shows exactly what they think of our dead 6000 men, women and children, let alone the wounded and maimed for life. I trust The West, or any politician for that matter, as much as I would trust a Miami crack head street whore with my wallet and I equate politicians right up there with said street whore.

    That being said, at this moment it seems that Mother Russia is waxing and The West is waining. The totality of either progress will last longer than my prospective 20 more years of life. So be it, but for the moment I will attempt to keep my finger on the pulse of events and comment to the best of my limited mental capacity.
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    Post  Guest Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:57 pm



    The MoD has released a video of the strategic bombers launching their attack on ISIS/moderate rebels.
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    Post  ult Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:03 pm

    Ivan the Colorado wrote:
    The MoD has released a video of the strategic bombers launching their attack on ISIS/moderate rebels.

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    Post  sepheronx Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:05 pm

    I predict that France will drop a bomb on Assad and his men and then state "oops, it was a mistake". I will pin the blame on Russia for allowing this and never trust a single thing from Putin again.  If Russians are dumb enough to believe that it was a mistake, then they are doomed.  As werewolf stated, the wests objective is the same. They want assad gone. They know they couldnt get to him alone from afar so they had to trick the Russians into thinking it is about fighting ISIS and then use the opportunity to strike Assad. And then Russia would lose Tartus base and hace nothing left in the Med and continue to be segregated from others.

    Purely my prediction of course. I think this is a massive mistake. Russia needs a real leader who can be tough against the west. Not one that falls for the US funded terrorism schemes and believes in having to join forces to fight them.  When they are doing fine without the west assisting.


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    Post  ult Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:06 pm

    sepheronx wrote:I predict that France will drop a bomb on Assad and his men and then state "oops, it was a mistake". I will pin the blame on Russia for allowing this and never trust a single thing from Putin again.  If Russians are dumb enough to believe that it was a mistake, then they are doomed.  As werewolf stated, the wests objective is the same. They want assad gone. They know they couldnt get to him alone from afar so they had to trick the Russians into thinking it is about fighting ISIS and then use the opportunity to strike Assad. And then Russia would lose Tartus base and hace nothing left in the Med and continue to be segregated from others.

    I think this is a massive mistake.

    This is ridiculous. Won't happen.
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:11 pm

    How can you be sure? Remember France saying they wont bomb Gaddaffi but prevent planes from striking the so called freedom fighters? Then started to bomb Gaddaffi and his men, ran out of bombs so had to use concrete bombs? Yes, that was France. Medvedev was foolish to trust them, and Putin was PM at the time. Putin clearly showing he is also foolish to trust the french.

    Question is, what if it does happen? What will you say then?
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    Post  ult Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:16 pm

    Because Assad is as safe as he's ever been. There are Russian boots on the ground, planes in the sky and ships in the sea. How can you compare this situation to Lybia and Gaddafi? Nobody will touch SAA troops. And Putin and Hollande made some kind of deal as they will meet in Moscow on November 26th.
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:22 pm

    And you think Russia will take down French planes or ships if they strike Assad? You should know by now agreements are worthless - see the agreements about nato not expanding to Russias borders, and you will see how the fucks in the west dont care about agreements if it doesnt benefit them.

    Let me also say that those planes are really simply beauty queens and thats it.  Pretty pathetic Russia didnt bomb Ukraine to high heaven when their own territory was compromised by Ukrainian military and people were killed. But you somrhow expect Putin to shoot down French equipment if they strike Assad?

    For having a larger army than france, Russian politicians are having their balls squeezed it seems and are spineless.
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    Post  Werewolf Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:25 pm

    ult wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:I predict that France will drop a bomb on Assad and his men and then state "oops, it was a mistake". I will pin the blame on Russia for allowing this and never trust a single thing from Putin again.  If Russians are dumb enough to believe that it was a mistake, then they are doomed.  As werewolf stated, the wests objective is the same. They want assad gone. They know they couldnt get to him alone from afar so they had to trick the Russians into thinking it is about fighting ISIS and then use the opportunity to strike Assad. And then Russia would lose Tartus base and hace nothing left in the Med and continue to be segregated from others.

    I think this is a massive mistake.

    This is ridiculous. Won't happen.

    Ridiculous is what the West is mumbling. Assad GO, finance of all terrorist groups there fucking are and then for worthless lifes of just a few french man which olande the khazar does not give a shit about and now he wants to destroy his very own mercenaries on the ground?

    Ridiculous is people that believe this crap.

    Like Sepheronx said, they couldn't get anywhere close to overthrow assad not with mercenaries in dozens over dozens of terrorist groups all armed, trained and thrown at Syrian Arab Army with absolutley no gain in 4 years to actually overthrow Assad, they bitched around of Russias bombing of their terrorist, so their 3rd attempt of overthrowing Assad did not work and now out of the fucking sudden like a 4 year old that does not get a cooky by crying and throwing a tantrum wants to become your friend for the cooki he wanted so much with spewing curse and bile. If you can't see through this 4 year olds niveau of politics you shouldn't be involved in such conversations at all. That is there only possible way how they can get their airplanes into syria. We know for fact they do not want to target ISIS, they probably to so just to make a media war on how good the fucking frog eaters are, genuinley help Assad against ISIS and then out of sudden something happens, a miss aimed bomb, cruise missile that was hecked by North Koreans and killed Assad. You can bet on it.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:26 pm

    sepheronx wrote:And you think Russia will take down French planes or ships if they strike Assad? You should know by now agreements are worthless - see the agreements about nato not expanding to Russias borders, and you will see how the fucks in the west dont care about agreements if it doesnt benefit them.

