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    Post  sepheronx Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:56 am

    I know.

    The west says "we could transfer nukes to Ukraine" and then Ukraine saying "We will obtain nukes to fight russia" and then when Russia says "we would use our nukes if you use yours" instantly goes "see, Russia threatens us with nukes!" And retards like some I know actually believe that

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:11 am

    I just wonder if those findings are thehill own or just reprint form zionist NYT?
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:51 am

    They copy paste each other

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    Post  kvs Tue Oct 03, 2023 3:04 am

    The real problem is all the intellectually lazy and inadequate proles in the NATzO who are barely aware of reality and think
    this spew of BS is some sort of objective information.    This is really the fundamental problem with human civilization.   Hordes
    of "apathetic" people who get led around by the nose by moron "elites" and together head for oblivion.  

    All those that expect a great convergence or Star Trek utopia are terminally deluded.   Civilizations have a life cycle and the
    end stage is idiocracy which we are entering.  

    Not all parts of the planet are synchronized in this lifecycle progression.   Which brings us back to Russia and its ability to develop
    high technology such as the Burevestnik.   The NYT and other cloaca MSM outlets are just the methane bubbles coming off a
    sinking turd.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Oct 03, 2023 6:56 am

    Perhaps the Burevestnik test. It is a pity that the Russians completely concealed the works and progress as well as the solutions used in this exotic project.

    If they are testing it it is not ready for service yet.

    Why tell the west about new weapons that are not ready to be used yet?

    Telling them about it means they can start taking steps to deal with it... is that a good thing or a bad thing do you think?

    NYT: Russia is preparing to test a nuclear-powered missile,

    All speculation based on increased activity at a testing site...


    (1) So they know the range. Source as always unknown

    They have no idea.

    a small increase in activity that could indicate concern from Washington.

    Concern from Washington. Russia would never dare upsetting those pricks.

    The NYT and other cloaca MSM outlets are just the methane bubbles coming off a
    sinking turd.

    An optimist might point out that this is all about a slight increase in activity at a Russian test site... they have got no idea what is or is not happening... perhaps it is an opportunity for some in western intelligence to remind people that Russia has such programmes and that blind support for Kiev might get them all killed.

    There was even a comment by a Ukrainian official that the Russians are so powerful and the Ukrainians are so amazing that if they could work together they could dominate the whole world... all they would have to do is ignore how many Russians they have murdered and how many of their own kind they murdered for not being hard core anti Russian, and how far up the wests backside they have been that they stink of number twos...

    Those ships have sailed and sunk and there has been a movie about them already.

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    Post  Kiko Tue Oct 03, 2023 3:12 pm

    Kremlin Denies Reports About Russia's Alleged Missile Tests in Arctic, 10.03.2023.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov on Tuesday denied media reports alleging that Russia was planning to test a missile codenamed Burevestnik in the Arctic.

    "No, I cannot [confirm this]. I do not know where the New York Times journalists got that idea from ... Apparently, [they] need to take a closer look at the satellite images," Peskov said when asked to comment on the allegations.

    Peskov said that Russia remains committed to the international nuclear test ban regime, when asked to comment on remarks that the country should carry out a thermonuclear weapon test over Siberia to demonstrate its determination.

    “This has never occurred in the past, so I don't think that kind of discussion is possible now, from an official point of view,” the spokesman added.

    Earlier this week, US media reported that satellite imagery suggested Russia was preparing or might have already carried out tests of the experimental nuclear-powered cruise missile in the Arctic.

    https://sputnikglobe.com/20231003/kremlin-denies-reports-about-russias-alleged-missile-tests-in-arctic-1113885314.html

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    Post  Big_Gazza Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:27 am

    kvs wrote:The NYT and other cloaca MSM outlets are just the methane bubbles coming off a
    sinking turd.

