Directed-Energy Weapons | EM, Laser, Sonic, Microwave, Particle-beam etc |

Very informative interview with Chief deputy Director at КРЭТ , Владимир Михеев.


Topic touched :


- Radio-photonic sensor and EW suit for next generation aircraft and the revolutionary capabilities it will provide

- Microwave weapons for next generation unmanned vehicles

- Laser system for active protection against enemy missiles

- Defensive systems against enemy direct energy weapons

- Main features of perspective UCAV (hypersonic speed, hypermaneuvrability, capability to travel in near space)

- Organization of future air squad with a mix of 20-30 UCAV for each manned aircraft



http://tass.ru/opinions/interviews/4441543

George1 wrote:Ι think it belongs here

Ευχαριστώ but the question still remains what king of weapon is this...

I like Rosatom way - new cyber warfare now new weaponry. Wow

AFAIK Zadira means "trouble maker". So who knows but whatever it is it'll make trouble for sure xD I hope the trouble is for enemy only, not for themselves.

George1 wrote:
Ι searched in google for "Zadira-16" but i found nothing

But I did, a little


http://3mv.ru/94712-zadira-16-rosatom-sozdast-boevoy-kompleks-na-novyh-fizicheskih-principah.html

George1 wrote:Ι searched in google for "Zadira-16" but i found nothing dunno

T-47 wrote:But I did, a little

Actually I have given a link to 2 large scale  projects TERRA-3 and  OMEGA (in directoed energy russiadefence section . The technologies used there are pretty similar to the present VNIIEF complex.

Actually i can just relate .. they were storing planet busting(gargantuan amounts of energy ) in magnetic generators.. they were not storing they were accumulate and release ..

Technically in(books) it is called induction coil energy storage .. what is  that a  magnetic field is generated  when current goes through the coil..

Google has just become useless in front of hyper tech coming from Russia..
In this techniques
bursts of Incoherent (out of phase in amp and freq etc etc) ,  huge amounts of magnetic and (EM )energy is released.. in radio (so called Elecro magnetic waves ) .. I mean EM radiation ..
This is different from vibgyor(optic spectrum)
There was a separate field of study for magnetic generators in russia. Magnetic generator technology was also given to the United States.

In teh above link they are saying some 3 Mega Joule per cubic centimeter whethevr.. etc etetc.

But now we come to teh VNIIEF institute this also is kind of institute which specializes in magnetic energy storage  and bursts.. well let us see in few years time what they will come up ..

Russian are try to standardize systems and architectures for future weapons .. but they are not clearly defining what products they intend and for what purpose..

GunshipDemocracy wrote:Rosatom will develop weapons on new physical principles

State corporation Rosatom has begun developing a combat complex Zadira-16, operating on new physical principles, RIA Novosti reported. The contract was signed at the Military-2017 forum by Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov and director of the Rosatom enterprise of the Russian Federal Nuclear Center - All-Russian Research

https://news.sputnik.ru/obschestvo/cb07eb6a72d50b39c246abe6fc8a7c8cb46fb056


Lasers or any other beam weapon? or  rail guns? or something else? any educated guess?



Ps advise where to put it? if current post is not in a proper place.

From the article:

«Одним из приоритетных направлений деятельности РФЯЦ-ВНИИЭФ являются электрофизические исследования, направленные на создание сверхсильных импульсных магнитных полей и сверхмощных импульсных источников энергии на основе взрывомагнитных генераторов», – так главный редактор журнала «Арсенал Отечества» Виктор Мураховский прокомментировал заказ Минобороны на разработку перспективного комплекса.

Скорее всего, в основу нового оружия лягут взрывомагнитные генераторы, которые позволяют формировать мощные потоки электромагнитных излучений. На данный момент сотрудники РФЯЦ-ВНИИЭФ создали единственное в мире устройство, способное формировать плотности магнитной энергии на уровне 3 МДж/куб.см, что в 400 раз превышает плотность химической энергии взрывчатого вещества. Представители военного ведомства не сообщили, о каком именно оружии идет речь, однако, судя по всему, этот комплекс будет обладать невероятной мощью.

