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    Post  whir Sun May 24, 2015 6:17 pm

    Kimppis wrote:Is Lithuania the most russophobe place on Earth? 0 points for Russia! That was fucking ridiculous. Very Happy Not politicized at all. Fucking assholes..
    It was the jury's fault, take a look.
    Eurovision wrote:In accordance with the Rules of the 2015 Eurovision Song Contest, Lithuania voted with 50% televoting and 50% jury voting

    Detailed Results

    Televoting rank -> Estonia 1, Latvia 2, Russia 3

    Jury
    A - Lauras Luciunas (music producer) - Russia 26
    B - Jolita Vaitkeviciene (choir Conductor) - Russia 13
    C - Jurga Cekatauskaite (journalist) - Russia 26
    D - Jurgis Bruzga (singer) - Russia 19
    E - Rosita Civilyte (singer) - Russia 10

    Combined -> Russia 11 = 0 points


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    Post  Regular Sun May 24, 2015 8:28 pm

    Well Lithuanian jury didn't give points to Russia because of politics (Russian singer singing about peace and etc,) Televoters didn't give a crap and voted and gave predictable votes. Estonia, Latvia and Russia were top 3. Do these countries deserve them points. Hell should I know, all contest was so bland. People just vote for neighbors. Russia has plenty of them. Even Georgia gave Russia quite good score.
    But anyway I was watching Eurovision with MUTE ON and Iron maiden was playing in the background. This contest is so crap:D
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    Post  Karl Haushofer Sun May 24, 2015 8:40 pm

    Didn't Eurovision introduce this "jury" system after Russia won the contest in 2008? Up until then the winner of Eurovision was decided with a direct vote of citizens of countries who participate in the Eurovision. But after Russia won the current jury system was taken in place of direct vote.

    I guess they made this change to prevent Russia from winning to contest again. With these "juries" they can make sure that only the "correct" nations win the contest.

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    Post  Regular Sun May 24, 2015 11:29 pm

    It's more to do with Balkans voting for each other. It was Balkanovision before.
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    Post  max steel Mon May 25, 2015 12:31 am

    Thank f-ing God russia didn't win ‪#‎ESC2015‬ and have to host that freakshow/LGBT pageant in Moscow next year. Whew! Way too close for comfort...


    Bearded weirdos, gays kissing on stage, PT Barnum would have loved it . Shame Ukraine didn't get through......Topless femen sluts with swastika armbands would have put the icing on the cake!
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    Post  whir Mon May 25, 2015 11:35 am

    max steel wrote:Thank f-ing God russia didn't win ‪#‎ESC2015‬ and have to host that freakshow/LGBT pageant in Moscow next year. Whew! Way too close for comfort...

    Bearded weirdos, gays kissing on stage, PT Barnum would have loved it . Shame Ukraine didn't get through......Topless femen sluts with swastika armbands would have put the icing on the cake!
    In 2003 EBU prohibited T.aT.u. to kiss on stage after complains from several countries, with Ireland among them that gave the victory to Turkey in the last moment after switching to the backup jury for technical reasons.

    Moscow 2009 First Semifinal Interval Act (Alexandrov Ensemble + T.aT.u. + inflatable pink T-72) russia


    Ukraine didn't want to participate this year for economic reasons Rolling Eyes.

    Another fun fact: Ukrainian Anastasia Prikhodko represented Russia in 2009 after being chosen by Russian viewers and jury. Last summer Anastasia Prikhodko and Ukraine 2014 Zlata Ognevich (current Radical Party MP) raised money for 72nd Guards Mechanized Brigade.
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    Post  collegeboy16 Mon May 25, 2015 2:10 pm

    whir wrote:
    Bearded weirdos, gays kissing on stage, PT Barnum would have loved it . Shame Ukraine didn't get through......Topless femen sluts with swastika armbands would have put the icing on the cake!
    In 2003 EBU prohibited T.aT.u. to kiss on stage after complains from several countries, with Ireland among them that gave the victory to Turkey in the last moment after switching to the backup jury for technical reasons.
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    yuri is cool Laughing . but yaoi, eughhh. almost as if they are against straight dudes with prohibiting lesbians getting it on on stage and condoning eughhh.
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    Post  kvs Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:19 am



    This part of the Decline of Western Society thread but in the context of Russia.

    You can see the same sort of rot as in the west in the Hollywood style plots for Russian animated movies made after 2000
    that basically destroy the original tales and substitute in them the usual cultural Trotskyist agenda. So we have the original
    key characters and their back stories trashed and replaced with new plots showing them as general meatheads and turning
    nonsense into story leading content. So some old granny becomes the real hero, some donkey accidentally offs a major
    bad guy. Supposedly this is done for fun. But the new stories are just a spew of garbage designed to foster in the minds
    of children the wrong set of values. Pushing a type of adult humour on children is brainwashing. The objective is to
    grow a generation of idiots who think that non sequitur drivel is logic and that random chance is equivalent to concerted
    action.

