Syrian Civil War: News

As Sa'iqa wrote:
I see no reason to blame USA for human rights abuse in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is a totally different culture, based on different values. On the other hand, there are lots of USA allies with excellent human rights record. Norway is a US ally and it's one of the most free and tolerant countries in the world, same with the entire Europe. Find just ONE Iranian or Russian ally with a similar record.

No reason to blame USA? First of all Saudi Arabia is a dictatorship a bad regime that has one of the biggest if not the biggest human rights abuses in the world and USA holds this scum of royal families in charge over the country just because this human scum of royal families sell S.Arabian oil for almost nothing to USA and recieve all this money for themselfs. And you are such a biased person, to bring Norway as US ally to make an invalid argument that USA is such a good guy. Norway has no oil that means it is a non factor doesn't matter if it's an ally or an enemy, no Oil no need for war or corrupting the country to make it to an "ally" for their oil.
Why only "human rights abuses" occur and chased by the self-claimed Justice of the World USA in countries with Oil or strategic important locations?
Almost the entire african continent is contaminated with human rights abuses by governments, militarisms, organisations that form entire own armies for regional power and so on? Why not one "allied" country of USA and NATO is accused for human rights abuses even when they are documented and very well known?
Because they don't give a single F*ck about it and cover it up, don't bring daily all the shit of African continent up, since it's the West that brings this shit to Africa, buy making trouble, looting them from their natural resources, supplying their little warlords with weapons, this is the reason why USA has 75% of the entire military world market.

Just strategy for more and more power and power comes through who holds the most natural resources by making to a monopoly.

America is the only country without human rights abuses i guess?
No Police brutality at demonstrations, no torture camps like Gitmo, people are not locked away just because they are activists, USA has no laws like Nazi Germany did to lock away people without charge and fair trial like NDAA and Patriot Act, but i guess this all are not human rights abuses since they don't surve the purpose to achieve something in favor of the glory mighty and always moral acting USA.

Maybe you should ask yourself to watch with bare eyes and not through your white,blue and red flagged glasses.

Well of course not all FSA are terrorists and bandits, but middle east is delicate thing. Once they let their revolution to be hijacked by radicals and Islamic they lost all credibility. There is no denying that there are big number of veteran terrorists fighting amongst them. And they all carry agenda.
Kurds on other hand look rather secular, but until recently they were fighting free for all.
Assad isn't angel himself, his government sided with terrorists too. But it can be said about all countries in the region.
Radicals in FSA and even some Syrian gov elements are fighting ethnic conflict, ethnic cleansing was done by both sides.
Only thing that pisses me off that West turns blind eye on rebel crimes and emphasise regime ones.
I say world and their opinions should care nothing to Syrians, it's their war and they have to fight it.

Just take a look from another perspective, we all know that USA and NATO are backing up FSA terrorists which form the majority and not syrians themselfs. All claim that this "civil" war has to end, but still USA and NATO supply,train and send terrorists into Syria to wage a war on Assads government, now what would USA do if it was in Syrian position and another country would send constantily terrorists and weapons into USA? They would already bombed the shit out of this country, but Syria is ofcourse not that powerful to start a war to cut off the cancer and not to deal with the symptoms.

The war will end only when the supply is cut and it's not a war of Sunni,Shia or anything nonsense like that they are just a tool to overtake the government by force and will later install their own puppets like they did dozens of times in diffrent nations before.

The US and Europe have much better human rights record than many of their allies. In The West (including USA) all people regardless of ethnicity, religion or social status have the same legal status. Everyone can take part in elections, everyone can preach any religion for as long as they don't harm anyone or incite hatred.

That's because The West is based on Christianity. Saudi Arabia (and other gulf countries) are based on Islam, a totally different ideology. You won't find any country based on Islamic law - be it UAE or Iran - that doesn't prescribe death penalty for apostasy, adultery or insulting the religion. This is in accordance with an example set by Muhammad.

Just compare this:
"Fighting has been enjoined upon you while it is hateful to you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not."(Al Qur'an 2:216)
or this:
"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those who are with him are ruthless to the unbelievers" (Qur'an 48:29)


To this:
"He who lives by the sword will die by the sword."(Matthew 26:52)
or:
"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" (Matthew 5:44)

What a bullcrap.
USA has one of the worst human rights abuse records world wide.
Who has concentration camps and already have jailed for weeks 911 demonstrants, who jails people without charge or trail for nothing else but beeing muslim? Who is profiling its entire nation? Who is abusing privacy of their own and dozens of other nations and spying on them? Who sends killer drones into suvereign countries to kill people just because the protocol states that possible "insurgents" are profiled as beeing in crowds, loitering at one spot, looking "suspicious" and even having fire arms makes a legal target for them in completly diffrent nation that even allows to own and carry their guns in publicy or their own yard. Now take all this protocol profiles that defines legitimate targets and apply them to USA, statistically every single american is a target since their are more firearms in private hands than people live there.