Gotta say dude.. it sounds like a railgun

EM weapons

Will the hypersonic missiles be necessary when EM weapons are available .. EM weapons can turn all missiles/underground silos into duds..

Sputniknews wrote:
An armored vehicle equipped with a UHF emitter moves in front of a mobile missile system. It detects radio-controlled landmines
planted along and away from the road using ground-penetrating radar and then uses ultra-high-frequency rays to neutralize them.

This is a novel technique, which had never been used before.

During a drill on Wednesday, some 20 real cellphone-controlled explosive devices were planted along the route of a
column of Yars mobile ballistic missile systems. A single Listva vehicle spotted all of them and blew them up long before
the missiles reached the area.
In the next two years Russia’s Strategic Missile Forces will receive over 150 Listva robotic mine clearing vehicles.

Difference between Electronic jammer and EM weapon .??
Moreover, unlike already exiting electronic jammers, they can completely take out or seriously damage
even off-line weapons like tanks, grounded planes and missiles in silos.

Earlier, media reports said that Russia’s defense industry had come up with the Alabuga, a new electro-magnetic missile,
which uses a powerful UHF emitter to disable all enemy electronics within a radius of 3.5 kilometers (2.3 miles),
turning it into “a heap of scrap metal.”

A directed beam of waves of a particular frequency has a sledgehammer effect on electronic equipment
knocking out computers and navigation systems by physically destroying their motherboards.
Russia plans to install such weapons on its sixth-generation fighter drones because powerful UHF radiation can kill pilots.

Radio-electronic weapons are able to jam a tank’s loading mechanism, blow up artillery shells inside a turret
and destroy enemy soldiers hiding inside a bunker or taking cover up to 100 meters underground.

flamming_python wrote:

From the article:

«Одним из приоритетных направлений деятельности РФЯЦ-ВНИИЭФ являются электрофизические исследования, направленные на создание сверхсильных импульсных магнитных полей и сверхмощных импульсных источников энергии на основе взрывомагнитных генераторов», – так главный редактор журнала «Арсенал Отечества» Виктор Мураховский прокомментировал заказ Минобороны на разработку перспективного комплекса.

Скорее всего, в основу нового оружия лягут взрывомагнитные генераторы, которые позволяют формировать мощные потоки электромагнитных излучений. На данный момент сотрудники РФЯЦ-ВНИИЭФ создали единственное в мире устройство, способное формировать плотности магнитной энергии на уровне 3 МДж/куб.см, что в 400 раз превышает плотность химической энергии взрывчатого вещества. Представители военного ведомства не сообщили, о каком именно оружии идет речь, однако, судя по всему, этот комплекс будет обладать невероятной мощью.

Gotta say dude.. it sounds like a railgun

Indeed most liely but... but magnetic flux explosive generators can be used also in
EMP and energy sources for laser weapons...

In every case if Rosatom masters technology the whole new world of new weaponry is open for Russians

Flushing the Copenhagen consensus on quantum mechanics down the toilet where it belongs is a good start on new physics discovery. If QM based propulsion
exists (now pretty much an established fact) then all sorts of fun things can be brought into existence.

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/10/pilot-wave-theory-suggests-trumpet-shaped-emdrive-would-have-more-thrust.html

https://rg.ru/2018/02/25/reg-cfo/rf-sozdast-protivosputnikovyj-samolet-s-lazerom.html


Russia will create an anti-satellite aircraft with a laser

the technologies developed during the creation of the Soviet "flying laser" A-60 are actively used to create a fundamentally new aircraft equipped with laser weapons, Interfax reported , citing an informed source.

- The development of this complex took place, at the current stage of work completed. They will allow to make a step forward in the creation of such aircraft, "the source said. He added that the bearer of a combat laser, intended, in particular, for suppressing reconnaissance satellites, is likely to be a fundamentally new aircraft.