    Even though I liked the Doctor Who series, its premise about things always working out for the Doctor and his companions
    by basically impromptu meddling and never ending fails on the part of the bad guys is nonsense. You have to watch it
    for the vapid entertainment and not for the content. But young children do not know the difference. They are
    educated by the crap. So you have the worst sort of anti-education laying the groundwork for the mental development
    of the child.

    A related feature of this degradation seen in the west, and more than likely pushed in Russia as well, is sexual themes. It
    is particularly brazen in the west where young children are being indoctrinated that it is normal for them to be sexual even
    if they are not even close to puberty. This is not a cute little issue, this is serious. Children do not have the same mental
    development as teenagers and adults, they ingest information differently and there are pathologies with exposure to certain
    themes. It is not merely cretinous old ways that deliberately shielded children from such exposure. This was based on real
    world problems. The whole LGBTXYZ recruitment is part of the modern slide into the abyss. Countries need harsh laws
    banning the exposure of children to sexualization, sexual politics and degenerate entertainment that messes up their
    mental framework. If they want to watch the crap after puberty and a good foundational education, then that is their
    choice.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:55 pm


    Even though I liked the Doctor Who series, its premise about things always working out for the Doctor and his companions
    by basically impromptu meddling and never ending fails on the part of the bad guys is nonsense.

    To be fair, Doctor Who was a bit like Star Trek in the sense that it was programming the audience to be good little citizens by showing them boundaries and acceptable standards of conduct.

    The British Dr Who was always pretty anti gun, but Star Trek couldn't try to sell the idea of explorers going anywhere in the wild without hand guns, so they invented the Stun setting... which they never really explored or explained how it might work on humans let alone any alien they might come across.

    They were all moulding young minds towards a left leaning ideal that their respective governments and countries constantly failed to live up to... meaning they were headed for a huge disappointment when they found out the worst bad guys were their own heroes... James Bond helping ISIS terrorists burn women and children, and defending white helmets clear away the bodies of ISIS executions... The professionals helping the Israelis kill Palestinians so they could steal more of their land... Doyle and Bodie...
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    Post  Kiko Tue May 10, 2022 7:02 pm

    Le Monde: the French are sharply interested in Russian literature

    Le Monde: interest in Russian and Ukrainian authors has grown sharply in France.

    MOSCOW, May 10 - RIA Novosti. Demand for works by Russian and Ukrainian writers has jumped in French bookstores, writes Le Monde.

    “In recent weeks, all of Dostoevsky’s writings have moved from the shelves to the windows of French bookstores. The same thing happened with the works of Tolstoy, Gogol, Bulgakov, Grossman, Pushkin, as well as contemporary Russian and Ukrainian writers,” the publication says.
    As noted in the publication, booksellers talk about the keen interest of customers in this region in the context of the situation in Ukraine.

    "Readers are asking for books that will help them understand (the origins of the crisis in Ukraine . - Approx. ed.)," said Natalia Tyurina , owner of the Globe bookstore.


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    Post  GarryB Wed May 11, 2022 5:40 am

    "Readers are asking for books that will help them understand (the origins of the crisis in Ukraine . - Approx. ed.)," said Natalia Tyurina , owner of the Globe bookstore.

    Then they should be reading books about the US.... and also the last time nazism was tolerated in Europe...
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    Post  Stealthflanker Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:31 am

    So i heard that many entertainment outlets are pulling out of Russia, no more netflix etc, as well as Russian movie theatre no longer able to license western movies.

    So, no Top Gun etc in Russian theatre. Well people can pirate those but i also heard that the "movie boycott" also causing Russian movie theatre to close down which kinda suck for people working there, and apparently no local movies to plug the gap.

    However i wonder if there would be more Chinese or other country's movie got into Russian theatre.
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:58 pm

    Stealthflanker wrote:So i heard that many entertainment outlets are pulling out of Russia, no more netflix etc, as well as Russian movie theatre no longer able to license western movies.

    So, no Top Gun etc in Russian theatre. Well people can pirate those but i also heard that the "movie boycott" also causing Russian movie theatre to close down which kinda suck for people working there, and apparently no local movies to plug the gap.

    However i wonder if there would be more Chinese or other country's movie got into Russian theatre.

    Russian theatres simply play foreign moves without paying the licenses

    Plus they have their own streaming services which probably also don't need to bother with licensing fees and can just air content

    Locals could chime in on this

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    Post  Kiko Wed Dec 13, 2023 10:47 am

    Russian films are replacing Hollywood, by Olga Andreeva for VZGLYAD. 12.13.2023.