    Let me also say that those planes are really simply beauty queens and thats it.  Pretty pathetic Russia didnt bomb Ukraine to high heaven when their own territory was compromised by Ukrainian military and people were killed. But you somrhow expect Putin to shoot down French equipment if they strike Assad?

    For having a larger army than france, Russian politicians are having their balls squeezed it seems and are spineless.

    Lel calm down, Putin just won the damn war for Assad with the Iranians wrecking havoc on the moderate beheaders.
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    Post  Werewolf Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:28 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:And you think Russia will take down French planes or ships if they strike Assad? You should know by now agreements are worthless - see the agreements about nato not expanding to Russias borders, and you will see how the fucks in the west dont care about agreements if it doesnt benefit them.

    Let me also say that those planes are really simply beauty queens and thats it.  Pretty pathetic Russia didnt bomb Ukraine to high heaven when their own territory was compromised by Ukrainian military and people were killed. But you somrhow expect Putin to shoot down French equipment if they strike Assad?

    For having a larger army than france, Russian politicians are having their balls squeezed it seems and are spineless.

    Lel calm down, Putin just won the damn war for Assad with the Iranians wrecking havoc on the moderate beheaders.

    Destroying mercenaries but allowing the masters of the mercenaries free entry with invitation to Syria is not what one would describe as winning the damn war for Assad more the contrary.
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:29 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:And you think Russia will take down French planes or ships if they strike Assad? You should know by now agreements are worthless - see the agreements about nato not expanding to Russias borders, and you will see how the fucks in the west dont care about agreements if it doesnt benefit them.

    Let me also say that those planes are really simply beauty queens and thats it.  Pretty pathetic Russia didnt bomb Ukraine to high heaven when their own territory was compromised by Ukrainian military and people were killed. But you somrhow expect Putin to shoot down French equipment if they strike Assad?

    For having a larger army than france, Russian politicians are having their balls squeezed it seems and are spineless.

    Lel calm down, Putin just won the damn war for Assad with the Iranians wrecking havoc on the moderate beheaders.

    Will you say the same thing if a French bomb ends up killing Assad?
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    Post  ult Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:30 pm

    Did you notice just now that France and USA have been flying over Syria for more than a year? Did they hit SAA? Then why would they start doing it right now of all times, when public opinion couldn't care less if Assad stays in power, as long as ISIS is destroyed? France doesn't have balls to strike SAA troops because they know that there are Russian advisers on the ground, on the frontlines. Everything has changed. And everyone know it. Looks like you guys are slow to react.
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    Post  ult Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:31 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Will you say the same thing if a French bomb ends up killing Assad?

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    Post  sepheronx Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:35 pm

    Alright. Let us wait and see. I will be happy if I am wrong. I will laugh and nearly cry if I am correct.

    So let us see. I will boomark this page so that I can use it later.
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    Post  ult Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:37 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Alright. Let us wait and see. I will be happy if I am wrong. I will laugh and nearly cry if I am correct.

    So let us see. I will boomark this page so that I can use it later.

    Please.

    There are even more interesting things to come.
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    Post  max steel Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:37 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Alright. Let us wait and see. I will be happy if I am wrong. I will laugh and nearly cry if I am correct.

    So let us see. I will boomark this page so that I can use it later.

    This thread will get over in few days . lol1
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    Post  Cyberspec Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:38 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Lel calm down, Putin just won the damn war for Assad with the Iranians wrecking havoc on the moderate beheaders.

    Absolutely.

    Report to Putin on the progress of the operation against (take note: ISIL and other terrorist groups  and bandit formations). Apart from the RuAF actions a substantial part of Gerasimov's report is on the SAA progress on the fronts...in other words - joint operation

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    Post  Werewolf Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:53 pm

    ult wrote:Did you notice just now that France and USA have been flying over Syria for more than a year? Did they hit SAA? Then why would they start doing it right now of all times, when public opinion couldn't care less if Assad stays in power, as long as ISIS is destroyed? France doesn't have balls to strike SAA troops because they know that there are Russian advisers on the ground, on the frontlines. Everything has changed. And everyone know it. Looks like you guys are slow to react.

    The american'ts have claimed to have been operating F-22 in strikes against terrorists, never happened just a PR. They were doing nothing but flying in perimeters and not entering SAA territory which has russian SHORAD systems. They did nothing but strike outskirts of SAA positions to make path for their ISIS mercenaries. ISIS grew under US air strike now ask yourself how is that possible? This question can only have one single answer and everyone or almost everyone here denies it but has no explanation or answer to give.

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