In 1981, on the basis of the military transport aircraft Il-76, a flying laboratory A-60 was developed to develop the technology of a "flying laser". Outwardly, the aircraft was distinguished by an elongated nose end - it had an aiming system - and two fairings along the sides of the fuselage. Under them hid powerful turbogenerators, feeding a battle laser. The radiator itself was placed in a retractable turret under the flaps of the upper fuselage.

At the beginning of the XXI century, work on the A-60 was suspended, as laser technology did not keep up with aviation. In 2009, an experiment was conducted: the laser beam emitted from the A-60 beam recorded a high-speed spacecraft at a distance of 1500 kilometers. In 2016, Russian Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov announced the completion of ground tests of a deeply modernized A-60 laser and the continuation of the flight tests of the system. In the report, PJSC "Scientific-Production Association" Almaz "named after Academician AA Rasppletin" for 2017 among other things "Development and research of a prototype of an aviation-based laser complex for counteraction in the infrared spectrum to reconnaissance means on land, sea, in the air and in space. "

NPO Almaz is a backbone enterprise of the military-industrial complex of Russia, a developer of anti-aircraft missile systems and air defense systems. In the development of the "flying laser" involved Voronezh KB chimavtomatiki and Taganrog air complex named after Beriev.

and now the question - fundamentally means here laser or that will not be based on Il-476?

GunshipDemocracy wrote:https://rg.ru/2018/02/25/reg-cfo/rf-sozdast-protivosputnikovyj-samolet-s-lazerom.html


Russia will create an anti-satellite aircraft with a laser

the technologies developed during the creation of the Soviet "flying laser" A-60 are actively used to create a fundamentally new aircraft equipped with laser weapons, Interfax reported , citing an informed source.

- The development of this complex took place, at the current stage of work completed. They will allow to make a step forward in the creation of such aircraft, "the source said. He added that the bearer of a combat laser, intended, in particular, for suppressing reconnaissance satellites, is likely to be a fundamentally new aircraft.

In 1981, on the basis of the military transport aircraft Il-76, a flying laboratory A-60 was developed to develop the technology of a "flying laser". Outwardly, the aircraft was distinguished by an elongated nose end - it had an aiming system - and two fairings along the sides of the fuselage. Under them hid powerful turbogenerators, feeding a battle laser. The radiator itself was placed in a retractable turret under the flaps of the upper fuselage.

At the beginning of the XXI century, work on the A-60 was suspended, as laser technology did not keep up with aviation. In 2009, an experiment was conducted: the laser beam emitted from the A-60 beam recorded a high-speed spacecraft at a distance of 1500 kilometers. In 2016, Russian Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov announced the completion of ground tests of a deeply modernized A-60 laser and the continuation of the flight tests of the system. In the report, PJSC "Scientific-Production Association" Almaz "named after Academician AA Rasppletin" for 2017 among other things "Development and research of a prototype of an aviation-based laser complex for counteraction in the infrared spectrum to reconnaissance means on land, sea, in the air and in space. "

NPO Almaz is a backbone enterprise of the military-industrial complex of Russia, a developer of anti-aircraft missile systems and air defense systems. In the development of the "flying laser" involved Voronezh KB chimavtomatiki and Taganrog air complex named after Beriev.

and now the question - fundamentally means here laser or that will not be based on Il-476?

No, no, no, no.

This is not system that will counter satelites, it has no such power, and its land based. This is to deal with UAVs, light PGMs...stuff like that. So those are two completely separated projects.

A-60 to my knowledge lost its funding some years ago, if it got any work done on it, it started recently or will in future.

When its about the aircraft, it has to be based on something existing, whats the point of wasting hundreds of million USD to make aircraft to carry a laser lol. Bad translation probably.

Militarov wrote:

No, no, no, no.

This is not system that will counter satelites, it has no such power, and its land based. This is to deal with UAVs, light PGMs...stuff like that. So those are two completely separated projects.

A-60 to my knowledge lost its funding some years ago, if it got any work done on it, it started recently or will in future.

When its about the aircraft, it has to be based on something existing, whats the point of wasting hundreds of million USD to make aircraft to carry a laser lol. Bad translation probably.