    Over the past two years, a real revolution has occurred in Russian film distribution. Foreign blockbusters, which until recently were the most popular films in Russia, have given way to Russian films. The reason for this was the state policy on the development of cinema, Western sanctions and a number of other circumstances.

    By November 2023, the total box office (grossings) of Russian cinemas amounted to 35 billion rubles. The Ministry of Culture, however, believes that by the end of December it will be possible to earn all 40 billion, since there are several significant premieres ahead. The last figure is extremely important for Russian cinema owners. This is where their break-even existence begins. If there is no 40 billion, cinemas are losing money. In the “fat” year of 2019, the total box office of Russian cinemas amounted to an enviable 55.5 billion rubles. But after pandemic restrictions and sanctions, 40 billion is already a victory.

    However, the good news is not even that the box office is showing a confident trend of returning to pre-pandemic levels. The biggest achievement of the year was something else: the bulk of the income - 25.1 billion rubles - came from the distribution of Russian-made films.

    Back in the 2000s, all domestic distribution was strictly focused on Western content. Hollywood and Europe supplied the Russian market with an inexhaustible stream of blockbusters, in comparison with which the production of domestic cinema was clearly inferior. Thus, the decade of the 2000s brought viewers only two Russian blockbusters: “Night Watch” (449.6 million rubles) and “Day Watch” (888 million rubles) - their box office receipts were close to those of Hollywood blockbusters. In 2011, the Profcinema portal bitterly admitted the sad fact: Russian audiences prefer to watch Western films.

    However, at the turn of the decade, events occurred that radically changed the prospects for Russian cinema. At the end of 2009, the activities of the Cinema Fund, which formally existed since 1995, but eked out an inconspicuous life on the outskirts of the Russian film process, were sharply updated. The government decree approved a new version of the foundation's charter and a new range of its tasks.

    From that moment on, the Cinema Fund became one of the key state sponsors of film production. Until 2010, the amount of support for the film process varied within 2.45 billion rubles. In 2010, it doubled and amounted to more than 4.9 billion rubles. Throughout the past decade, the volume of investments in cinema has grown steadily, reaching almost 9 billion rubles by 2018. This was immediately reflected in the movie poster.

    From 2010 to 2020, ten Russian blockbusters were filmed, whose box office grosses exceeded 1.5 billion rubles. Three Russian films confidently entered the top 10 of the Russian box office of the decade, and two of them – “Slave” and “Moving Up” – topped the rating, receiving box office 3.178 and 3 billion rubles, respectively.

    But even this success did not lead to a significant increase in the share of Russian cinema at the box office. Back in 2011, the then Minister of Culture Alexander Avdeev, not without bitterness, stated that the share of American cinema in our box office remained between 75-80%. In ten years the situation has not changed significantly. The share of Russian film products has fluctuated between 14% and 28% over the course of ten years, amounting to only 22.8% in 2020. Russian cinema needed, as they say, time to accelerate.

    However, the trend has already formed. Perhaps not as quickly as we would like, but the growth in the number of Russian releases on the playbill continued confidently. “The share of domestic films at the box office increased from 14% to 30%, this was done in ten years, as they say in the film industry, in three filming cycles, on average about three years,” Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin proudly noted in December 2021. But this 30% was still far less than half of the rental content.

    By the beginning of the SVO, “our film industry turned out to be extremely vulnerable to the coordinated policies of US and European studios,” says film critic and jury member of international film festivals Daria Mitina. The sanctions that began, among other things, hit our cinemas hard, which, after a victorious 2019, have already suffered one blow during the pandemic. In the spring of 2022, the five largest Hollywood film studios (Universal, Warner Bros., Disney, Sony and Paramount) expectedly left the Russian film market. This brought the Russian box office almost to the brink of disaster. The overall market decline after the departure of Hollywood content was 42% compared to 2021. Film box office receipts fell by 17.1 billion rubles to 23.7 billion rubles. From April to September 2022, cinema attendance in Russia fell by 70%, and 166 cinemas announced closure.

    However, it was in the difficult year of 2022 that distributors first realized that only Russian film products could really compensate for the loss of Hollywood.

    In its 2022 report, the Cinema Fund recorded an increase in the share of domestic films in the total box office to 52.1%, or up to 12.3 billion rubles in absolute values. Thus, for the first time, Russian films collected more than half of the total box office.

    In May of this year, the chairman of the Association of Cinema Owners, Alexey Voronkov, expressed hope for the success of Russian cinema. “The association believes and hopes,” he said, “that the unprecedented financial support of film producers from the state will bear fruit by 2025-2026 - and Russian content for cinemas will be able to provide a turnover of 40 billion rubles per year, which is the break-even point.”

