Mustafa wrote:I found this forum on google. Yes i do work in tourism industry like many of my people. I´m animateur, do PR and work as fitness trainer and tour guide. I also wrote that in my profile here. But i´m here private and not for business.
Look, like most of my people i´m patriotic. I love my nation and will always defend it.
There's nothing wrong with that.
What happened today isn´t good. But i wasn´t there and only know what i hear, like evryone here. Fact is, that russia violated our airspace and did so before often enough. I totally agree that a strong message was needed to show russia that turkey will always defend its area. I don´t think shooting down the airplane was good. It would have been ok to shot warning shots and to make clear that next time it would be shot down.
If murder isn't good, then it's "not good".
I will also not apology for many reasons.
1. i don´t speak for my government. And i didn´t order to shot the airplane down.
No one asked you to present apologies.
2. apologies don´t make anything better at all.
Yes this is a triple murder, so indeed it doesn't work.
What happened did happen and both our nations should sit together and talk about what was done wrong so things get better.
I don't think Nations have the luxury to "sit together". Their leaders do. Your leaders and Russian leaders aren't going to get close in at least 40 days.
Look we too have russian guests and we never bad towards them. And i hope a deal can be brought through so relations get better.
This isn't about relations. It's about an act of war. A premeditated, deliberate, act of war. Turkish data puts the Russian plane out of the Turkish airspace at impact and probably at targeting. So the decision to shoot the Russian plane, had nothing to do with tresspassing. This you need to understand.
I believe it just happened so i understand that seems impossible now. Best thing is to wait a few days and then start talks and find a compromise both sides can live with.
I wish russia all the best and hope russians dont see us as bad. Thats what i hope.
Nothing to do with Russians, everything to do with Turkish leadership. Also the fact your army overtly showed itself as a side in this conflict (since it shot down the plane FOR the rebels) there's basically nothing to do about this. I hope you'll understand when Russians arm the Kurds, because that's what Turkey did.
Rodinazombie wrote:One question, why didnt theSAR team not have an escort knowing full well they were going into a hot zone?
they had a Mil Mi 24P, the Mil Mi 8/17 was fired as approaching the crash area, it was forced to land and while the Russians had boarded in the 24P, the Mil Mi 8/17 was hit by TOW.