Nope translation is good enough I've read it in original and it say the same In Interfax there is one more important sentence though- Il-96 is to have production restarted.


http://www.interfax.ru/russia/601331

The source learned about the prospects of creating in Russia a new aircraft with laser weapons

Moscow. 25 February. INTERFAX.RU - Russia will actively use the developments gained in the creation of the aircraft with laser weapons A-60, an informed source told Interfax.

"The development of this complex took place, all the work done will allow to make a step forward in the creation of such aircraft," the source said.

According to him, the future of the complex will be determined by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. "Most likely, later a fundamentally new similar aircraft will be created, but not on the basis of the IL-76MD," the source said.

"At the current stage of work completed," - he said.

In 2016 it became known that in Russia they plan to create a laser complex that will suppress reconnaissance means even in space.

In the USSR, the experimental flying laboratory A-60 was developed, which was the carrier of laser weapons. According to open sources, the program was subsequently closed. In 2012, the newspaper "Izvestia" reported that the work on the flying laboratory will be resumed.

The development of this complex took place, all the work done will allow to make a step forward in the creation of such aircraft," the source said.

According to him, the future of the complex will be determined by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. "Most likely, later a fundamentally new similar aircraft will be created, but not on the basis of the IL-76MD," the source said.

"At the current stage of work completed," - he said.

The cruising altitude of IL 476  and the maximum altitude of IL 476  aircraft is the issue here. MoD has not publicised what is the issue here.
They could have said that upgraded , modernized , new package whatever .Mod did not say anything of this sort.
t directly told a "new" aircraft with similar payload.

Russia went ahead with the ground based deployment fro anti missile /anti sat application.

I think they have a whole regiment /divisions of this laser in ground based deployment. The video did not show any factory , design tests .
This video was real time Army units using the laser.

The laser is deadly .. against satellites .. it was used 2 times in 2014 though not confirmed.
I think it is dual cannon .. or 2 beams maybe more  for maximum destructive effect on the target.

and it looks a gas laser .

gaurav wrote:

The development of this complex took place, all the work done will allow to make a step forward in the creation of such aircraft," the source said.

According to him, the future of the complex will be determined by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. "Most likely, later a fundamentally new similar aircraft will be created, but not on the basis of the IL-76MD," the source said.

"At the current stage of work completed," - he said.

The cruising altitude of IL 476  and the maximum altitude of IL 476  aircraft is the issue here. MoD has not publicised what is the issue here.
They could have said that upgraded , modernized , new package whatever .Mod did not say anything of this sort.
t directly told a "new" aircraft with similar payload.

Russia went ahead with the ground based deployment fro anti missile /anti sat application.

I think they have a whole regiment /divisions of this laser in ground based deployment. The video did not show any factory , design tests .
This video was real time Army units using the laser.

The laser is deadly .. against satellites .. it was used 2 times in 2014 though not confirmed.
I think it is dual cannon .. or 2 beams maybe more  for maximum destructive effect on the target.

and it looks a gas laser .

Its still not in service its on state testing.

And its not powerful enough to be used aganist satelites, there is a reason why ASAT variant is supposed to be based on aircraft.

gaurav wrote:
The cruising altitude of IL 476  and the maximum altitude of IL 476  aircraft is the issue here. MoD has not publicised what is the issue here.
They could have said that upgraded , modernized , new package whatever .Mod did not say anything of this sort.
t directly told a "new" aircraft with similar payload..

Il 96 -
Service ceiling 13,100 m
Cruise Altitude 9,000 to 12,000 m
Range with max. payload 12,800 km (6,907 nmi v - 58 tones) 5,000 km (2,699 nmi (92 tones)



Il 76
Range: 5,000 km (2,700 nmi) for (Il-76MD-90A/TD-90VD) with 52 tonne payload; 4,000 km (Il-76M/T); 4,400 km (Il-76MD/TD), 4,200 km (Il-76MF/TF)
Service ceiling: 13,000 m (42,700 ft)


I'd say its about range and/or payload.

And its not powerful enough to be used aganist satelites,

Define powerful enough...