    Not sure that cloaca is the appropriate term as the Western MSM uses the same orifice for eating, as well as excretion/urination and giving birth/laying eggs.  They just might be unique in this regard as AFAIK no other natural creature on this rock does the same.

    edit: maybe starfish and sea cucumbers, ie a spineless brainless bottom-feeding scavenger, about as close to Western MSM as Mother Nature has yet come.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:10 am

    “This has never occurred in the past, so I don't think that kind of discussion is possible now, from an official point of view,” the spokesman added.

    Perhaps he should have asked that if they did that would western politicians and media actually listen to such a thing or just make up the shit you are about to make up about this interview?

    So if Russia has to detonate nuclear weapons to be listened to then it confirms their position to sort this out on the battlefield in the Ukraine.
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    Post  TMA1 Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:33 am

    Was about to defend cloacas as if I secretly was a bird but thought better of it as you guys probably dont remember the spider meme. I'm getting old Razz

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    Post  Arrow Thu Oct 05, 2023 6:45 pm

    https://t.me/SolovievLive/213177

    The NYT was right Very Happy

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    Post  Kiko Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:27 pm

    Putin shares the news that Russia "successfully tested" its novel intercontinental missile Burevestnik, 10.05.2023.

    Russia has successfully conducted the latest test of the Burevestnik nuclear-powered intercontinental cruise missile, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced during the 20th plenary session.The first meeting of the Valdai International Debate Club, held in Sochi.

    "The latest test of the Burevestnik, a world-class cruise missile with a nuclear facility, a nuclear propulsion system, has been successfully carried out," the head of state said in his speech at the Valdai International Debate Club.

    The Russian president also said that "no person in his right mind and with a clear memory would think of using nuclear weapons against Russia." He also noted that the Sarmat strategic missile system will enter combat service in the near future.

    "In fact, we have finished the work on the Sarmat, the super-heavy missile. The point is that we have to finish some procedures purely administratively and bureaucratically," Putin stressed.

    In his speech to the Federal Assembly on March 1, 2018, the president announced the creation of new Russian weapons capable of ensuring strategic balance in the world for the coming decades, including the Burevestnik cruise missile.

    The Burevestnik is one of the most recent weapon systems. From the Ministry of Defense indicate that it is an intercontinental cruise missile of practically unlimited range, with a nuclear propulsion system and that it can carry a nuclear warhead. The Russian military noted that it is invulnerable to all existing and future systems of both missile defense and air defense.

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    Post  Arrow Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:15 pm

    Pseudo expert Podvig has already given his opinion  Laughing

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    Post  Hole Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:55 pm

    The utility of this weapons is her range in the tens of thousands of kilometers or her endurance that numbers days.

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    Post  lancelot Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:31 pm

    It is basically a Kh-101/2 with unlimited range. Imagine a Tu-95 carrying a salvo of these things.

    It could also lead to other novel kinds of weapons in case the propulsion is safe enough. Imagine an unlimited range bomber for example. You would basically give bombers the same endurance as nuclear submarines.

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    Post  Arrow Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:45 pm

    It could also lead to other novel kinds of weapons in case the propulsion is safe enough. Imagine an unlimited range bomber for example. You would basically give bombers the same endurance as nuclear submarines. wrote:

    There were already such plans. The Russians even tested such a nuclear-powered jet engine on the Tu-95. However, I think that drones with unlimited range with miniature nuclear reactors may be created.
    Fitting a miniature reactor on a missile the size of Kh 101 is simply amazing.

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    Post  kvs Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:57 pm

    The Latin word for sewer was "cloaca".   So I used it.   But most people only know it in the context of birds.   Will have to adjust my shit-posting
    vocabulary Very Happy

    Podvig is a liberast faggot who fits in with the woke-tard horde.

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    Post  thegopnik Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:06 pm

    This is a grand achievement; we get drunk tonight boys. sunny

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    Post  TMA1 Fri Oct 06, 2023 4:58 am

    kvs wrote:The Latin word for sewer was "cloaca".   So I used it.   But most people only know it in the context of birds.   Will have to adjust my shit-posting
    vocabulary Very Happy

    Podvig is a liberast faggot who fits in with the woke-tard horde.