Who uses forbidden weaponary such as WMD's in every single war they fight? USA, Nuked Japan, used Chemical and Biological weapons in Korea,Vietnam,Afghanistan and Iraq, even polluded several nations with DU ammunition and still denies that the 400% cancer and deformation rate in Iraq has anything to do with the DU rounds USA has used for years.

USA has one of the worst human rights abuse records world wide, hands down!
Every single NATO partner of USA has much better human rights records, you know it don't deny it.

Werewolf wrote:USA has one of the worst human rights abuse records world wide.

Still better than North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Iran and many other countries... quite a long list. 

I don't understand your aversion towards The USA. In this country you can be a libertarian, a communist, practice Christianity, Islam, Buddhism or any other religion and you won't be harmed. In Iran for example if you openly reject Islam, you'll be executed. Same with AS, UAE etc. Muslim clerics in the USA do not fear for their safety as do their Christian counterparts in Muslim majority countries.

Werewolf wrote:Who uses forbidden weaponary such as WMD's in every single war they fight? USA, Nuked Japan, used Chemical and Biological weapons in Korea,Vietnam,Afghanistan and Iraq, even polluded several nations with DU ammunition and still denies that the 400% cancer and deformation rate in Iraq has anything to do with the DU rounds USA has used for years.

Don't know about the rest but... do you know what the invasion of Japan might have looked like if the US hadn't nuked it? It would be a bloodbath. Liberation of Germany or France would look like minor skirmishes compared to this. The Japanese themselves weren't hiding the fact that they'll keep fighting for as long as any Japanese capable of holding a weapon is alive.

Actually no.

The invasion of Japan was inflated to mythical levels, and the military itself said it wouldn't be as bad as claimed. They didn't even push for nuking it that hard.

It was more program inertia, not military necessity. They could have just kept fireboming them, surrender was imminent.

It depends on your definition of not bad. Remember that during the battle of Okinawa out of 120,000 defenders 95,000 were killed. On Iwo Jima 21.844 out of 22,060 defenders died. Note that The Japanese planned to mobilize several millions of men and arm them with everything they could find, even with kitchen knives or swords from museums. Could you imagine the masses of cannon fodder charging on US machine gun nests?

TR1 wrote:Actually no.

The invasion of Japan was inflated to mythical levels, and the military itself said it wouldn't be as bad as claimed. They didn't even push for nuking it that hard.

It was more program inertia, not military necessity. They could have just kept fireboming them, surrender was imminent.

Key word here being "surrender was imminent"  

All countries you have listed have much better human rights records than USA ,they don't comit one genocide after another through use of Weapons of Mass Destruction, they don't start wars justified by stupid magic words for the stupid publicity of USA like "Freedom" which USA didn't had for all people till late 60s like black people openly perscuted and harrassed even by cops, "Democracy" even that USA itself don't has any democracy just pseudo demoCRAZY with 2 major parties that run a stupid show for the stupid people where the winner is already declared and if not they have still the manipulated voting machines, like Bush cheated the election and the court declared it doesn't matter on the outcome he would still win without cheating...wow, now try to cheat in exam just to get a better grade in school as long it doesn't matter if you pass or not, maybe it will work, but it's ok it's just the presidental election. Accusing a dictator which they have installed in Iraq themselfs for human rights violation, of course exaggerated lies were added like the babies which were alledgly took out of the incubators, which was investigated and busted or the Nuclear weapons, but brought themselfs a DU pollution into Iraq and wasted lifes of several generations.
Yes USA has so much better human rights record that any Muslim country that maybe kill 100 per year compared with US millions over few years.

Dream your illusion untill the shit hits the fan.

Nukes on Japan were messages to Soviet Union. Of course land invasion could be avoided just by doing what was done before. Bombing them to bits with conventional weapons

Werewolf wrote:All countries you have listed have much better human rights records than USA ,they don't comit one genocide after another through use of Weapons of Mass Destruction, they don't start wars justified by stupid magic words for the stupid publicity of USA like "Freedom" which USA didn't had for all people till late 60s like black people openly perscuted and harrassed even by cops, "Democracy" even that USA itself don't has any democracy just pseudo demoCRAZY with 2 major parties that run a stupid show for the stupid people where the winner is already declared and if not they have still the manipulated voting machines, like Bush cheated the election and the court declared it doesn't matter on the outcome he would still win without cheating...wow, now try to cheat in exam just to get a better grade in school as long it doesn't matter if you pass or not, maybe it will work, but it's ok it's just the presidental election. Accusing a dictator which they have installed in Iraq themselfs for human rights violation, of course exaggerated lies were added like the babies which were alledgly took out of the incubators, which was investigated and busted or the Nuclear weapons, but brought themselfs a DU pollution into Iraq and wasted lifes of several generations.
Yes USA has so much better human rights record that any Muslim country that maybe kill 100 per year compared with US millions over few years.

