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    Post  higurashihougi Mon May 04, 2015 2:20 pm

    Anybody who can use Slovak please verify it.

    http://latestnewsresource.com/en/news/slovakija-zamenit-sovetskie-vertolety-mi-17-na-amerikanskie-black-hawk
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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun May 10, 2015 1:14 am

    i am not an american, but these plans stand for an while now and i do think they will go trough if there wont be a major shift in the ruling party's in the Czech Republic. the pro-US propaganda machine is working full force there as well.

    its absolute bullshit the Czech government points to Ukraine for replacing its MI-17 fleet. among NATO the Czechs are known to be the EU specialists on MI-17's and MI-24's. i personally loved talking with them about the MI helicopters when i met them during exercises. their technicians and pilots really know every bolt thats part of the MI's 17 and 24.
    its really purely the politicians talking as the Czech's have their current MI-17 fleet modernized and still got enough spare parts from their cold war stock. i did not know at the time but the cold war stocks in the czech republic are so high they also got several companies dismantling heavy weaponry as tanks and APC's for the EU/US civilian market. i looked it up, for 50.000 Euro's you can get your own fully functional T-72.

    anyway...

    Czech Pilots feel the Blackhawk is an "downgrade" for its comparison quality's to the MI-17. the UH-60 has more maintenance, smaller troop capacity, and lack of tactical options it could do in relation to the MI-17 in the field.
    Czech's are an bit sensitive when it comes to Russia after they where invaded, but regardless of all that i heard both Technicians and Pilots sneer out at their own politicians that it was never about finding an good replacement. its simply to crawl the Americans up the ass and make american weapons manufacturers richer, get dependent on them for spare parts and the Czech's would be stuck with an inferior platform than the up to date MI-17's they already have.
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    Post  max steel Mon May 18, 2015 3:44 pm

    You're correct Higure .

    Slovakia to Replace Russian-Made Helicopters With 9 U.S. Black Hawks


    Slovakia has agreed to buy nine U.S.-made Black Hawk helicopters for $261 million, to replace its outdated Russian Mi-17 fleet, reducing the NATO country's dependence on Russian parts and servicing, a spokesman said.

    "The decision to reduce our dependence on Russia was taken even before the conflict in Ukraine began and considering recent developments it proved to be a good one," Defense Ministry spokesman Martin Cambalik said Thursday.

    The conflict in neighboring Ukraine, in which the West accuses Russia of supporting rebels, has hastened decisions around the region to raise military spending and turn to Western suppliers.

    "We could have some equipment repaired but EU sanctions forbid import of Russian spare parts," Cambalik said.

    Last year, Slovakia signed a deal with Italy's Alenia Aermacchi for two Spartan C-27J transport aircraft to replace Russian Antonovs.

    It has also been in talks with the Swedish government on leasing Gripen fighter jets to replace Russian Mig-29s. A tender for new air defense radars is also under way.

    Slovakia spends 1 percent of gross domestic product on defense, half of its NATO commitment. But it has pledged to raise that to 1.6 percent of GDP by 2020.

    Black Hawk helicopters are made by Sikorsky Aircraft Corp, a unit of United Technologies


    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/slovakia-to-replace-russian-made-helicopters-with-9-us-black-hawks/520103.html




    Russian Helicoptors get american hoses : The Mi-8 and Mi-17 models, which Russian Helicopters supplies domestically and around the world, from now on will feature more durable and robust hoses made of Teflon, a material that has largely replaced rubber in the global aircraft industry.

    Rubber hoses made in Russia aren't as good as they could be, said Yury Lebedev, head of aerospace projects for Eaton in Russia.

    "Several technologies that are required for rubber hose production were lost in recent years " .

    Russia getting dependent on US polymers ? Eh . They aren't that hard to make .


    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russian-helicopters-get-american-hoses/466723.html
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    Post  higurashihougi Tue May 19, 2015 6:21 am

    Thks you all. So first is Bulgaria said something about replace MiG-29 with F-xx and now the Slovak goverment is replacing Mi with Blackhawk, and MiG-29 with, wait, Gripen ?

