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    Post  sepheronx Sun May 24, 2015 7:50 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Monarchist wrote:
    George1 wrote:ISIL Captures Last Syria-Controlled Border Crossing with Iraq

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150521/1022433266.html#ixzz3ao7ZEWed
    Syria and its army are completely falling apart. May God help its people and I can only imagine what will happen to all the christians and the holy sites.

    Yes and you can see the state of their army in the Syrian pics thread.

    Looks more like a 3rd world militia now. They're finished, I think No

    Not quite. Reason for the third world looking equipment has more to do with change of tactics and brining in old reserves.

    T-55's in Syria are being "upgraded" by Syrians with basic, cheap armor (which is working) and replacing the 100mm gun with something faster hitting. Majority of terrorists are running on the ground or driving jeeps, so it is easier for a tank that is slower shooting, less ammo available and older armor in getting knocked out, than something faster hitting. They gained ground in some areas and lost in others, but doesnt mean the end. They still have an airforce pounding the terrorists and a ground force still fighting strong (I see ar more modern infantry gear on Syrian army side now than I have seen prior to this conflict).

    Maybe they need to take a page from the Novorussians and start to use more artillery and drones to spot.
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    Post  macedonian Mon May 25, 2015 8:40 am

    Secret Pentagon Report Reveals US "Created" ISIS As A "Tool" To Overthrow Syria's President Assad


    ZeroHedge wrote:From the first sudden, and quite dramatic, appearance of the fanatical Islamic group known as ISIS which was largely unheard of until a year ago, on the world's stage and which promptly replaced the worn out and tired al Qaeda as the world's terrorist bogeyman, we suggested that the "straight to beheading YouTube clip" purpose behind the Saudi Arabia-funded Islamic State was a simple one: use the Jihadists as the vehicle of choice to achieve a political goal: depose of Syria's president Assad, who for years has stood in the way of a critical Qatari natural gas pipeline, one which could dethrone Russia as Europe's dominant - and belligerent - source of energy, reaching an interim climax with the unsuccessful Mediterranean Sea military build up of 2013, which nearly resulted in quasi-world war.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Mon May 25, 2015 9:39 am

    FP is right, I think.

    Syrian army is slowly disintegrating since well, 2013 when they started relying more and more on NDF, now they rely exclusively on Iran for their survival. Some estimations say there are now 80,000 foreign fighters fighting for Assad from various Shia countries - reliance on mercenaries is not a good way to win wars. Gaddafi learned that lession too late and he bites the dust now.

    I'm sure that no later than 2016 Assad will be no more.

    @Macedonian:
    You're wrong IMHO.
    ISIS has a dismal record of cooperation with other rebels. They literally can't cooperate with anyone else. The only significant way in which IS helped topple Assad is by starting the second front in Iraq and cutting the flow of Iraqi Shia militias from Iraq. Otherwise, their anti-Assad activities have been limited to sparsely populated areas of the country, in the East - Ar Raqqa, Deir Ezzor, Tadmur etc. Not in the west and south where most of the fighting takes place.
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    Post  macedonian Mon May 25, 2015 10:48 am

    Well we don't know exactly what American strategy is at this point...or rather if they are satisfied with things being the way they are ATM, in order to later make a push and conquer more ground, or topple Al-Assad completely.
    They are losing nothing as things stand now. Not a single American soldier was lost (as far as we know) they're fighting this war through proxy. They may well be content this thing going on and creating chaos all around.
    Besides, there were some very suspicious air-drops of weapons that "mistakenly" fell into ISIS' hands.
    Thing is - Iran lost a great deal of influence, as did Russia...at least in the areas that were under Syrian control, and are now under the control of IS/ISIL.
    Only Israel and Saudi Arabia have gained in this conflict and, by extension, so did America.