    If I was a bird I would take offense to that. Cloacas are beautiful and FUNCTIONAL Embarassed
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    Post  Hole Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:36 pm

    Imagine a Tu-95 carrying a salvo of these things.
    Even better. You don´t need a Tu-95 because of the long range it can be launched from the ground anywhere in Russia.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Oct 06, 2023 1:40 pm


    you guys probably dont remember the spider meme. I'm getting old

    Hahahaha... a few Australians might disagree with that Spider.... some really dangerous spiders live in that shithole country Australia. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

    The NYT was right

    A clock whose hands are painted on is right twice a day...

    Pseudo expert Podvig has already given his opinion

    Cruise missiles are hard to deal with for any air defence, but after WWIII then your ability to stop low flying fast missiles will diminish radically to the point where you likely wont have a working air force or radars so you wont see anything that stays low and flys relatively fast... but more importantly they don't need to be based close to their targets... you can build a secret base of them thousands of kilometres from anywhere in the middle of Russia and just start launching them a week after WWIII is over and those missiles will fly to their targets and destroy their targets because nothing will be left to stop them... they could make thousands of them... they could keep making them... nuclear explosions in western countries could continue for decades... it is unlikely any satellites would still be working but they will know what targets they launched their ICBMs and SLBMs and their air launched cruise missiles at and they can start picking targets to hit other population centres and things of importance after that...

    It is basically a Kh-101/2 with unlimited range. Imagine a Tu-95 carrying a salvo of these things.

    Your average cruise missile flys at medium altitude to maximise range and flight speed... it can fly further and faster at 10km altitude than it can at sea level, but it is easier to detect on radar so it is a compromise... it will fly at 10km as far as it can but as it approaches enemy airspace and enemy radar it will drop down and throttle up and be a very difficult target because it is so low.

    With a nuke powered missile you fly very low all the way so you are always hard to spot with radar.

    It could also lead to other novel kinds of weapons in case the propulsion is safe enough. Imagine an unlimited range bomber for example. You would basically give bombers the same endurance as nuclear submarines.

    Even better... imagine the propulsion isn't safe... have it fly around enemy airspace for the next 10 years spewing out radiation...

    There was a US nuclear powered cruise missile from the 1950s that would fly at mach 3 at very low level... the shockwave from the missile flying that fast that low could damage buildings and kill people on the ground, but they cancelled it because it released radiation and was crazy.

    Now it seems it has to be crazy for the west to even care or notice and to get them to talk.

    The Russians even tested such a nuclear-powered jet engine on the Tu-95.

    The problem was the weight of the reactor and all the shielding to keep the crew safe meant the bomb capacity was about 2 tons and the aircraft was not fast enough to escape enemy fighters.

    Cloacas are beautiful and FUNCTIONAL

    Sewers are functional too... you certainly find out when they stop working properly.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Oct 06, 2023 2:06 pm

    GarryB wrote:Hahahaha... a few Australians might disagree with that Spider.... some really dangerous spiders live in that shithole country Australia.   Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil

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    Post  Hole Fri Oct 06, 2023 5:17 pm

    This indicates that despite Putin's statements, Burevestnik related activities will likely continue.
    Of course activities will continue. All sorts of weapons are tested all the time which doesn´t mean they are not in service. Rolling Eyes

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Oct 06, 2023 10:15 pm

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    The President of the Russian Federation announced yesterday that the Burevestnik rocket had been successfully tested. This is a nuclear-powered global-range cruise missile. A rocket like no other in the world. Russian scientists and constructors, who started working back in Soviet times, made another step forward.

    Name: 9M730 "Буревестник" (Burevestnik)
    Type: Winged cruise missile of global range
    Engine: Nuclear turbojet
    Range: Unlimited
    Speed: 850 – 1300 km/h
    Flight Altitude: 25 – 100 meters
    Warhead: Special (nuclear)

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    Post  Kiko Fri Oct 06, 2023 10:19 pm

    How Russian Stormbringer Nuclear Cruise Missile Can Help Bankrupt US War Machine, by Ilya Tsukanov for Sputnikglobe.com.10.06.2023.

