Finland Prez Sauli Niinistö and Defese Mins Carl Haglund, and Prez of EU Commission Jean-Claude Juncker supported it.
Don't know whether it is an attempt to break out of US sphere and NATO, or it will be just a puppet of NATO ?
higurashihougi wrote:http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1815814
Finland Prez Sauli Niinistö and Defese Mins Carl Haglund, and Prez of EU Commission Jean-Claude Juncker supported it.
Don't know whether it is an attempt to break out of US sphere and NATO, or it will be just a puppet of NATO ?
GarryB wrote:well... thinking about it a bit more... is this an attempt to exclude the US from European matters that don't really involve the US... like the Ukraine?
Lothar von Trotha wrote:4. Leaving NATO
George1 wrote:
Setting up common EU armed forces may be on agenda of June summit — European Commission
Jean-Claude Juncker came forward with a proposal for creating the EU’s own army in an interview to the German weekly Welt am Zontag
BRUSSELS, 9 March. /TASS/. The idea of setting up EU armed forces may be on agenda of the June summit, the European Commission's press service told TASS on Monday.
The chief of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker came forward with a proposal for creating the EU’s own army in an interview to the German weekly Welt am Zontag.
"A common European Army would show the world that there will be no more wars among the EU countries. Such an army would enable us to conduct a foreign policy and a policy of security and to become aware of Europe’s responsibility in the world," he said.
"In the nuclear age extra armies do not provide any additional security. But they surely can play a provocative role," Klintsevich said, adding it was regrettable that such ideas had already met with some support.
jka wrote:Biggest troops 2015-2016:
France - 197,000
Germany - 117,000
Greece - 108,950
Spain - 100,000
Poland - 99,340
Romania - 73,150
UK will leave EU.
Finland maybe have 36,500 and Sweden have 20,500 Home Guard soldiers in south and 9500 in professionel Army. 30,000 in total for Sweden. Maybe it is concripts on way in Sweden reserve force of 30,000 soldiers in north. And maybe 9500 Army Group or 19,951 in professionel Army Groups in 1st size.
30,000 forces in reserve cost Sweden 500-600 million euro. Then near 2 billion euro the 19,951 1st forces or 500-600 million euro for 9500 Army. South Sweden first Army in Sweden. Whatever it be they will cost us money of rehabilitation of the Army Groups or Army plus reserve force.
Note that "neutral" but NATO leaning Sweden, + Italy & none of the former E. Bloc members r in it.The structure included France, Germany, Belgium, Great Britain, Denmark, Estonia, the Netherlands, Spain and Portugal.
In addition, it is likely that the coalition will also support Finland.
No need to put many IRBMs there- the USN/AF has plenty of long range CMs...the U.S will exploit to host IRBMs all over the place
.."unified" European elite (Germans/French gluing everyone else) hostile to Russia (for the simple fact that Russia is competition to German/French influence in Europe - it's also economic competition, and ideological competition - and that's never gonna change - thus containing Russia is and always will be the goal - to the best of their ability).
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