    This support over the last two or three years has really looked phenomenal. From 2011 to 2020, the number of films whose production was supported by the state ranged from 79 to 38 titles. However, in that very disastrous year for distribution, 2022, a colossal foundation for the future was made - with the support of the state, 406 national films were put into production. The total volume of state support for film production at the end of 2022 amounted to a record 14.9 billion rubles. The Internet Development Institute (ANO IRI), which on a competitive basis distributes government subsidies for the creation of creative digital projects of various formats, including film works, has also become a serious source of funding for film producers.

    As a result of all these unprecedented efforts, already in May 2023, the box office of Russian films exceeded the annual figures for the last eight years, said Minister of Culture Olga Lyubimova. Overall, in 2023, the share of Russian cinema in the total market has already  reached a record 70%.

    Director of the Cinema Fund Fyodor Sosnov proudly stated at the St. Petersburg International Cultural Forum: “When we say that the fuel for the development of national film distribution, the fuel for the development of national film distribution is Hollywood or major releases, then here is an interesting illustration of what “Can national distribution survive and does this affect its volumes?”

    This year, the top lines of the ratings were occupied by two real film masterpieces, which confidently surpassed the American blockbuster “Avatar: The Way of Water” (its box office is 1.2 billion rubles). “Two big Russian films made it to the box office,” says Mitina. – These are the sensationally shot “Cheburashka” and “Challenge”. "Cheburashka" was very expensive to produce - 850 million rubles. And according to recent data, he brought in more than 8 billion rubles. It paid for itself tenfold. This became a record in the entire history of post-Soviet box office. This success can only mean that people want good family movies, and there are few such films.

    The second highest-grossing film is “Defiance.” It cost about a billion and grossed approximately 2.5 billion at the box office. Whatever its artistic merits, it is already written in history in golden letters. This is actually the world’s first experience of space filming.”

    But the year is not over yet. Five weeks ago, the Russian film “At the Pike’s Command” was released. By the end of November, its box office totaled 2.232 billion rubles, and there is every chance that by the end of the year it will overtake “Challenge”.

    By the way, Russian viewers were not left without Western content. The cinemas were helped by the trademark Western hypocrisy. Huge holes very quickly appeared in the harsh sanctions policies of American and European studios, through which a wide stream of new cinema, as usual, flowed into Russia. As a result, both European and even American cinema remained in Russia. For example, based on the results of the first nine months of 2023, three foreign films entered the top 10: the American “John Wick 4”, the French cartoon “Lady Bug and Cat Noir: The Force Awakens” and the British film “Operation Fortune: The Art of Victory”.

    “All these terrible boycotts from the West failed,” says Daria Mitina. – Hollywood hasn’t gone away. After the start of the SVO, Europe also actively built a goat’s face and did not sell us anything, but now all our distributors have purchased Cannes, Venice, and Berlin laureates. Everything is shown perfectly. The West is not its own enemy; it will not shoot itself in the foot. The Russian market for Western cinema is too attractive to refuse. The hypocritical new ethics is relevant only as long as it does not interfere with the economy. As soon as economic interest comes into play, then all this hypocrisy like cancel culture disappears. Economic profit is always primary.”

    However, we can already say that distributors have drawn conclusions from the collapse of 2022, which put the industry on the brink of survival. “We don’t expect Hollywood to return,” said Olga Zinyakova, president of the Karo cinema chain, in June of this year. “In addition, it is clear that it is unacceptable to be so dependent on one supplier that with one decision he could destroy the entire business.”

    According to Zinyakova, the new “distribution foundation and box office driver” will be Russian cinema, for which all marketing strategies for film promotion are urgently changing. “Foreign films are present at the box office, but we must build marketing, allocate funds, space and budgets with an eye to our cinema,” she believes. For the stable existence of the industry, according to the expert’s calculations, “every month there should be one picture released that will collect more than 1 billion rubles based on rental results, plus two major films (with a box office of at least 500 million) and three or four middling films (200–300 million each). )".

    In this matter, stable frequency is very important; the success of one “Cheburashka” did not allow the industry to collapse, but is not a guarantee of the future. The state understands this, as evidenced by the growing amounts of state support and the total number of films being put into production.

    And the viewer, who has already confirmed that he is quite ready to watch Russian, should closely monitor the releases. Next year, high-profile premieres are expected: a new film adaptation of “The Alpine Ballad” by Vasily Bykov, a third film about Major Thunder, the military drama “Litvyak” and the new “The Master and Margarita” from the creator of “Silver Skates” Mikhail Lokshin.

    https://vz.ru/culture/2023/12/13/1242351.html

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    Post  Firebird Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:10 am

    Hollywood is one of the most insidious aspects of American imperialism.
    Its laden with imperialist culture, brainwashing, sexual degeneracy and the grooming of children. Most of all, it gives a hugely distorted view both of American and the rest of the World. There are vastly more poor Americans than wealthy ones, but all too often non-Americans fall for the propaganda.

    The Russian World is easily large enough to have a thriving domestic film industry.
    And could do much more again in joint ventures and similar with other regions.

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