    Dear me, so will Eastern Europe countries use M16 and M4 instead of AK ? I don't even want to think of it.
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    Post  George1 Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:00 am

    Slovakia will buy the Polish armored vehicles Rosomak

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    Post  Book. Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:12 am

    Russia and Slovakia will sign an agreement for upgrade of Mi-17 helicopters
    Russian Aviaton » Friday July 17, 2015 15:39 MSK

    Russia and Slovakia may sign an agreement for upgrade of Mi-17 helicopters soon, TASS reports with reference to Prime Minister of Slovakia Robert Fico.

    “I hope that the agreement for upgrade of Mi-17 helicopters (and other vehicles) carried out in Slovakia will be signed soon,” Fico said.

    He also said that Bratislava is interested in upgrading its S-300 air defense systems. “I would like to admit that Slovakia is interested in upgrading S-300 systems,” Fico said.

    The Slovakian Prime Minister also noted that his country is interested in Russian civil aviation. In particular, Sukhoi SuperJet 100 and “Tu” (Tupolev) civil aircraft were demonstrated to the delegation prior to departure.

    http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2015/7/17/3339/

    Slovak C300 moderna ? let see ..
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    Post  GarryB Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:51 am

    Rubber hoses made in Russia aren't as good as they could be, said Yury Lebedev, head of aerospace projects for Eaton in Russia.

    "Several technologies that are required for rubber hose production were lost in recent years " .

    Russia getting dependent on US polymers ? Eh . They aren't that hard to make .

    Odd... it suggests the whole world uses teflon hoses, but says technologies for rubber hose production were lost... suggesting rubber hoses were as good as teflon hoses... which also suggests countries that are Russian clients or just not friendly to the US might have continued to use Rubber.
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:33 am

    George1 wrote:Slovakia will buy the Polish armored vehicles Rosomak



    These vehicles are crap according to many Poles. The armor can reportedly be penetrated by AK-47 bullets. It is tall making it an easier target.

    The vehicle itself is not really Polish, but made in Poland on a license from some Finnish company (Patria?), and there are strong suspicions that the whole licensing was an intentional move to destroy the Polish military industrial complex, and that the vehicle's selection involved bribery.

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    Post  George1 Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:16 pm

    Slovak Defense Ministry Eyes Gripen Lease Deal After Election

    WARSAW — Slovakia's Defense Ministry is planning to sign a deal to lease Saab JAS-39 Gripen fighter jets from the aircraft manufacturer following the parliamentary election which is scheduled for March 2016, the ministry's spokesman told local business daily E15.

    The Slovak Air Force is aiming to ink a contract under which it will be provided with eight fighter jets enabled with 1,200 flight hours per year. The deal is to be modeled on a similar lease contract signed by neighboring Czech Republic. Prague pays some 1.3 billion krona (US $53 million) annually to operate 14 JAS-39 Gripen aircraft enabled with 2,200 flight hours per year.

    Should the Slovak military operate the same type of aircraft which are used by the Czech Air Force, the two countries could pursue their plans to increase the interoperability of their respective air forces.

    The March vote will see the ruling left-wing Smer-Social Democracy party of Prime Minister Robert Fico compete against the predominantly centrist and right-wing opposition parties. Fico has served as Slovakia's prime minister since April 2012.

    An opinion poll published by local news agency SITA last December indicated that Smer-SD has the largest popular support among the contending parties, with 42.2 percent of the total.

    http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/2016/01/05/slovak-defense-ministry-eyes-gripen-lease-deal-after-election/78307514/
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    Post  Guest Fri Jun 03, 2016 5:53 pm

    "Slovakia’s MSM Group to exhibit new Corsac 8×8 infantry fighting vehicle based on the Pandur II armoured personnel carrier at International Defence Exhibition Bratislava, IDEB 2016.