    Though, I can't really take credit for all the opinions stated in that article, found it on Zero Hedge and though I'd share it with the crowd here.
    Just another POW to throw into the mix. Very Happy
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    Post  max steel Mon May 25, 2015 11:55 am

    Syria in Last 24 Hours: Army Takes Full Control of ISIL Bastions in Hasaka Province
    The Syrian army gained control of ISIL’s strategic bastions in Hasaka province, killing tens of terrorists and injuring dozens more in fierce clashes.
    The Syrian troops took full control of the town of Tal Baroud and al-Shaddadi al-Houl intersection in the Northeastern Hasaka province.
    The army units destroyed the ISIL’s strongholds along the main road connecting Hasaka and Abyad village in the Southwestern countryside of Hasaka.
    The Syrian army, meantime, continued to advance against the ISIL terrorists in an area between Sawda and Abd villages.
    Also in the past 24 hours, large groups of militants were killed in a Syrian army air raid on terrorists’ bastion in Aleppo countryside.
    The Syrian warplanes struck Al-Sha’ar region in the Eastern parts of Aleppo and killed at least 40 terrorists.
    Several notorious terrorists, including Abdel Karim al-Abd nicknamed Abu Fauz and Mohamed al-Issa also known as Abu Mahmoud Jebeli, were among those killed in the army’s military operations in Al-Sha’ar region.
    Official sources confirmed last week that the Syrian Army’s offensives against the rebels’ hideouts in Aleppo resulted in the killing and wounding of tens of militants.
    The sources said that the militants’ concentration centers in the surrounding areas of Aleppo Air Force Academy, Tal Refaat, Mare’ and Anadan in the countryside of the Northern province of Aleppo were massively targeted by the army men.
    The sources went on to say that the rebels’ suffered major damages as a result of the army’s operations.

    Meantime, military sources announced that the Syrian Armed Forces targeted a long convoy of the rebel groups’ vehicles and cut their supply line between the Southern province of Dara’a and the Southwestern province of al-Quneitra.

    The sources said that the militants’ supply route from Dara’a to al-Quneitra near Tal Mas’hara was stormed by the army troops, which resulted in the killing of dozens of fighters and cut of their logistic route.

    Elsewhere, the provincial sources announced that the Syrian Army stormed the terrorist groups’ strongholds in two key spots in the Southern Dara’a province, and pushed them back from the battlefronts.




    The sources said that the terrorists’ positions in Tal Antar in the Northwestern countryside of Dara’a, were targeted by the army men, who killed tens of fighters and forced them to retreat from the fighting areas.



    If you want to follow what is exactly happening in Stria stop following mainstream media and even zerohedge . Follow ' Syrian Perspective ' on facebook .

    The sources went on to say that heavy clashes erupted between the army man and the terrorist groups in the Northern countryside of Dara’a city, in the nearby areas of Dael Town, which resulted in the killing or wounding of rebel fighters.
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    Post  GarryB Tue May 26, 2015 8:51 am


    Un hélicoptère syrien bloque près d'Alep





    Https: http://-fr.news.yahoo.com/h%C3%A9licopt%C3%A8re syrien s-% C3% A9crase-pr% C3% A8s-Dalep-11 1543339.html
    A Syrian helicopter crashes near Aleppo

    Sorry... the link above does not seem to work.

    BTW please post in English...
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    Post  Vann7 Tue May 26, 2015 8:48 pm


    Please make viral..

    New classified documents surface from the US government ,how they planned to facilitate
    the Rise of ISIS to isolate the Syria.

    http://www.syrianperspective.com/2015/05/american-treachery-u-s-plans-islamic-state-in-eastern-syria-documents-going-viral.html

    It reveals the level of cooperation between US federal Government agencies and ISIL .
    There is concrete evidence of weapons captured by the Syrian government from the terrorist
    ,that through their serial number were traced to a US and Saudi Arabia weapons transfer.

    The document states how ISIL are US assets ,that they use to achieve its interest in the middle
    east. While nothing of this is new for me.. is interesting than official US government papers surface ..

    ISIL , Alnusra ,FSA are just terror networks of extremist islamic mercenaries armed by the Anglozionist powers and its middle east allies.. each of those terror networds are composed of thousands of private jihadist grups.. with the name of the leader on each one.. Alnusra front is a Qatar creation, ISIL a US/Israel creation.. FSA apparently a Saudi Creation.. Alqaeda a CIA creation.