    President Putin has confirmed the successful testing of the “Burevestnik” ("Stormbringer"), a Russian nuclear-powered, nuclear-capable cruise missile unlike anything that exists in any other nation’s arsenal. What do we know about the weapon? What impact will it have on the global strategic balance? Sputnik reached out to a top expert to find out.

    “The latest successful test of the Burevestnik, a global-range cruise missile with a nuclear propulsion system, has been carried out,” Russian President Vladimir Putin told attendees of the Valdai Discussion Club in Sochi on Thursday.

    "Today, we have almost wrapped up work on the modern types of strategic weapons which I announced and spoke about several years ago," Putin said, referring his March 2018 speech to lawmakers, during which the president unveiled the Burevestnik and other new strategic weapons designed to ensure global strategic stability amid US moves to surround Russia with missile defenses with offensive capabilities, and Pentagon planning aimed at neutralizing the Russian nuclear deterrent.

    Putin reiterated that under Russia’s existing nuclear doctrine, Moscow would only resort to using its strategic weaponry in response to enemy aggression, but stressed that Russia’s guaranteed response capabilities would mean “absolutely unacceptable” losses for any potential aggressor.

    What Prompted the Burevestnik's Development?

    Developed alongside other advanced strategic weapons, including the Poseidon nuclear-powered torpedo, the Avangard hypersonic boost-glide vehicle, the Sarmat intercontinental ballistic missile, the Kinzhal air-launched hypersonic quasi-ballistic missile, and the Peresvet laser complex, the Burevestnik is one component of Russia’s multilayered response to the George W. Bush administration’s decision in 2002 to walk out on the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty.

    Washington’s short-sighted decision prompted Russia to dust off blueprints and prototypes of advanced rocketry and aerospace systems and designs developed in strict secrecy throughout the second half of the 20th century until the end of the Cold War. In the case of the Burevestnik, this involved following in the footsteps of a path forged by the Voronezh-based Chemical Automatics Design Bureau to build a nuclear thermal rocket engine using a liquid hydrogen propellant.

    The concept of a nuclear-powered engine was born in the late 1940s, at the very dawning of the Soviet rocketry and nuclear programs, with legendary rocket scientist Vitaly Ievlev receiving support from Igor Kurchatov, father of the Soviet atomic bomb, and rocket scientists Sergey Korolev and Mstislav Keldysh, to carry out theoretical work to create such an engine. While work on the program initially focused exclusively on potential military applications, the state soon also realized the tremendous potential of the concept of a nuclear-powered engine being used by spacecraft to make long-distance journeys across the solar system, including to Mars.

    Ievlev and co’s work eventually led to the creation of the RD-0410 – the USSR’s first and only nuclear-powered rocket engine. Work on the project began in 1966 at the Keldysh Research Center, with multiple successful tests carried out in Voronezh between the mid-to-late 1970s, with a power generation capacity of up to 63 Megawatts achieved by the mid-1980s before work on the project was halted in 1988 by the Gorbachev administration. Ievlev died two years later in 1990.

    American rocket scientists made their own impressive advances in the field during the same period, with NASA and the Atomic Energy Commission jointly creating a design known as the Nuclear Engine for Rocket Vehicle Application (NERVA), with the experimental, liquid hydrogen-propelled engine built and certified, only to be cancelled by the Richard Nixon administration in 1973 as Washington wound down the US space program after the Moon landings.

    The Soviet nuclear-powered rocket engine, also powered by liquid hydrogen, with heptane serving as a backup power source, was designed to be able to generate up to 196 megawatts of energy using 37 separate fuel assemblies. However, neither the American nor Soviet designs would provide rockets or spacecraft with the ability to operate continuously over extended periods, with burn time measuring about 45 minutes and 24 restarts in the case of the NERVA, and 60 minutes and 10 restarts in the case of the RD-0410.