For use against a recon satellite with optical sensors and mirrors you don't need the laser to be powerful enough to blow it into tiny pieces... simply blinding it temporarily (ie dazzle it) or damage beyond repair the optical components would be sufficient...

GunshipDemocracy wrote:I'd say its about range and/or payload.

Yaah that could be a possiblity .. no doubt about that.


I think it is a fully deployed laser. See those latest (not sure) latest vehicles.. kamaz trucks .. and Ural trucks  .fitted with compact machinery.
For the west to develop similar machines it would take decades.

U.S satellite blown and CNN propaganda

NOAA satellite breaks up in orbit

A US Air Force weather satellite exploded in Earth orbit on February 3, scattering debris along its path. In a report by Space.com, Air Force and space officials indicated the breakup of Defense Meteorological Satellite Program Flight 13 (DMSP-F13) was due to a malfunction of its battery system rather than a collision with a foreign body. Meanwhile, The European Space Agency (ESA) has released an assessment of the hazard posed by the debris.

A 20-year-old military weather satellite apparently exploded in orbit Feb. 3 following what the U.S. Air Force described as a sudden temperature spike.
Air Force Space Command said DMSP-F13’s power subsystem experienced “a sudden spike in temperature” followed by “an unrecoverable loss of attitude control.” As DMSP operators were deciding to “render the vehicle safe” the Joint Space Operations Center at Vandenberg Air Force Base, California, identified a debris field near the satellite.
The “catastrophic event” produced 43 pieces of space debris, according to Air Force Space Command, which disclosed the loss of the satellite Feb. 27 in response to questions from SpaceNews.
The Air Force said it is continuing to track the debris and will issue conjunction warnings if necessary.

Sputniknews Russian laser

During his address to the Federal Assembly, President Vladimir Putin shocked observers when he said
that Russia's progress in laser weaponry was "not just a concept or a plan,"
and that the army was already being equipped with combat lasers.

"I do not want to reveal more details. It is not the time yet.
But experts will understand that with such weaponry,
Russia's defense capacity has multiplied," Putin added.

Crimean lawmaker Natalya Poklonskaya proposed calling the laser system 'Crimea', and
the drone platform Sevastopol, "in honor of the historical reunification of Russian lands" in 2014.

Well she is not wrong because of crimea crisis 2 major U.S satellites
were blown up by this same laser , after that Deep state took over .. with fake news

Putin did the right thing to put this information out. The retards running NATO really believe that Russia has no
technological and scientific capacity and potential. These f*ckwads don't even have physics degrees and think
they know all there is about physics. In NATO we have conclusive evidence that only scum rises to the top and
the talent of the scum is to be scum and nothing else.

This laser system probably has the ability to shut down all aircraft activity within some radius without using SAMs.
That is not a trivial achievement. SAMs take time to reach their target and can be messed around with via EM
tricks. A high power laser beam cannot be defeated even if hypothetically a mirror surface is used. There is
always some absorption just due to QM effects. And there is no way that stealth F-22s and F-35s ware going
to drop their RAM coatings for mirror finishes.

High power lasers can also take down air to surface missiles of any speed. So Russia is developing technology that
defeats its own innovations such as Kinzhal. This is smart. Yankees and their corrupt procurement process are
going to have a hard time catching up.

kvs wrote:Putin did the right thing to put this information out.   The retards running NATO really believe that Russia has no
technological and scientific capacity and potential.    These f*ckwads don't even have physics degrees and think
they know all there is about physics.    In NATO we have conclusive evidence that only scum rises to the top and
the talent of the scum is to be scum and nothing else.  

This laser system probably has the ability to shut down all aircraft activity within some radius without using SAMs.
That is not a trivial achievement.   SAMs take time to reach their target and can be messed around with via EM
tricks.   A high power laser beam cannot be defeated even if hypothetically a mirror surface is used.   There is
always some absorption just due to QM effects.    And there is no way that stealth F-22s and F-35s ware going
to drop their RAM coatings for mirror finishes.  

