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kvs
Svyatoslavich
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Communists - then and now
Cyberspec- Posts : 2907
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Svyatoslavich- Posts : 399
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Very good, and though I am no supporter of communism of any kind, it is also true.
kvs- Posts : 14110
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Join date : 2014-09-11
Location : Turdope's Kanada
The USSR did not need any US-style feminist movement since women were automatically treated as equal to men
and filled the full spectrum of jobs (from scientist to factory worker) in numbers reflecting the total percentage of
the population.
US feminism is about creating a specific ideology for women to compensate for discrimination and perceived discrimination.
It is a political contrivance that only pays lip service to "equality" and instead engages in demonization of males and
tries to undermine the system without any actual plan to improve it. Western feminism is part of the political correctness
totalitarian ideology that denies free speech and freedom of thought.
Soviet women achieved what western women claimed they wanted, i.e. equality. They did this without the spurious
political baggage resulting from an "us vs them" ideology and PC crap.
The modern US left is all about feelings and PC witch hunts. It is also about brazen historical revisionism. This left has
nothing in common with the true left. That is the left that fights for workers rights, real equality and free education.
The original left was clearly needed given the autocratic and aristocratic propensities of the capitalist elites, who would
prefer that their workers were paid next to nothing and worked 12 hour days. Unfortunately, these conditions have been
forgotten and the successes of the left assumed to have been in place since the dawn of time. The current generation
of nincompoops will undo a lot of progress.
and filled the full spectrum of jobs (from scientist to factory worker) in numbers reflecting the total percentage of
the population.
US feminism is about creating a specific ideology for women to compensate for discrimination and perceived discrimination.
It is a political contrivance that only pays lip service to "equality" and instead engages in demonization of males and
tries to undermine the system without any actual plan to improve it. Western feminism is part of the political correctness
totalitarian ideology that denies free speech and freedom of thought.
Soviet women achieved what western women claimed they wanted, i.e. equality. They did this without the spurious
political baggage resulting from an "us vs them" ideology and PC crap.
The modern US left is all about feelings and PC witch hunts. It is also about brazen historical revisionism. This left has
nothing in common with the true left. That is the left that fights for workers rights, real equality and free education.
The original left was clearly needed given the autocratic and aristocratic propensities of the capitalist elites, who would
prefer that their workers were paid next to nothing and worked 12 hour days. Unfortunately, these conditions have been
forgotten and the successes of the left assumed to have been in place since the dawn of time. The current generation
of nincompoops will undo a lot of progress.
kvs- Posts : 14110
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GarryB- Posts : 36392
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Hilarious... trying to equate communism with gay and lesbian rights supporters... talk about putting all your enemies together in a box so they are easier to hate...
The Germans did that in WWII... those commies were accused of being jews and gays and all sorts of deviants so it was easier to murder them at worst or have no sympathy at best...
What I really think is ironic is that the poster in the first post almost idolises the conservative nature of Soviet Communists while trying to piss all over the views of the current outsiders who don't march to the drum of the main stream media.
I wonder what would the effect be if the picture of the modern commie was replaced with a rather attractive woman...
Or is it really a depiction comparing Soviet commies with American ones... Soviet commies being normal, while American ones being unattractive deviants.
The real amusing thing is that the modern west is rather more supportive of gays than any commie ever was.... is this an attempt to push back the progress of the west to promote equal rights for every deviant minority... I am sure child molesters will be getting protections and rights soon... they can't help it if mother nature made them that way right?
The Germans did that in WWII... those commies were accused of being jews and gays and all sorts of deviants so it was easier to murder them at worst or have no sympathy at best...
What I really think is ironic is that the poster in the first post almost idolises the conservative nature of Soviet Communists while trying to piss all over the views of the current outsiders who don't march to the drum of the main stream media.
I wonder what would the effect be if the picture of the modern commie was replaced with a rather attractive woman...
Or is it really a depiction comparing Soviet commies with American ones... Soviet commies being normal, while American ones being unattractive deviants.
The real amusing thing is that the modern west is rather more supportive of gays than any commie ever was.... is this an attempt to push back the progress of the west to promote equal rights for every deviant minority... I am sure child molesters will be getting protections and rights soon... they can't help it if mother nature made them that way right?
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That's because the last real communist in my books was Che Guevara....all the ones since then have slowly but surely turned into basically a joke
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kvs wrote:The USSR did not need any US-style feminist movement since women were automatically treated as equal to men
and filled the full spectrum of jobs (from scientist to factory worker) in numbers reflecting the total percentage of
the population.
US feminism is about creating a specific ideology for women to compensate for discrimination and perceived discrimination.