    What is the Burevestnik?

    The 9M730 Burevestnik cruise missile, NATO reporting name SSC-X-9 Skyfall, is different, with its onboard nuclear power plant designed to provide it with continuous power, operating within the Earth’s atmosphere, for days, weeks or even months at a time, giving the weapon what is for all intents and purposes an unlimited range.

    Development work on the Burevestnik began in December 2001, shortly after the US announced its intention to withdraw from the ABM Treaty. "Burevestnik," which means "stormbringer," "prophet of a storm," or "petrel" in Russian, was the name given to the prospective cruise missile in 2018, several weeks after its existence was revealed, in an online vote open to the public by the Russian Defence Ministry.

    While most of the Burevestnik’s characteristics, including its payload, remain under wraps, footage of the weapon released by the military have given experts a rough idea of some of its parameters, with its contours appearing roughly comparable to those of Kh-101 series of ultra-long range cruise missiles, although the Burevestnik appears to be up to two times larger. Additionally, the cruise missile’s wings are visibly situated hanging over the top of the fuselage, rather than below it, as in the case of the Kh-101.

    The Burevestnik reportedly features a solid propellant-fueled starting engine, with propulsion in flight provided by a nuclear air-breathing (ramjet) or a turbojet engine. The missile has a starting length at launch of about 12 meters, which shrinks to 9 meters in flight as the starting engine drops off.

    Details on the development and characteristics of the Burevestnik’s small nuclear power plants also remain shrouded in mystery. However, shortly after Putin’s March 2018 speech introducing the weapon, a source told Russian media that scientists had completed testing of a power plant that could be used in cruise missiles and autonomous oceangoing underwater vehicles, hinting that the Burevestnik and the Poseidon use modifications of the same power plant.

    The Burevestnik has undergone testing on the Russian northern archipelago of Novaya Zemlya, with field testing of its engine completed in January 2019. Additional testing has been reported by various sources as early as June 2016, with a dozen or more launches estimated to have been carried out to date, with the latest in August 2023.

    NATO Sounds the Alarm

    “What this will give Russia a capacity for is to take a low-wielding potentially nuclear weapon and then use it to have it travel a greater distance, tens of thousands of miles,” retired US Army Major Mike Lyons told US media Thursday, several hours after Putin’s Valdai speech.

    “This Burevestnik missile is normally a conventional cruise missile that’s used let’s say inter-theater. This provides a strategic view, though. Let’s say they have this in the Arctic, where they’re testing it right now. They could easily launch this missile from that platform and hit targets in the United States, not using ICBMs,” Lyons explained.

    In 2020, then-UK Chief of Defense Intelligence Lt. Gen. Jim Hockenhull warned that the Burevestnik has what is effectively a “global reach and would allow attack from unexpected directions,” giving Moscow a weapon with a “near infinite loiter time.” Combined with the capabilities of the Poseidon, this would “allow the Russians to hold the UK and its allies’ civilian and military infrastructure at risk of both direct attack both with conventional explosives and nuclear weapons, limiting options or raising the stakes during times of crisis,” Hockenhull said.

    Because the Burevestnik is a cruise missile, it should be able to mimic the capabilities of other cruise missiles to perform flights at altitudes as low as 50-100 meters, making it essentially invisible to enemy radar, and detectable only using satellites, and only during launch.

    Dmitry Kornev, founder of the MilitaryRussia.ru portal, has been following the development of the Burevestnik since its first appearance in 2018.

    The cruise missile’s main selling point as a universal retaliatory weapon stems from its virtually unlimited range, measuring in “days, weeks or months,” Kornev told Sputnik.