High power lasers can also take down air to surface missiles of any speed.   So Russia is developing technology that
defeats its own innovations such as Kinzhal.    This is smart.    Yankees and their corrupt procurement process are
going to have a hard time catching up.    

As cool as Lasers are.. because of the pretty star wars movie like light..
They have limitations ,get interference from clouds ,water and dust and bad weather..
This is why to intercept Ballistic missiles ,American had to mount their lasers in a 747 plane.. to fly very high and
by pass the weather and clouds interference ..This means that for long range targets is neccessary a plane.. and by the way the American airborn laser project failed.

And while the Americans haven’t been very successful here, Russia’s aircraft-mounted laser has proved
its ability to successfully fulfil the set tasks,” he added.

https://sputniknews.com/russia/201608071044027427-russia-laser-weapons/

But i think that the much more more advanced weapons Russia military is working ,that looks like taken from
a science fiction movie are not their lasers weapons , but instead their indirect physical impact radio electronic weapons .. Because radio waves ,can bypass easily not only air but also solid rock ,bad weather and water too..
WIth a powerful radio wave ,using very obscure science ,that soviets were experimenting first than anyone.. according Sputnik.. it can be used to shutdown satellites ,planes ,drones and warships.. anything and it have been confirmed by the company ,that produce them.. working on it.   It can active bombs or it can fry electronics.. and the most interesting thing about this weapons is that can be used to SEE in 3d everything.. for example spy inside a plane ,of how many people are inside and even see people faces.. even if they behind a wall.. With such weapons ,you will have a field day with NATO swarm of drones and completely neutralize hundreds if not thousands of them ,without firing a single missile or bullet. and apparently neither you need a nuclear reactor ,so much energy like lasers to make it work.

Such weapon if released , will make look lazers like yesterday science.. Because a radio electric weapon ,can be used
with equal effectivements to destroy electronics in air ,ground or see ,or even kill humans inside a plane ,without firing a missile. and even people inside a tank can be killed with such weapons without destroying the tank.

https://sputniknews.com/military/201610131046285777-russia-energy-weapons/

Such weapons will completely revolutionize modern warfare to a whole new level..
Tanks ,planes ,satellites could be aimed equally by the same gun and the range will surpass anything..
Terrorist that hide for example inside a house or behind a heavy rock ,could be killed without firing a shot.. just by radiating with lethal radio waves them.. Mines fields could be cleared fast by aiming the radio beam..
there are endless possibilities..

http://interfax.com/newsinf.asp?pg=7&id=815802

Russian combat lasers can destroy hostile targets - Defense Ministry
MOSCOW. March 12 (Interfax-AVN) - Combat laser weapons capable of disarming enemy capabilities and destroying
hostile targets were supplied to the Russian army last year, Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov told the ministry's newspaper Krasnaya Zvezda in an interview.

"Our nuclear scientists have learned how to concentrate energy required for destroying relevant enemy weapons instantly, in a split second," Borisov said.

"Laser weapons capable of disarming capabilities of the potential enemy and destroying every target of the laser beam were commissioned last year," he said.

"I think the dynamics of achievements, especially in the field of weapons based on new physical principles, has gained pace," Borisov said.

As I look through this thread I see some confused posts... can I point out that some of you are talking about airborne laser systems, while others are talking about the truck based system revealed by Putin recently.

Each has different roles and therefore are not really comparable.

As pointed out the ground based system is likely designed to defend ground targets so it makes sense for it to be ground based... it will likely operate with other air defence systems including short and long range missiles and perhaps even guns...

The air based system is intended for defeating strategic recon assets... not that includes satellites, but unlike the US airborne laser which was supposed to blow away ICBMs during their initial launch stage, this is a Russian system more likely being used to damage sensors and equipment on US satellites and also likely spy planes and UAV drones. It does not need to shoot anything down... a spy with destroyed optics and damaged electronics is much less of a threat, without filling earth orbit with debris.

And yes, they already have lasers powerful enough, and for those suggesting clouds might be an issue... they would certainly defeat a visible light laser, but an xray laser or gamma ray laser would pass right through...