    The fighting that happened between terrorist groups happens because terrorist are terrorist ,and are the most low life people you can find on the planet.. and its impossible for them to not
    promote violence whenever they are.. So it was normal in Syria to see Alqaeda vs Alqaeda ,or ISIS groups vs Isis.. whenever a major difference triggers between 2 leaders..

    The Syria army part of its strategy have been to use its army ,and leave a safe passage for terrorist to escape.. to try an group different groups of different leaders together..That way they kill each other so Syrian Army do not have to do it.. before ISIS surface in IRAQ fighting.
    there was reports every day of clashes between Rival leaders of 2 different terrorist groups..
    FSA vs Alnusra .. ISIS vs Alnusra , and so on.. in the end FSA collapse , and they all move to the other groups either defect to ISIS or defect to Alnusra.. So much for obama "moderates"
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    Post  par far Tue May 26, 2015 9:33 pm

    I think Iran has to intervene in Iraq to take some pressure off Syria, Russia has a huge stake in this as well. This is happening because they want to use take a gas pipeline to Europe from one of the Arab countries, to reduce Russian infulence from European market and Assad said no. I think both Russia and Iran can offer more to Syria Assad.
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    Post  max steel Tue May 26, 2015 9:48 pm

    Just like 1990s chechen war . US funded terrorism got BTC pipeline built reducing Russia's leverage by supplying gas from caspian nation azerbaijan to turkey including georgia . Now the same trick used again to Build Qatari pipeline . Well apart from supplying weapons russia is doing nothing . They should send in their planes , attack helos , warships and must bomb the isis foothold areas in syria .
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    Post  par far Tue May 26, 2015 10:31 pm

    max steel wrote:Just like 1990s chechen war . US funded terrorism got BTC pipeline built reducing Russia's leverage by supplying gas from caspian nation azerbaijan to turkey including georgia . Now the same trick used again to Build Qatari pipeline . Well apart from supplying weapons russia is doing nothing . They should send in their planes , attack helos , warships and must bomb the isis foothold areas in syria .


    I don't why the Russian government has been slow to act, I think Putin and company think that the west will just forgive them. Just read history and you will find out if they forgive.
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    Post  Manov Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:36 am

    could be possible for Russia to send a "symbolic" force to help fight IS (like 4 su-34 and a pair of su-30sm with a il-78) to do some pinpoint mission, patrols and even some CAS. Politically the USAF operating there would have a hard time deciding if engaging those planes or not. And if Russia is audacious, bomb IS positions that the US neglects (or avoid) to do so. It could be a very good signal (and press). Not so costly (i think) and more symbolic than really turning the tide, but actually showing some results.

    I know it is really hard to happen but, is it feasible?
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    Post  George1 Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:43 am

    Qatar Tries to 'Mainstream' Al-Nusra Front to Topple Syria’s Assad

    Experts claim that the government of Qatar has portrayed the al-Nusra Front as a moderate fighting force to gain support from Sunni allies in an effort to oust Syrian President Bashar Assad.

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — The government of Qatar has portrayed the al-Nusra Front as a moderate fighting force to gain support from Sunni allies in an effort to oust Syrian President Bashar Assad, experts told Sputnik.

    “The Qataris have convinced the new Saudi king that to topple Assad and punch a hole right in the middle of the Iranian sphere of influence in the region, they have to play with Jabhat al-Nusra [al-Nusra Front] and nudge them away from al-Qaeda,” Middle East geopolitics expert Kamran Bokhari told Sputnik.

    During an exclusive interview with the Qatar-based Al Jazeera media outlet on Wednesday, al-Nusra Front leader Abu Mohammed al-Golani claimed his group had no intention of targeting the West, and only had designs on toppling the Shia Alawite Assad regime.

    In 2012, the US State Department designated the al-Nusra Front as a terrorist organization and the UN blacklisted them in 2014 as an alias of al-Qaeda in Iraq.