It is a political contrivance that only pays lip service to "equality" and instead engages in demonization of males and
tries to undermine the system without any actual plan to improve it. Western feminism is part of the political correctness
totalitarian ideology that denies free speech and freedom of thought.
Soviet women achieved what western women claimed they wanted, i.e. equality. They did this without the spurious
political baggage resulting from an "us vs them" ideology and PC crap.
The modern US left is all about feelings and PC witch hunts. It is also about brazen historical revisionism. This left has
nothing in common with the true left. That is the left that fights for workers rights, real equality and free education.
The original left was clearly needed given the autocratic and aristocratic propensities of the capitalist elites, who would
prefer that their workers were paid next to nothing and worked 12 hour days. Unfortunately, these conditions have been
forgotten and the successes of the left assumed to have been in place since the dawn of time. The current generation
of nincompoops will undo a lot of progress.
Western society looks more and more dystopian for conservatives like me.
Just to be clear- no, Soviet women were not artificially made equal to men as west tries to do. Soviets were pragmatical and everything didn't try to shove women into places just to get diversity quatta. The fact is - women are not equal to men, by they have their advantages and disadvantages compared to men.
Gender roles were and still are traditional in Russia and post soviet sphere.
Also, homosexualism was shunned and criminalised, but they are type of people you have to keep them in check.
MechanizedOne- Posts : 17
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Join date : 2018-02-12
kvs wrote:
Western society looks more and more dystopian for conservatives like me.
Just to be clear- no, Soviet women were not artificially made equal to men as west tries to do. Soviets were pragmatical and everything didn't try to shove women into places just to get diversity quatta. The fact is - women are not equal to men, by they have their advantages and disadvantages compared to men.
Gender roles were and still are traditional in Russia and post soviet sphere.
Also, homosexualism was shunned and criminalised, but they are type of people you have to keep them in check.
The way its looking in the West right now being a straight white guy is gonna get you killed or just outright rejected from society within 20-50 years...
What I and I suppose a lot of others are wondering is why all this stuff is being pushed down our throats. Are the people in power actually these brainwashed idiots believing in and pushing all this garbage or is it part of some agenda to achieve something else? I can't make up my mind on the matter...
Regardless the West as it stands now is morally bankrupt, the nuclear family (i.e what many call the "fundamental unit of human society") is being hammered on all sides, and it seems to me a lot of the youth are more concerned about what bathroom they should be using and what "gender" they are than worrying about anything actually important.
Some of the youth are backlashing against all this stuff (myself included) but im not sure it will be enough to turn the tide (I hope I am wrong).
As if all of this "identity politics" crap wasn't enough those pushing a lot of it have made a "deal with the devil" as it were and support this mass islamic migration into Europe, probably in an attempt to further undermine their perceived enemies (the conservative white western guy).
Thankfully places like Russia still exist and are trying to preserve some semblance of proper Western (i.e European) culture...
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kvs- Posts : 14110
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Western elites are corrupt and depraved. I guess this normal for all elites since they have way too much power and time
on their hands. But at the same time, they are showing bizarre fetishes for Sodom and Gomorrah type degeneracy.
I smell occupation regime type insecurity in western elites. They are not indigenous, but must be composed of external
elements who are always paranoid about the indigenous populations revolting against them. So their agenda is to
destroy both the genetics and the culture of the states they occupy.
on their hands. But at the same time, they are showing bizarre fetishes for Sodom and Gomorrah type degeneracy.
I smell occupation regime type insecurity in western elites. They are not indigenous, but must be composed of external
elements who are always paranoid about the indigenous populations revolting against them. So their agenda is to
destroy both the genetics and the culture of the states they occupy.
Walther von Oldenburg- Posts : 1429
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the nuclear family (i.e what many call the "fundamental unit of human society") is being hammered on all sides, and it seems to me a lot of the youth are more concerned about what bathroom they should be using and what "gender" they are than worrying about anything actually important.
What exactly is wrong with nuclear family? This is the social model that forms naturally as the society moves from subsistence agriculture into industrial and postindustrial stage.
MechanizedOne- Posts : 17
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Walther von Oldenburg wrote:the nuclear family (i.e what many call the "fundamental unit of human society") is being hammered on all sides, and it seems to me a lot of the youth are more concerned about what bathroom they should be using and what "gender" they are than worrying about anything actually important.
What exactly is wrong with nuclear family? This is the social model that forms naturally as the society moves from subsistence agriculture into industrial and postindustrial stage.
Hi Walther, I think you misunderstood what I meant. I agree with you about the nuclear family. What I meant was that the way that things are in the west the nuclear family is basically being dismantled. The second part of my statement refers to all of this "transgender" and "gender fluidity" crap that seems to be taking root in the West.