    The Corsac 8×8 is a upgraded model of Pandur II armored personnel carriers developed as a private venture by the Austrian company Steyr-Daimler-Puch Spezialfahrzeuge. The Corsa infantry fighting vehicle developed jointly MSM Group and GDELS Steyr, with the participation of Slovak EVPU and Konstrukta Defence companies.

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    Combat weight Corsac in the standard configuration is 19.8 tons, the vehicle has a length of 7.43 m, width 2.67 m, height 2.95 and and ground clearance of 0.45 m. APC has armor protection for the NATO standard STANAG 4569 Level 2 and mine protection level STANAG 4569 level 3A / B.

    The prototype measures 7.43 x 2.67 x 2.95 m and has a ground clearance of 0.45 m. The vehicle is operated by a three-person crew comprising the commander, driver, and gunner with provision for up to six dismounts or 9,500 kg of payload."


    Source: http://defence-blog.com/army/slovakias-msm-group-presents-new-corsac-8x8-infantry-fighting-vehicle.html
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    Post  George1 Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:06 pm

    Slovakia Set to Acquire 30 Advanced Tanks from Poland
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    Post  George1 Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:05 am

    Slovakia received the first two helicopters UH-60M Black Hawk

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    Post  Airman Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:41 am

    Are there any news about the Slovak S-300 system? As far as I remember, They want Russia to modernize their S-300 system.
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    Post  George1 Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:51 pm

    Slovakia received the first military transport aircraft C-27J

    October 24, 2017 at the Slovak airfield Kuchiny arrived from Italy, the first of the two ordered for the Air Force of Slovakia turboprop military transport aircraft Leonardo C-27J Spartan (onboard number "1931"). The official ceremony of handing the machine over to the Slovakian Air Force will take place on October 31.

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    Post  Airman Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:26 pm

    Greenlight for Slovakia's F-16 Block 70 Request

    Slovakia requested 14 F-16 Block 70/72 V configuration from the US under a Foreign Military Sales contract with an estimated cost of $2.91 billion. The Congress was notified of this possible sale on 3 April.

    The country also requested up to 16 F-16 F110 General Electric or F100 Pratt & Whitney engines, 16 APG-83 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) Radars, 16 LN260 EGI Embedded Global Positioning System Inertial Navigation Systems (EGI) (MDE), 30 AIM-120C7 air-to-air missiles, 100 AIM-9X air-to­ air missiles, 24 AIM-9X additional guidance units and other equipment.

    Slovakia intends to use these F-16s to modernize its Air Force and strengthen its homeland defence.

    Greenlight for Slovakia's F-16 Block 70 Request
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    Post  George1 Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:34 am

    Slovakia has decided to purchase American fighters F-16V Block 70/72

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3268555.html

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    Post  Isos Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:21 am

    George1 wrote:Slovakia has decided to purchase American fighters F-16V Block 70/72

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3268555.html


    1.6 billion euro for 14 f-16. They should have bought alien tech for that price lol1

    US need to pay back all the investment of f-35 so sattelite countries pay for it ...
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    Post  George1 Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:27 pm

    Slovakia has signed an agreement to acquire 14 US F-16V fighter jets

    As the Slovak Ministry of Defense reported, on December 12, 2018, the Minister of Defense of Slovakia Peter Gaidos signed in the presence of Slovak Prime Minister Petar Pellegrini in the office of the Government of the Slovak Republic in Bratislava agreements and contract for the acquisition of 14 American fighter jets for the Slovak Air Force F-16V Lockheed Martin 70/72 (12 single and two doubles). The cost of the purchase will be more than 1.6 billion euros, which makes it the largest defense contract in the history of independent Slovakia.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3453918.html
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    Post  GarryB Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:20 am

    That is over $110 million per aircraft... I thought the F-16 was supposed to be the cheap aircraft?

