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    Post  George1 Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:04 am

    New North Korean tank

    A brand new tank was shown at the Korean Workers' Party 75th Anniversary Night Parade [October 10, 2020]. The architecture of the sample looks very progressive and parts of the chassis are outwardly similar to the solutions used on the promising Russian T-14 Armata tank.

    The tower also externally has borrowed solutions, such as the installation of an external light casing to reduce the radar visibility, here you can see solutions similar to both the "Armata" and "Abrams".

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    Post  Hole Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:00 pm

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    According to some sources it is based on the T-72.

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    Post  Hole Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:01 pm

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    Post  Hole Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:03 pm

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    More air defence?

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:27 pm

    Hole wrote:North Korea Armes Forces: News - Page 8 Tank_k10
    According to some sources it is based on the T-72.

    Abrams and Armata got really drunk one time and spent a crazy night together without protection love

    When the baby was born they gave it up to be adopted by suspicious looking Korean couple lol1


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    Post  lyle6 Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:39 pm

    And here I thought the entire country is made up of Kim cultists. Turns out there are those of the cult of the cargo as well.
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    Post  George1 Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:31 am

    A military parade in honor of the end of the VIII Congress of the Workers' Party of Korea was held on the evening of January 14, 2021 in Pyongyang with the participation of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un. This was reported by the Central Telegraph Agency of Korea (CTAC).

    The parade demonstrated for the first time the Pukkykson-5 ballistic missile for submarines - an upgraded version of the Pukkykson-4A missiles, which the North Korean news agency TsTAK calls "the most powerful weapon in the world."



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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:02 am

    George1 wrote:...The parade demonstrated for the first time the Pukkykson-5 ballistic missile for submarines - an upgraded version of the Pukkykson-4A missiles, which the North Korean news agency TsTAK calls "the most powerful weapon in the world."
    ...

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    Post  d_taddei2 Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:02 pm

    North Korea have produced a copy of the Chinese QJG 02 14.5mm HMG with a bit of upgrade lol although China did make a prototype making it into a three barrelled Gatling gun, the North Koreans went a step further and made a 14.5mm 6 barrelled Gatling gun it's a beast. And they have also sold it to Myanmar who mount it on ships. Four pics and a gif

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    NK 14.5mm 6 barrelled Gatling gun
    (Gif of it firing)

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    Post  George1 Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:47 am

    Parade of the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Militia and Security Forces in Pyongyang

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    Post  Dima Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:28 am

    Ballistic missile launch from train. Hope they had access to the Pr.636 with a module for 8-cell VLS.



    South Koreans launched their Iskander lookalike ballistic missile from DE submarine.
    If people do remember, back in the first half of 2000 when Iskander was getting trailed for the Russian forces, there was a Russian article about how a combination of diesel electric submarines and Iskander missiles would make an economical and potent combination which could neutralize all the major US cities, as all of them were located near to the coast.

    I had earlier voiced by desire quite a few times to see the 636 design with VLS module to accomodate Iskander based missiles. Russian's didn't deliver, but the South Koreans finally did it.

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    Post  Dima Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:05 pm

    Hole wrote:North Korea Armes Forces: News - Page 8 Kr_par10

    More air defence?
    This was wrongly attributed as a new version of AD missile system by online analysts (and most didnt show much interests in this system either), even though this specific system was paraded amongst the rocket forces of the DPRK during last years parade, giving ample clue that it likely was a new long range cruise missile.

    So as it stands now, two of these long-range cruise missiles was fired on September 11th & 12th with a flight time of 7,580 seconds (2hr 6min 20sec) and hit targets at 1,500 km.
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    Now, only if they had some good ships like the Pr.11611 or Pr.22160 to carry them.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:11 am

    I had earlier voiced by desire quite a few times to see the 636 design with VLS module to accomodate Iskander based missiles. Russian's didn't deliver, but the South Koreans finally did it.

    Didn't Ironsightsniper also make such a suggestion.

    I didn't like the idea because of the INF treaty... a ship based Iskander missile would not be limited to the INF treaty but the US would complain that a naval weapon could be deployed to ground based formations and violate the INF treaty without them being able to check every single missile... you know... like AEGIS ASHORE could use Tomahawk LACMs that also violate the INF treaty despite US claims they could not fire such weapons.

    Well now that the INF treaty is gone they can spend money on land and sea and air launched versions.

    With the air launched version launching it from a high flying fast MiG-31k gives it a range of 2,000km which makes it a very viable system... the aircraft effectively becomes an extra stage for the missile to get it to 18km altitude and mach 2.2 or there abouts flight speed before the main rocket motor even starts up.

    It is important to remember that the Iskander is not a ballistic missile... it climbs to an altitude of about 100km and the flys horizontally like an aircraft to the target area with sensors and chaff and jammers on board to detect enemy air defences and during its terminal phase will manouver at high speed to make itself difficult to intercept.

    Unification of design would save money, so a single stage Iskander is fine on land for the moment and the air launched anti ship missile for the MiG is fine at the moment too, but if you wanted a SSM for ships then you would probably want to add an extra rocket stage to get it to the altitude and speed a MiG can get it to so its performance will be similar to the air launched version. A solid rocket booster should be a quick and easy solution there...

    For the future however it actually makes sense to shift to a scramjet powered missile because it means it can go faster and further and be more sophisticated in its use of fuel.

