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    Post  GarryB Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:06 pm

    RPGs are easy to carry and can be used at much shorter ranges than most guided missiles... and for ambushes or for protecting flanks and unexpected directions of enemy attacks they are light and handy and powerful.

    Most soldiers can sling 2-3 RPG-22s or RPG-26s for hitting point targets out to 300m or so that their rifle fire wont effect.
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    Post  Isos Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:30 pm

    So it turns out that Russia has already a solution against APS. RPG-30 has two rounds and we thought for a long time that the small one was just to activate the APS so that the main round could go throught  

    Well reality is that the small round is an EMP that disables the APS.  Shocked


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    From 20 min to 50 min. It's a former russian scientist that worked in MiC before being jailed for espionage and switched with russian spies.

    There is already a video of him talking about russian SAM at an israeli conference.

    Here he talks about russian ground forces organization.

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    Post  George1 Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:29 am

    Russia developing next-generation RPO-2 flamethrower

    https://tass.com/defense/1360455

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    Post  GarryB Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:43 am

    That is odd... does that mean they are not happy with the RPO-M?

    The RPG-32 seems to be a reusable launcher for 72mm and 105mm disposable rockets in HEAT and thermobaric warhead types, which essentially means the RPG-32 can fire the equivalent of the RPG-26 (72mm) and RPG-27 (105mm) disposable rockets with a reusable sight and launcher component.

    The Bur and RPO-M seem to be the same gripstock and sighting system with 62mm (BUR) and 90mm (RPO-M) rockets attached.

    In addition to different calibre RPGs there are other rocket launcher types... both reusable and disposable single shot including RMG, MRO, RShG, RPO etc etc.

    It appeared to me that the way forward seemed to be consolidating all the different ammo types with a few select gripstocks with optical sights to improve accuracy while retaining the variety of launched rockets for different purposes.

    Now they talk about RPO-2?

    I would rather see all the different rocket types and sizes all merged together with one gripstock and one optical sight... would need to be thermal and optical with a laser range finder built in with a ballistic computer included so you attach whatever rocket you have and lase the target and it generates an aiming point to improve accuracy and effective range potential... and simplify the rockets by making them munitions cannisters with no need for triggers and sights.
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    Post  flamming_python Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:10 am

    GarryB wrote:That is odd... does that mean they are not happy with the RPO-M?

    The RPG-32 seems to be a reusable launcher for 72mm and 105mm disposable rockets in HEAT and thermobaric warhead types, which essentially means the RPG-32 can fire the equivalent of the RPG-26 (72mm) and RPG-27 (105mm) disposable rockets with a reusable sight and launcher component.

    The Bur and RPO-M seem to be the same gripstock and sighting system with 62mm (BUR) and 90mm (RPO-M) rockets attached.

    In addition to different calibre RPGs there are other rocket launcher types... both reusable and disposable single shot including RMG, MRO, RShG, RPO etc etc.

    It appeared to me that the way forward seemed to be consolidating all the different ammo types with a few select gripstocks with optical sights to improve accuracy while retaining the variety of launched rockets for different purposes.

    Now they talk about RPO-2?

    I would rather see all the different rocket types and sizes all merged together with one gripstock and one optical sight... would need to be thermal and optical with a laser range finder built in with a ballistic computer included so you attach whatever rocket you have and lase the target and it generates an aiming point to improve accuracy and effective range potential... and simplify the rockets by making them munitions cannisters with no need for triggers and sights.

    If you click the link you'll see that it mentions the weapon system being mounted on a UAV

    Which would allow for a lot more precision I'd imagine
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    Post  GarryB Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:17 am

    They have already shown disposable launchers on ground vehicles before and there was an RPG-29 launcher mounted on patrol aircraft in the past I believe too.

    Some of those URAN-9 vehicles have have been shown with disposable launchers mounted which often looked like RPO-As too...

    Would they need a new version for that?
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    Post  flamming_python Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:44 pm

    GarryB wrote:They have already shown disposable launchers on ground vehicles before and there was an RPG-29 launcher mounted on patrol aircraft in the past I believe too.

    Some of those URAN-9 vehicles have have been shown with disposable launchers mounted which often looked like RPO-As too...

    Would they need a new version for that?

    Perhaps the idea is for a custom mini-UAV just for the RPO system (and in the future other types of RPGs). It can be carried by one man, launched into the air, then controlled. The sighting systems and launcher (or two) would be built into the UAV, saving a little weight and space. This would allow the RPO man to fire from cover and from a distance essentially, and with the benefit of an electronic sighting system calculating for ballistics and wind. The UAV would only need batteries for 5 minutes worth of endurance per outing. Afterwards it can return to the owner and be reloaded.

    Kind of like that UAV shotgun or what was it that they designed.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:44 am

    If it was airborne and could be flown closer to the target you could reduce the propellent portion but keep the power, so you could have a rocket the weight of the 62mm BUR, but with the warhead of the 90mm RPO-A...
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    Post  Hole Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:32 pm

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    I guess this is ammo for the SPG "guns".

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    Post  GarryB Sun Nov 26, 2023 7:21 am

    Nice, the 40mm are for launch from RPG-7 launchers with a 40mm tube.

    The 73mm are either SPG-9 or BMP-1 main gun rocket calibre and are the interesting ones I have not seen a lot of.

    The 105mm rockets are for the RPG-29 reusable rocket launcher.

    105mm SPG-9 recoilless rocket launcher would be interesting.

    The difference between the SPG-9 and the 73mm rockets fired by the gun of the BMP-1 is that the SPG-9 rockets had a lot more propellent attached to them because being a recoilless rocket launcher it needed more push and the extra propellent blew out the back of the weapon so the launcher could remain light and portable.

    Thanks for posting.
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    Post  Hole Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:52 am

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    Post  GarryB Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:10 am

    It is interesting how much smaller the 73mm BMP-1 round looks to the other rockets. Sure it is more like a mortar than a rocket because it fires from a closed tube gun, but the actual projectile looks rather smaller too despite also being 73mm calibre.

    I guess that is because the RPG uses a sustainer motor that burns after the rocket has left the tube, and I suspect the SPG-9 rockets do the same... the large propellent charge around the tail fin section blows the round out of the launcher and then after a short delay the onboard rocket on the RPG-7 starts up and powers the rocket accelerating it to higher flight speeds and a rather better distance than the launch propellent could ever manage.

    The flared bit where the rockets attach to the launcher is where the rocket exhaust nozzles are and they are angled to cause spin to roll the rocket in flight so it is less likely to veer off in one direction or another. Placing the nozzles essentially at the front of the propellent section means the propellent actually burns from the front to the back which helps with balance and centre of gravity... if it just burned from the rear the front would get very heavy very quickly and you would have to aim up like it was a mortar to hit anything more than a few hundred metres away.

    Th 73mm rockets leave the tube at much higher speeds and the rocket motor itself is much bigger than the 40mm rocket on the RPG-7 so there is no need for the mid section mounted rocket nozzles for balance, and same with the RPG-29 which also does not seem to have mid mounted rocket exhausts.


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