    Still, I suppose if they sold it cheap who would buy F-35s?
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    Post  George1 Sat May 13, 2023 2:06 pm

    Slovakia will buy American JLTV armored vehicles

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4697527.html
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    Post  George1 Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:03 pm

    Slovakia received the first Patria AMVXP armored personnel carrier

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    Post  George1 Fri Jan 12, 2024 2:17 pm

    Slovakia received the first F-16 fighters



    https://breakingdefense.com/2024/01/lockheed-martin-delivers-first-pair-of-f-16-block-70-fighter-jets-to-slovakia/

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:46 pm

    https://www.flugrevue.de/militaer/neue-regierung-klagt-an-slowakische-mig-29-spende-an-die-ukraine-hochverrat-v1/

    13 Slovak MiG-29s made a donation to Ukraine in spring 2023 - a highly controversial gift in Slovakia.


    NEW GOVERNMENT ACCUSES
    Slovakian MiG-29 donation to Ukraine “high treason”?

    Slovakia decommissioned its MiG-29 at the end of 2022 - to give it away to Ukraine. Since then, NATO has taken over the protection of Slovakian airspace. The new defense minister is outraged. He denounces the MiG donation as "illegal."


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    A dispute has flared up in Slovakia, centered on a fighter plane that no longer exists in the country: the MiG-29. But the very fact that the Slovaks no longer fly MiGs is at the heart of the allegations that Defense Minister Robert Kaliňák from the Smer party smears his predecessor Jaroslav Naď on bread. As a member of the executive minority government, he initiated the donation of 13 Slovak MiG-29s to Ukraine in March 2023. For the incumbent Minister Kaliňák, this is one thing above all: treason.

    Weakening of the armed forces
    Kaliňák now branded with distinctive words to the Slovak press the donation of the MiGs, which resulted in a "unconstitutional weakening of the armed forces. In fact, since the MiG-29 was decommissioned at the end of 2022, Slovakia has no longer been able to protect its airspace on its own. Since then, partner nations of NATO have taken on this task, including the German Air Force between autumn and Christmas 2023. Slovakia has ordered F-16 Block 70 as MiG successor in the USA, but delivery is a long time coming.


    Constitutional issues
    It is no secret that the new Slovak government under Prime Minister Roberto Fico is taking a much more distant course in Ukraine than the previous cabinet. Defense Minister Kaliňák's reasoning is primarily aimed at formal legal backgrounds. As a result, his predecessor Naď had no authorization in spring 2023 to arrange for the MiG-29 to be handed over to the Ukrainians free of charge, since the cabinet at that time had already lost its legitimacy in December 2022 due to a vote of no confidence by Parliament and was only in office on an interim basis. Naď was therefore not authorized to arbitrarily decide such a "fundamental foreign policy question.Instead, the parliament should have approved the decision – and there the government at that time no longer had a majority in March 2023.

    Ex-Minister does not regret anything
    Minister Naď had evaded this decision-making at the time by relying on a legal analysis that the MiGs' gift was a "military contract, for which the approval of the incumbent government is sufficient. "He lied, he shamelessly lied to members of the National Council," said Acting Defense Minister Kaliňák. The MiG-29 fleet was donated to Kiev against the will of the coalition partners at the time, saying that Naď "betrayed national values." Kaliňák therefore announced a criminal complaint against his predecessor.

    The accused himself stands by his decision from back then: he is very pleased that the then government of Ukraine donated MiGs, Naď said by video. The jets would be reimbursed through the European Peace Facility, "they save lives, and if we had the opportunity again, we would not make any other decision," the ex-minister continued.

    Maybe after the Ukrainian war is finished and Slovakia has a land border with Russia, they will leave NATO in order to be a neutral country and they will even order MiG-35, in addition to Il-212 transport planes
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    Post  GarryB Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:37 pm

    Or when this war finishes a new iron curtain descends between Russia and HATO but instead of the Soviets building walls in Germany it will be HATO countries building walls and closing embassies and Russia responding in kind.

    Any trade Russia had with the west seemed for the most part to benefit the west mostly and Russia got ripped off.

    In such a situation I would say stay out of the garden and leave the high walls alone... if they want trade with Russia then let them beg and let them offer much better terms than they are used to offering up until now.

    I doubt they could bring themselves to show that level or respect so there is no need for trade or relationships in that direction for quite some time to come.

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