    University of Oklahoma Professor Joshua Landis told Sputnik that Qatar and Al Jazeera’s attempts to spin the al-Nusra Front as moderate is certainly a risky approach. However, for Qatar and its allies it is a necessary evil for winning the Sunni-Shia struggle.

    “Yes, it is dangerous, but the alternative, according to the Sunni leaders, is to leave Assad in power,” Landis said.

    US President Barack Obama, Landis added, has not publicly criticized Turkey's, Qatar's and Saudi Arabia's push to mainstream the al-Nusra Front.

    Heritage Foundation Director of Foreign Policy Studies Steven Bucci told Sputnik that the Al Jazeera interview depicting the al-Nusra Front as not being anti-Western was hard to believe, especially considering the group was a spin-off from the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI).

    The al-Nusra Front was a subsidiary of ISI, itself an Al Qaeda branch in Iraq, Bucci explained, but it spun-off from ISI to become Al Qaeda’s affiliate in Syria.

    “So al-Nusra is still an al-Qaeda affiliate. The Al Jazeera article is nonsense,” Bucci concluded.

    Syria has been in a state of civil war since 2011 with many insurgent groups, such ISIL and the al-Nusra Front, active in the country and aiming to overthrow the Assad regime.

    Russia has repeatedly stated that Bashar Assad is a legitimate president of Syria, and that only the people of Syria should choose their government and leaders.

    In January and April 2015, Moscow hosted two rounds of talks between Syrian government and opposition groups. During the second round of talks, the conflicting sides defined a framework for future negotiations on the settlement of the Syrian crisis.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/analysis/20150602/1022836252.html#ixzz3bstrJsqS
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    Post  flamming_python Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:31 am

    Manov wrote:could be possible for Russia to send a "symbolic" force to help fight IS (like 4 su-34 and a pair of su-30sm with a il-78) to do some pinpoint mission, patrols and even some CAS. Politically the USAF operating there would have a hard time deciding if engaging those planes or not. And if Russia is audacious, bomb IS positions that the US neglects (or avoid) to do so. It could be a very good signal (and press). Not so costly (i think) and more symbolic than really turning the tide, but actually showing some results.

    I know it is really hard to happen but, is it feasible?

    Symbolic?

    Paradrop a VDV division into IS heartlands, and show these GLA-wannabees what real warfare is pirat

    Make an immediate course for the nearest SAA, Kurd or Iraqi controlled territory - with the airborne vehicles' speed it shouldn't take longer than 3 days to reach.

    And enter every single occupied town, village and poorly-defended city along the way, round up all the ISIS fighters, administrators, moral police, and execute. I'm talkin' full Einsatztruppen style. No quarter asked for, no quarter given.
    Any well-defended settlements should simply be avoided. The point is to strike at the soft-underbelly, ISIS can't be everywhere at once.

    ISIS offensives across every front will be thrown into disarray and ripe for counter-attack, as ISIS starts trying to gather forces to counter the VDV rampaging through their territory.
    Any formation approching the VDV or redploying in the vicinity should be sitting ducks for supporting airpower.

    Nice to dream anyway paratrooper
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    Post  collegeboy16 Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:26 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Symbolic?

    Paradrop a VDV division into IS heartlands, and show these GLA-wannabees what real warfare is pirat

    Make an immediate course for the nearest SAA, Kurd or Iraqi controlled territory - with the airborne vehicles' speed it shouldn't take longer than 3 days to reach.

    And enter every single occupied town, village and poorly-defended city along the way, round up all the ISIS fighters, administrators, moral police, and execute. I'm talkin' full Einsatztruppen style. No quarter asked for, no quarter given.
    Any well-defended settlements should simply be avoided. The point is to strike at the soft-underbelly, ISIS can't be everywhere at once.

    ISIS offensives across every front will be thrown into disarray and ripe for counter-attack, as ISIS starts trying to gather forces to counter the VDV rampaging through their territory.
    Any formation approching the VDV or redploying in the vicinity should be sitting ducks for supporting airpower.

