We can't consider it as an advantage but they said no need to develop missiles like Russian ones, it's because they have other strong points to control the situation ,as I mentioned before the US navy airforce and submarines "as they said" have strong hands to face Russian submarines that threaten US carriers,
Really?
Because I see a whole new generation of Russian Subs on the verge of entering service and AFAIK the west was having serious trouble with the last generation.
A data link between ASW helos and carriers and F-18 or F-35 could make that F-18 to go farther from the carrier and shot some anti-submarine--anti ships missiles to counter the threat against their carriers , ofcourse the Russian defences are pretty good but we are talking in a theoretical scenario so the others have right to bet on their power .
What?
F-18 and F-35 will not be hunting submarines... they will have other roles and duties. The helicopters will be searching for subs cubic metres of the ocean at a time... the distance they can detect modern subs is shrinking all the time.
Against a third world country they might have lots of satellite coverage and unlimited use of datalinks, but when operational they will be restricting their comms emmissions to prevent the enemy from detecting them... so datalinks OFF.
If Oscar like submarine tries to use stand off missile like Granit then it will too face formidable barrage of SM2,Aster or similar missile with Electronic Jamming and Soft countermeasures ( Soft/Hard Kill ) .......so all Oscar can do is to fire their missile using long stand off range of Granit and hope it manages to penetrate AD assets and hit the target ....call it Spray and Pray.
Spray and pray? Granit does not lose accuracy or potency by being launched from maximum range. One Oscar will not fire on a battlegroup alone... it will be a coordinated attack using multiple vessels and platforms including aircraft, ships, subs... perhaps even civilian cargo container ships...
The advantage always lays with the attacker... wait till the carriers get near land which will effect their radar performance/coverage, wait till neutral ships are nearby... lots of options... hell the single Oscar could wait till a sea state 6 storm and then launch its missiles... does Aster and ESSM etc work in a storm?
1 ) Since the late 90's the advent of C4ISR and Revolution in Information Warfare in the USN has made it possible to have real time information from all asset integrated into one ...... the quantum leap in communication has helped integration of on board and off board submarine from all asset Ships, Air and Submarine into one single picture , this makes USN very capable in detecting missile as soon as it gets launched .......giving it a very big window to intercept with all asset it has.
That is what Sigma-2 does for the Russian Navy, so with enemy missiles travelling at subsonic speed it is even safer...
2 ) Regarding Oscar its very valid , so USN wont wait for Oscar to launch its missile but would pro-actively go and hunt for it and destroy as much of those asset as possible ....so goes with Russian SSBN.
When there are no other threats it will deploy its ASW helos which are slow and cannot cover enormous areas of sea quickly... the first enemy aircraft spotted and those ASW aircraft will be withdrawn because they are terribly vulnerable to R-77s and R-73s... and then the attack subs and cruise missile subs can move in...
How much time would it take for an oscar to salvo all its missiles?
About 30 seconds.
Just a question , how much is Tartus port important to Russian Navy ....should they loose it if rebels take over Damasucs at some point in time how badly will it be affected without Tartus ?
A very small maintainence base with mostly civilian manning.
Russia needs to invest in aircrafts like the P 8 Poseidon in order to carry out long range anti submarine operations.
Yeah... if only the Russians had a plane like P-8 with long range and the ability to detect enemy submarines... Perhaps you might have heard of the Tu-142 at some stage? In comparison to the flight RANGE of 2,222km of the P-8, the Tu-142M has a flight RADIUS of 6,500km... a range of 13,000km... even the old Il-38 May can fly 9,000km and outranges the 737 based P-8 by more than 3 times....