Dream your illusion untill the shit hits the fan.

What millions? Iraq war killed some 150,000 civilians - most of whom were not victims of US Army but of Sunni-Shia internal war. Same with Afghanistan.

There were cases of deliebrate targeting of civilians but soldiers who commited these acts were charged like common murderers. On the contrary - how many Taliban commanders were charged by their fellow comrades for their war crimes? 5,000 Hazaras were massacred in august 1998 alone.

150000? Very funny maybe you take this numbers from bullshit US government run sites like Iraqi Body count which totally blacking out the real numbers?
Iraq and Afghanistan had over a million each on dead civilians, but i am sure when USA uses B-52 bombers which were designed for totalitarian war against Soviet Union they will only hit the bad talibans and other bombs will not explode unless it's an bad guy.

USA made airstrikes withing big cities like Bagdhad, they used Artillery, they massacred civilians with Chemical weapons and polluded the country with DU ammunition, sure all that doesn't counts since it is forbidden so it is not listed.

You still dream your bullshit illusion.

White phosphorous was used within big cities of course it has only killed soldiers and insurgents no civilians at all and radiation kills and harms only the insurgents not civilians.

Do you even use your brain or just fart all day long nonsense?

Do you know how did they come up with that number (1mln killed)?  They asked several families how many members have they lost and extrapolated the results on the entire country. A similar poll was done by one political party in Poland and the results were that 90% of people support it.

Do you know how they came up with numbers like Hiroshima of only few hundred thousands?
By not counting radiation, alpha burn effects and totally ignoring the genocide for several generations the real numbers goes into million, we know that both. Same goes for each war they just totally put a black cover above all radiations, chemical weapons since they are forbidden a record wouldn't be in their interest, surely bombing with B-52 bombers kills just a few, use of constant White Phosphorous doesn't kill anyone. Using asshole US snipers that drop a weapon on streets and wait untill someones pick it up to have "RoE" to kill that people, killing civilians and dropping AK's next to them that they are not counted as civilians but as insurgents surely the acts of a great moral country.
The number goes into a million per country, but how exactly can the US regime site "Iraqi Body Count" not having any deaths among civilians via White Phosphorous even that it was used in big scale over 10 years? How exactly almost all this civilians died by "accidental" fire and nothing else.
Very suspisious but yes repeat it like a mantra that Iraqi body count lies.

No military aid for bandits - money accounts locked also - best sign (besides 20 bin $ credit World Bank offer to Assad) - game iz up
Exclusive: Congress delaying U.S. aid to Syrian rebels - sources


70% of all Syrian people for support Assad, 20% dont care for either side and 10% support bandits (most likely not the extremist ones)
NATO reveals 70% of Syrians support Bashar al-Assad

Bandits wont last long in Homs - suicide vests are given to its members/crying all day they dont have anything - reports of Syrian Army gains
Battles intensify in Syria's strategic city of Homs

Cleansing operation around Damask in good progress - bandits surrounded
Syria army makes progress against Takfiris near Damascus

No international support for Arming bandits - 64% Americans against
Little international support for arming Syria rebels

- also there are reports (more and more) about clashes within bandits themselves - which will only make job easier for Syrian Army

- Egypt has opened consulate in Damascus and vice verse

New stuff from ANNA

Proper tactics? My god, they might actually win something without bad casualties!

If they have decent reco, attacks like this could achieve real success. Too many videos of vehicles being blasted from sides by ATGMs, I am surprised they are not running out of vehicles yet.

Noticed same thing before. SAA might come out as professional army when it's over

Syria naval base blast points to Israeli raid

How ironic that it's being said by a representative of the country which actively supports Hezbollah and caused a civil war in a neighbooring country 30-35 years ago...

ahmedfire wrote:
Syria naval base blast points to Israeli raid

Bandits changed their opinion at least 7 or 8 times and exploited all options about what happened as so did mass media

ahmedfire wrote:

Wise man.

Bandit defenses are falling apart in Homs. LINK

Bandits continue to clash

New York Times: Opposition in Syria Continues to Fracture

EU starting to be aware of bandit danger

Foreign Policy: Europe's New 'Time Bomb' Is Ticking in Syria.


Interesting how Bandits / AQ have nothing against Israel but only Assad and they would continue to fight along US in its attack on Iran

Syrian Islamist group: We have no beef with Israel

Interesting how Bandits / AQ have nothing against Israel but only Assad and they would continue to fight along US in its attack on Iran

Of course they wont openly bite the hand that feeds now... but if they ever managed to gain power then their real character will be revealed...

The US often says it has interest and not allies... the reality is that everyone has interests and they can rapidly change with the situation...