    “This means that such missiles can be launched and remain in flight over a holding area for up to several months, and can alter these holding areas at will. In this state, it would be extremely difficult to catch and destroy them. At the moment, there are no systems that could reliably detect these missiles in their holding areas and destroy them. And in the event of ‘X hour,’ if an order was received providing information about targets…these missiles could proceed to their targets and strike them,” the observer explained.

    The Burevestnik’s unparalleled range characteristics means the missile will be capable of simply maneuvering around air defense systems, traveling toward targets “from a completely unexpected direction,” and thus becoming an effective new component of Moscow’s strategic deterrent capability in light of recent US attempts to neutralize other elements of the Russian nuclear triad.

    Ultra-long range, combined with maneuverability, differentiates the Burevestnik from a traditional ballistic missile, which flies along a set trajectory, making it easier to intercept, Kornev said. Cruise missiles generally “can perform maneuvers, bend around terrain, go around buildings, structures, islands, continents. And in the case of the Burevestnik, there are no limitations on flight range,” meaning it can go around entire continents, oceans, and even circle the planet multiple times over on route to its destination.

    “This is a completely new component of our nuclear deterrent force,” the observer stressed, saying it will effectively help turn Russia’s nuclear triad of ground-based, air, and submarine launched missiles into a quartet.

    Powerful Trump Card for Arms Control

    Once development and testing of the Burevestnik is wrapped up, Moscow will have a choice, according to Kornev – either to introduce the system into service, or use it as a trump card in arms control negotiations with Washington. “This question is still open. That is, no one is saying that Burevestnik cruise missiles will be launched and used tomorrow. But on the basis of this development, a weapons system can be created in short order which no one in the world possesses.”

    “Systems providing guaranteed retaliation essentially put an end to the traditional strategic nuclear weapons systems arms race,” Kornev says. According to the observer, Russia’s possession of weapons like the Burevestink and the Poseidon could force the United States and other major nuclear powers to the negotiating table, and finally put an end to a situation – initiated by Washington over 20 years ago, in which there are now almost no agreements left to ensure effective arms control between the nuclear superpowers.

    “Of course, the United States will work to figure out how to counter the Burevestnik,” Kornev said. “We must understand that the financial and technological capabilities of the United States are such that if they want to, they will be able to catch up,” if they determine that the Russian nuclear-powered cruise missile program has succeeded.

    Could Burevestnik Help Bankrupt the Pentagon?

    As things stand, the observer emphasized that today, the Pentagon has nothing in its arsenal to counter the Burevestnik. “Obviously they will strengthen their air defenses. But that will not be a guarantee that these missiles will not reach their targets.”

    “It’s likely the United States will choose to create space-based means to detect such missiles. If one knows where such missiles are flying, it will be possible for any fighter jet to shoot them down…But then it would be necessary to create a detection system, to build a system for the transmission of information – to radically modernize the entire air defense system of North America, probably Europe and other countries threatened by such a weapons system. These are colossal costs in any case. And it may very well be the case that these costs significantly exceed the cost of creating Burevestnik-type missiles,” Kornev stressed.

    Issues to Be Ironed Out

    “Many questions remain” regarding nuclear-powered cruise missiles’ utility, according to the military expert. “Will Russia create a weapons system on the Burevestnik’s basis? Because the ability to launch a missile is one thing, but actually creating a weapons system, training personnel, producing these missiles, accepting them into service and operating them is another,” Kornev noted.

    There are a number of issues that will have to be ironed out, in Kornev’s view, starting with the fact that cruise missiles are not designed to land safely without being destroyed. “Even during testing, it’s possible that this rocket could fall and be destroyed. In any case, the materials onboard can lead to radioactive contamination,” he warned.

    Another issue lies in the fact that the Burevestnik is the first system of its kind anywhere in the world.

    “We have no experience, there is no experience anywhere in the world; we will be ‘on the front line’ here, so to speak, and it’s on the front line that problems often ‘arrive.’ So of course there are certain risks. But if we approach this question thoughtfully, carefully, and using all of our scientific potential, we will surely be able to create something unique,” the observer summed up.

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