    Nice to dream anyway paratrooper
    with the superior mobility of the VDVs vehicles they could do something like drawing creeps into mobs and then wiping them out with powerful AoE attack in mmorpgs. first, attack settlements to provoke a reaction and once they follow you in their nice hiluxes go offroad onto the next target. they could follow you by road or in the desert but the tracked BMDs would easily leave them in the dust, so you have time for the next target. rinse and repeat until you drawn the ire of most of them and they are now in neat mile long convoy lines just waiting for an A-10(im sure uncle sam wouldnt mind, rather he would love to) to snort them like tony montana does coke.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:02 am

    I think the VDV would struggle actually in that job... because I rather suspect that ISIS is so successful because the target cities and towns they choose they choose because of large Sunni populations in each city and town.

    Liberation roles are much easier with the support of the local population... when potential supporters in the local population have already been purged by the occupiers most of what is left is either enemy or too afraid to resist or too weak to assist.
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    Post  Monarchist Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:49 pm

    Russia abandoned Assad and Syria a long time ago. No wonder they have no friends or allies in the world.

    Iran’s Soleimani vows Syria “surprise”
    The IRGC Quds Force chief made a surprise visit to Syria over the weekend near the frontlines outside Latakia.
    https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/NewsReports/565369-irans-soleimani-vows-syria-surprise?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#ixzz3bvqz9TyM

    I trust Soleimani more then I trust the words of russian diplomat and government.
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:46 pm

    Monarchist wrote:Russia abandoned Assad and Syria a long time ago. No wonder they have no friends or allies in the world.

    Iran’s Soleimani vows Syria “surprise”
    The IRGC Quds Force chief made a surprise visit to Syria over the weekend near the frontlines outside Latakia.
    https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/NewsReports/565369-irans-soleimani-vows-syria-surprise?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#ixzz3bvqz9TyM

    I trust Soleimani more then I trust the words of russian diplomat and government.

    https://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2015/05/25/novorossia-tartus-putin/

    This was in May of this year. Two major landing ships sending supplies to Syria. No, Russia hasn't abandoned Syria. They just dont announce what they do outright.
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    Post  Vann7 Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:21 pm

    Yes ..Russia is sending lots of new "secret supplies" ,which Syrians calls Good things
    in this week.. to tartus port..  So be prepared to see major new weapons in the hands of Syrian
    Government..  Russia have their own war ,right at their borders.. so it will be foolish for Russia
    to spread its army in Syria when they have another war in progress at their borders..


    Here a new interesting Reports.. a must read for everyone.. the evidence
    Anyone needs that Shows how US and Turkey are arming ISIS..


    Exclusive Breaking: US Accusations against Syria Backfire(Updated)

    And Iraq Proves America is Aiding ISIS, including setting up "black ops" ambushes against the Iraqi Army

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/06/02/us-accuses-syria-of-aiding-isis/


    Even CNN Pentagon front end media is now saying US trained saints mercenaries have joined ISIS..

    http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/29/politics/isis-man-trained-in-us/

    But this is done to counter the strong new information and evidence surfacing of US support for ISIS.. CNN is watering down the storm.. by trying to make it look is a "rare" isolated case of "moderates" fighters moving to the side of ISIS.. they also covers it ,blaming Russia from training him too ..  When in reality US have been helping terrorist groups from the very start of the conflict in 2011. Today ISIS fight with lots of American and NATO weapons.. that do not exist in Syria or IRAQ arsenal. for example Anti Tank weapons from European Czech country
    that the CIA gave to Saudi Arabia ,now in the hands of ISIS.. not surprisingly. No

    ISIS supply base in Turkey and Saudi Arabia and Golan Heigh Israel controlled zone and.. from there they use their airforce and artillery to cover the entry of terrorist in Syria and IRAQ.

    The first video clearly shows US and ISIS are on the same side.. US airforce does not coordinate
    anything with IRAQ or Syria and they drop weapons and food to ISIS forces fighting Syrian Government and IRAQ.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:19 am

    Russia abandoned Assad and Syria a long time ago. No wonder they have no friends or allies in the world.

