Russian Su-24 shootdown by Turkish Air Force F-16 fighter

Mustafa wrote:The bullshit written here from some is laughable.

Lets break it down to the facts.

Yes we shot down an airplane. One idiot was killed. Now its diplomatic game and in a few days nobody will speak about it. Thats how it always goes. Evrything else is hot air.

Mustafa wrote:The bullshit written here from some is laughable.

Lets break it down to the facts.

Yes we shot down an airplane. One idiot was killed. Now its diplomatic game and in a few days nobody will speak about it. Thats how it always goes. Evrything else is hot air.

Militarov wrote:

Mustafa wrote:The bullshit written here from some is laughable.

Lets break it down to the facts.

Yes we shot down an airplane. One idiot was killed. Now its diplomatic game and in a few days nobody will speak about it. Thats how it always goes. Evrything else is hot air.

"One idiot was killed."

Kadmos45 wrote:

Mustafa wrote:The bullshit written here from some is laughable.

Lets break it down to the facts.

Yes we shot down an airplane. One idiot was killed. Now its diplomatic game and in a few days nobody will speak about it. Thats how it always goes. Evrything else is hot air.

So murdered russian pilot by some terrorist savages is idiot for you.
Yeah you earned some brown points to russian members right now. And they actually defended you.
Expect imminent ban buddy. Your time on this forum probably will end shortly.


Actual idiots are your dogbros who are killed by hundreds right now, and you as well talking shit that everything will be fine . It will not be and you know that.
I'm afraid Putin will not listen to some hipster wannabe from Bafra.

Mustafa wrote:

But lets break it down, what do you want from us? Putin says he wants an apology. What else? And what then? If we apology what will happen then? What do you expect from us?

The main thing for the turkish people is that our brothers in that region are safe. Russia bombed in that region. Th

Thats a honest question and i hope i get serious answer and no genocide, war bullshit.

Mustafa wrote:The main thing for the turkish people is that our brothers in that region are safe. Russia bombed in that region. There is no ISIS.

Dima wrote:

Solncepek wrote:Urgent (10 minutes ago)
Few Turkish media outlets reporting code red on Syrian border. 5 F-16 scrambled & headed to Syrian border !

Wonder what it could be. Any more on that?
probably Russian/Syrian aircraft started bombing near the Turkish border in the north or maybe the Russi-Syrian aircraft locked/threatened the Turkish F-16??



Considering what mental guys the Turks (& Israel) are the Buk-Ms needs to be flown in on an urgent basis and deployed in Kuweries, Tartous, Latakia and Damascus to be followed by the S-300/400 in Latakia and Damascus.

Mustafa wrote:The bullshit written here from some is laughable.

Lets break it down to the facts.

Yes we shot down an airplane. One idiot was killed. Now its diplomatic game and in a few days nobody will speak about it. Thats how it always goes. Evrything else is hot air.

Mustafa wrote:The bullshit written here from some is laughable.

Lets break it down to the facts.

Yes we shot down an airplane. One idiot was killed. Now its diplomatic game and in a few days nobody will speak about it. Thats how it always goes. Evrything else is hot air.

Dima wrote:Have you called on your Turkish brothers to check if they are still in once piece?  

Mustafa wrote:

Militarov wrote:

Mustafa wrote:The bullshit written here from some is laughable.

Lets break it down to the facts.

Yes we shot down an airplane. One idiot was killed. Now its diplomatic game and in a few days nobody will speak about it. Thats how it always goes. Evrything else is hot air.

"One idiot was killed."

yes. Just one idiot. Thats what soldiers are for evry leader in the world. You must be pretty naive if you believe otherwise.

What do you want from us? Yes our leadership made a mistake and the entire situation is bad.

This topic is no 40 pages full of bullshit, and war mongering from some internet warrior idiots.

But lets break it down, what do you want from us? Putin says he wants an apology. What else? And what then? If we apology what will happen then? What do you expect from us?

The main thing for the turkish people is that our brothers in that region are safe. Russia bombed in that region. There is no ISIS.

Look i dont know russians and never talked with russians outside of business. So what if we apology and make our point clear? That we ignore assad but worry about our people there. Would that be understandable for russians and could they find a solution with us for that and a way to work together?

Thats a honest question and i hope i get serious answer and no genocide, war bullshit.

De kaart die Rusland verspreidde na de crash, kan wetenschappelijk niet juist zijn’, zegt Van Doorsselaere.

‘Het vliegtuig maakt zogezegd een bocht van 90 graden nadat het geraakt wordt door een raket. Dat is nonsens. Dat moet dan een hele zware raket zijn, want het momentum (massa maal snelheid, red.) van een bestaande raket en de explosie is vele malen kleiner dan het momentum van de jet, en kan dus maar een kleine richtingsverandering veroorzaken tijdens de botsing.’

‘Dat de Turken zeggen dat de jet 17 seconden in hun luchtruim vloog, is eveneens nonsens. Omdat we weten van de Turkse kaart hoever het vliegtuig viel van de plaats waar het geraakt werd door de raket, kunnen we ook de snelheid van het vliegtuig schatten’, stelt Van Doorsselaere.

‘De crashsite was ongeveer 8 kilometer van de plaats waar het vliegtuig geraakt werd . Een horizontale afstand van 8 kilometer die afgelegd wordt op 30 seconden (de tijd voor de val) leidt tot een geschatte snelheid van 960km/u. Dit is ook de normale snelheid van lijnvliegtuigen op die hoogte, en is dus een redelijke schatting.’

