jhelb wrote: Firebird wrote:
In the words of Bruce Lee, all a black belt does is hold up your trousers. Some people pick up effective martial arts quickly. Others are black belts but only in the sports ie not combat sense.
Firebird wrote:I learned Karate, then Tae Kwon Do, then internal Kung Fu. So I'm TKD for the basic movement and kicks. And Kung Fu for the punches and power generation.
Firebird, this is great insight. Meaning simply having a black belt is just not enough. So in your experience and given the fact that you have an impressive array of Martial Art skills do you think that the average Joes, who do not have your skills can fend off an attack from multiple opponents? What do they need to do? Say someone with my physical background......
I am short just about 5'8'' and
weigh around 75 kilos.
Werewolf wrote:reality is not like movies and most people are not masters even when they practice MA alot to deal with many opponents at the same time.
Yeah I used the movie part just to highlight the scenario. So what you are saying is that in reality it is not possible for an individual to successfully fend off an attack carried out by multiple opponents?
1stly it depends what sort of situation do you want to prepare for. Are you planning to be a nightclub bouncer? Or just protect your shop from a gang robbing you? Perhaps just want to be safe on a night out, or walking thro a wild part of town.
Then there's the issue of your own outlook. I mean, will you love martial arts and really commit to them. Or do you just want to improve your fitness a bit? Or is it just a means to an end?
The easy answer for a lot of situations is as Regular says, to just have a weapon. But that could get you locked up if you go about it the wrong way. One option is carrying an implement that could be *used* as a weapon, but not run you foul of the law.
As for martial arts, well that takes time and smart focus to achieve. Real top level unarmed combat teaching isn't given away quickly by most instructors.
Deciding which system. Well you could simply go bodybuilding and bulk up quickly which would likely frighten off opportunist nuts. But if you want REAL fight skills I'd say kung fu is the elite system, but that can take years. Krav Maga, Sambo and Systema are similar to it, as far as I can see. And you'll prob accelerate quicker in the early days than in the traditional discipline of kung fu.
TaeKwonDo training is more sport orientated, in my view. Karate is ok, depending on whether its a sport or combat form. Judo or grappling arts I dont think are enough without a striking art.
Really you need power, durability (taking a blow), speed, knowhow (comes from sparring/practice).
You also need a fighters mindset ie dont panic etc. And ideally you'd have a training like ironshirt, iron fist etc so you can give and take powerful blows without damage.
I'd say try a few different classes and decide which instructors/organisations you feel comfortable with.
Some people love sparring for example. But others (and excellent fighters too) dont want to spar. This will dictate what is a suitable system.
Finally, I'd say never misuse martial arts, or actively go looking for hassle . Lots of cities have a few people who are really really good. And they're liable to do serious injury to someone misusing their art.
Its always best to walk away from a dispute unless the other party overwhelmingly deserves it.
The guy who trained me was 5'0, was 130 lbs, British (not Chinese), and looked pretty camp. He looked the idea target for a bar-room bully. But fuck, he could kill someone without even trying.
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Ultimately, I'd say you need to spend atleast a yr (prob longer!) training before you are accomplished enough for multiple assaillants. And that would be with a good combat focussed school such as Jeet Kun Do etc.
After 2.5 or 3 yrs, you could be classed as a "mature" exponent, but could still learn lots more.
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