    Assad was looking west when the west turned on him.

    Russia had good relations with Assad and Libya but they were hardly best buddies, and certainly no signed agreements for mutual protection.

    Russia is not the USSR nor the US and is not bound to leap into conflicts around the world when their interests are at risk.

    Having said that Russia will protect Syria in the UNSC to ensure no sneak attack is launched politically, and I suspect with their new drive to replace old equipment in their arsenal will lead to a lot of equipment that is no longer needed and would be valuable for Syria and her current problems.

    However at the end of the day for a long term permanent solution to their problem I think Iran and Iraq and Syria need to get together and sort something out that will work for all of them and help defeat ISIS quicker.

    I rather suspect all three countries helping Yemen against Saudi Arabia might be a useful thing too... if Saudi Arabia backed off ISIS would likely not be so strong.

    Or you could be a western stooge that really doesn't care about the suffering of the people on the ground and don't care about long term solutions and just want to take a shot at Putin...
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    Post  Vann7 Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:37 am



    Very interesting interview.. George Gallay with the owner of Syrianperspective ,who have
    relatives in Syria and receive direct information from Syrian army soldiers general staff through
    his Syrian journalist sources.



    This is his website.. have near 2 millions of views.

    http://www.syrianperspective.com/2015/06/ziad-and-george-galloway-why-the-us-wont-stop-isis-from-taking-over-george-galloway-and-ziad-fadel.html

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    Post  OminousSpudd Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:54 am

    Vann7 wrote:

    This is his website..  have near 2 millions of views.

    http://www.syrianperspective.com/2015/06/ziad-and-george-galloway-why-the-us-wont-stop-isis-from-taking-over-george-galloway-and-ziad-fadel.html


    I've been needing one of these Colonel Cassad equivalents for the Syrian conflict. Many thanks, bookmarked.
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    Post  max steel Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:02 am

    i have been following syrian perspective on facebook for past 7 months . no surprise at all . he constantly updatrs syria situation and i have adviced earlier in commrnts too one should follow syrian perspective instead of any msm on syria isis war .
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:03 pm

    I heard Sanaa was lost to rebels? Is this true?
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    Post  max steel Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:08 pm

    sepheronx wrote:I heard Sanaa was lost to rebels? Is this true?
    follow syrian perspective . This thread is not so active .
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    Post  Cyberspec Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:44 am

    max steel wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:I heard Sanaa was lost to rebels? Is this true?
    follow syrian perspective  . This thread is not so active .

    He's a good antidote to the constant "Syria is lost" crowd (present here as well) but he exagerates the successes of the government side to put it mildly...still I love his colourful style of reporting - the SAA versus the Simian & Rodent hordes Cool

    Eg:

    Al-Jaanoodiyya:  The Syrian Air Force, flying Sukhoi bombers shellacked Al-Qaeda and killed a reported 43.  The rat terrorist propaganda outlets in England are claiming civilians were killed even though we know the citizens of Al-Jaanoodiyya were evacuated or had escaped long before the Al-Qaeda rodents came in. In any case, the mostly Chechen packs of vermin were vaporized by the SAAF.

    Al-Sanqara Village: A nest of rats was set upon by our eagles and nebulized, all 12 rodents inside now a puff of atoms carried by the wind.



    Kinsafra: SAAF again, and free to rain death on the slinking rodents as they fly undaunted from the Abu-Dhuhoor Airbase. No details about rat-stats.



    Abu Dhuhoor: The SAA unleashed a maelstrom of fire from Howitzers and mortars as Nusra/Alqaeda rodents were gathering for their next abysmal and nihilistic attack on the airbase’s perimeter. Their carcasses were seen, at times, flying upward like beads of hot oil in a pan, misshapen and grotesque,



    Read more at http://www.syrianperspective.com/2015/06/idlib-the-war-is-on-syrian-army-and-air-force-decimates-alqaeda-all-over-province-40-rodents-killed-in-al-jaanoodiyya-by-saar.html#kAsEmZSLLhV4DjJ8.99

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