‘De afstand die het Russische vliegtuig in Turkije doorbracht is iets minder dan 2 kilometer. Als het aan 960km/u vloog, dan bracht het 7,5 seconden door in het Turkse luchtruim. Schattingen limiteren de schending van het Turkse luchtruim tot ten hoogste 10 seconden.’

Mustafa wrote:The bullshit written here from some is laughable.

Lets break it down to the facts.

Yes we shot down an airplane. One idiot was killed. Now its diplomatic game and in a few days nobody will speak about it. Thats how it always goes. Evrything else is hot air.

BKP wrote:Lol, man, this whole thread should be deleted. I cannot believe how some of you let yourselves be led through 40+ pages of trolling. I hope some of you never try boxing.

I have to give this guy props a little bit for his trolling craft.

Mustafa wrote:...............

JohnSnow wrote:

Mustafa wrote:...............

You are a Jihadi imbecile. Can't believe you are still allowed to hang around on this blog.
It's no surprise that your fellow imbeciles in your Jihadi country were disrupting minute silence for victims of your ISIS pals.

I'll probably stop using this blog until mods start taking action on assholes like you.

Khepesh wrote:Rhetorical, simply idle thoughts....

The words of Putin over several days, Lavrov today and the commander of VKS, are words that are normally heard shortly before a declaration of war. The Americans, tho vomitting shit as usual and supporting, in a fashion, Turkey, are actually rather muted. Retired American generals are condemning Turkey and one has apparently called for Turkey to be removed from NATO, and while it is more likely that they speak for themselves, it cannot be completely disregarded that they say what Washington cannot say for political and diplomatic reasons. It seems that except for UK, the home of many IS and other terrorists, Chechens among them, Turkey is abandoned. While it is convenient for Turkey to be an American ally, this is mostly for geographical reasons during cold war. Certainly it is useful for America to have Turkey in it's pocket now of course, but I think the game has changed. Since 1991 America has gained a foothold in Iraq, Afghanistan and is even more entrenched in the gulf states and KSA. Ukraine is being dragged away from Russia, and I think an American presence at least along the Dnepr will be more important for them than bases in Turkey. In a totaly fictional scenario, could it be seen that America will react quickly to the situations and throw Turkey, allowing a war between Turkey and Russia. Any war that involves Russia will be to America's benefit, and a war with Tukey would be a medium sized war in terms of what could be possible, and tie up Russia and be a drain on the economy unless it could be ended quickly. Nukes are out of the question so it would need massive air assault on Turkey with the hope of either quick surrender, or coup or revolution that would cause a surrender. A war with Turkey would have an impact on the situation in Ukraine and, in this fictional scenario, could potentially be a problem for Russia to control the situation. An attack by Kiev with at least rear area support from America, NATO would not be involved but perhaps Cameron will want to bomb Moscow in "self defence" as he is so demented, could succeed if Russia does not respond militarily. Now of course Russian forces as sufficient to engage Turkey and leave full force in western military district, but would it be seen as a necessity to engage in Donbass, particulary if a type of "Operation Storm" is underway and VSN is in difficulty. I am sure a response would be made in Ukraine, but I strongly believe that the pupetteers in America are not rational and will take a risk as for them the prize of a military presence within artillery range of Belgorod will outway the loss of Turkey. Could Turkey at this moment have been led into a trap that will lead to them being thrown by their "friend" in Washington in order to cause a war with Russia in order to gain all Ukraine. Yes, I see flaws in this argument and it seems tinfoil hat loony, but it is simply fictional, tho Karabas Barabas is certainly not rational and is very devious and treacherous.

Mustafa wrote:

JohnSnow wrote:

Mustafa wrote:...............

You are a Jihadi imbecile. Can't believe you are still allowed to hang around on this blog.
It's no surprise that your fellow imbeciles in your Jihadi country were disrupting minute silence for victims of your ISIS pals.

I'll probably stop using this blog until mods start taking action on assholes like you.

1. I´m not believing in god. Religion is a tradition for me.

2. blog? This is a forum. You should learn the differences.

3. Whats your problem? You fear to communicate with the other side? Your opinion must be pretty weak if you fear the other side that much that you want soak in your own soup.

JohnSnow wrote:

Mustafa wrote:

JohnSnow wrote:

Mustafa wrote:...............

You are a Jihadi imbecile. Can't believe you are still allowed to hang around on this blog.
It's no surprise that your fellow imbeciles in your Jihadi country were disrupting minute silence for victims of your ISIS pals.

I'll probably stop using this blog until mods start taking action on assholes like you.

1. I´m not believing in god. Religion is a tradition for me.

2. blog? This is a forum. You should learn the differences.

3. Whats your problem? You fear to communicate with the other side? Your opinion must be pretty weak if you fear the other side that much that you want soak in your own soup.

Why the fuck would I want to talk to the "other side" (whatever the fuck that means) if their purview is anything like yours? If you think that the drivel you've been posting on here is a form of communication, you are sorely mistaken. Pro tip - calling a fallen Pilot a "dead idiot" is not communication. I'm not even Russian or Eastern European, and I'm seething with incredulity at your idiocy.

I'm done - ignoring you will do the trick.