    A solid rocket has a fixed burn rate and fixed energy profile... a good example would be an MANPAD missile like Verba. From the ground when you launch it it needs to burn a lot of fuel and use lots of energy to accelerate and climb away from the ground... lets call that fuel X. The problem with X fuel is that while powerful it is burned up very rapidly. The Verba missile is about 12kgs so if we take away the weight of all the bits and bobs we might have perhaps 7kgs for fuel... if the whole 7kgs of fuel is fuel X then it might reach mach 3 but all the fuel will be gone in a few seconds and then it starts to slow down. What they normally do... especially for very long range rockets is to have two types of solid rocket fuel... one high energy to get the missile up to speed and one lower energy to over come drag to maintain speed and greatly increase range. The missile at low altitude will have a speed limit so even if the entire 12kgs of weight in the missile was propellent X its top speed might only be mach 3 because that is the limit of the shape and weight at that altitude. Using aerodynamics and calculations you will be able to work out the top reasonable speed the missile can achieve... say Mach 2... so then you work out how much propellent X you need to get to that speed... it might be 2kgs or might be 3 and that is how much propellent X you put in the missile. The rest of the propellent can be propellent Y which burns at a much slower rate with enough thrust to compensate for drag... so the missile gets up to say mach 2 but maintains that speed for a few seconds by burning propellent Y which greatly extends the range.

    The point is that if you put that same ground launched missile in an aircraft and climb to altitude where the air is thinner and colder and give it a decent forward speed then you will massively increase the flight distance and top speed of the missile... at 10km altitude flying at 800km/h its range might go from 6km to 8 or 10km because the aircraft you are launching the missile from essentially becomes and extra flight stage.

    But the core problem remains that the missile thrust and duration are all fixed.

    With boosters normally the fastest acceleration to the highest speed and highest altitude gives the weapon the best boost and the best performance, but the top speed will always be limited so even at 10km the solid rocket motor might only get the missile to mach 3.5.

    What I am trying to say is that you will get better performance from a scramjet engine by setting the throttle to not waste fuel with full power thrust when your speed might only increase 20km/h/h at 100% thrust compared with 70% thrust setting... it would make more sense to use the 70% thrust setting and save an enormous amount of fuel.

    Conversely a heavy aircraft actually benefits from getting airborne and moving at speed as quickly as possible because the faster it is moving the more fuel efficient it can be so using After burners to get off the ground and to cruise height makes sense because for 10 minutes you triple you fuel burn, but then you can drop the thrust right back and spend the rest of the flight at a very low fuel burn cruise.

    It is like driving a car... you accelerate to motor way speeds as quickly as you can do so in a safe manner and then you move to top gear and idle along using the minimum of fuel for your journey... hopefully avoiding having to slow down.

    Sorry for this long dribble... what I am trying to say is that now that the INF treaty is gone a naval Iskander makes sense but conversion from Solid rocket to Scramjet with a big heavy solid rocket booster to get it airborne and moving and a scramjet and multiple fuel tanks that could be dumped along the way and you could have a missile with very long range.... 4-5K kms very easily.

    The enormous advantage would be a standardised naval and land based missile and the replacement air missile could just be the normal missile without the solid rocket booster.

    The design of a scramjet is a big open space so a rocket motor could be included there as well... no point in wasting available space and the extra motor will further add speed and altitude...

    Having a standard weapon across the services would save money and use development and production facilities more efficiently.

    And it would be a very capable system that could eventually replace Zircon at sea and Kinzhal and Iskander in the air and on land respectively.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:53 am

    That is Iskander....
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:05 am

    GarryB wrote:That is Iskander....

    Actually it's a knockoff of South Korean licenced Iskander derivative

    South Korea has a bit of a chronic North Korean spy problem but this is nothing new
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    Post  George1 Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:39 pm

    On September 30, the DPRK National Defense Academy conducted a test launch of a new air defense missile. The purpose of the launch is to confirm the complex combat characteristics of the missile and the practicality of operating the launcher, locator and integrated combat control vehicle.

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    Post  medo Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:02 pm

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    It seems, that Israeli David's Sling missile, which fail to hit Syrian Tochka missile and land in Syrian territory, finaly find its way to North Korea and now we could see North Korean copy od David's Sling missile.

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    Post  George1 Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:02 pm

    Exhibition of new military equipment in the DPRK

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    Post  George1 Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:06 am

    Parade in Pyongyang in honor of the 90th anniversary of the Korean People's Army. 04/25/2022

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    Post  Yugo90 Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:41 am

    George1 wrote:Parade in Pyongyang in honor of the 90th anniversary of the Korean People's Army. 04/25/2022

    Why they have a parade at night ? Its weird...
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    Post  d_taddei2 Fri May 13, 2022 9:14 am

    A few newer systems nice. Various Missile systems, some are anti shipping, a self propelled artillery vehicle, NK copy of kornet mounted on BTR type vehicle, and the last pic is armed with 8 loitering munitions.

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    Post  GarryB Sat May 14, 2022 5:05 am

    With Russia turning away from the west pressure from the west to isolate countries they don't like disappears... so there might be new weapons appearing in Iran and North Korea and Cuba and Vietnam and lots of other places that are not copies but codeveloped licence produced models of weapons.

    Russia is smart enough to know there are smart engineers everywhere and it would be ignorant to ignore them.

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    Post  flamming_python Sat May 14, 2022 5:12 am

    Yugo90 wrote:
    Why they have a parade at night ? Its weird...

    It's North Korea dude

    And don't knock it before you try it

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    Post  mack8 Sun Jan 01, 2023 3:16 pm

    Handover ceremony of 30 MLRS systems of 600mm caliber has taken place in Pyongyang:
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