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Russian monuments
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Work has begun on the restoration of the famous Be-6 seaplane monument, installed in 1968 on the Bolshoy Gryazny Island in the Kola Bay near Safonovo. Since the aircraft is completely dilapidated and rusted, the restoration will be carried out on the spot, for which a covered hangar-workshop has been built around the monument on the island.
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- Post n°102
Re: Russian monuments
Plan for K-3 submarine museum in Kronstadt:
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George1- Posts : 18461
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- Post n°103
Re: Russian monuments
Aviators of the Northern Fleet handed over to the relatives the remains of the pilot who died in the defense of the Kola West
In the garrison of the Northern Fleet in Safonovo, on the territory of the Air Force Museum of the Northern Fleet, a ceremony was held to hand over to the relatives the remains of pilot - Lieutenant Mikhail Galunov (born in 1910), who died in October 1941 during the defense of the Soviet Arctic during the Great Patriotic War.
The I-153-M62 fighter with the remains of the pilot, his clothes and personal belongings were found by the search engines of the Northern Fleet. The remains of the pilot and the combat vehicle lay in the ground at a depth of 15 meters for almost 80 years.
A memorial sign with the emblem of the Northern Fleet was erected at the spot where the Soviet fighter was found.
In the garrison of the Northern Fleet in Safonovo, on the territory of the Air Force Museum of the Northern Fleet, a ceremony was held to hand over to the relatives the remains of pilot - Lieutenant Mikhail Galunov (born in 1910), who died in October 1941 during the defense of the Soviet Arctic during the Great Patriotic War.
The I-153-M62 fighter with the remains of the pilot, his clothes and personal belongings were found by the search engines of the Northern Fleet. The remains of the pilot and the combat vehicle lay in the ground at a depth of 15 meters for almost 80 years.
A memorial sign with the emblem of the Northern Fleet was erected at the spot where the Soviet fighter was found.
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Re: Russian monuments
Opening of the monument to the Shlisselburg landing in the Leningrad region
A memorial complex dedicated to the ski landing was opened in the Leningrad Region.
Here, in the area of the village of Sinyavino near the former village of Lipki, in November 1941, one of the first attempts to break the blockade of Leningrad was made. One of the episodes of this attempt was the landing of a Soviet tactical landing near Shlisselburg, which became known as the Shlisselburg landing.
The operation was carried out by soldiers of the Leningrad militia, marines skiers, hydrographers of the Baltic Fleet, members of the Military Council of the Leningrad Front.
Major Vasily Margelov, the future legendary commander of the Airborne Forces, at that time the commander of the 1st special separate ski regiment of coastal defense sailors of the Red Banner Baltic Fleet, was among those who crossed Ladoga and stormed the German positions on skis with a throw of 20 km across the ice and stormed the German positions.
Almost the entire command staff of the regiment was killed during the breakthrough of the enemy's defenses, the commander of the regiment himself was wounded. In total, in that battle, out of more than 900 people who participated in the Shlisselburg landing, 202 fighters returned healthy, 47 wounded. 50 were missing.
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- Post n°105
Re: Russian monuments
Opening ceremony of the monument to Marshal of the Soviet Union Alexander Vasilevsky
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Re: Russian monuments
New historical complex to become symbol of Russia's special op struggle — governor
Mikhail Razvozhayev explained that the conflict in which Russia has been drawn is proceeding not only on the front
SEVASTOPOL, July 23. /TASS/. The Chersonesos Tavrichesky historical and archaeological complex, which is being prepared for opening in Sevastopol, will become a symbol of Russia's steadfastness and faith in the country's future, Governor Mikhail Razvozhayev believes.
Earlier TASS reported that the complex will open to the public in late July. In addition to the vast park territory, the first Orthodox church-park and several museums have been established there, including ones on Christianity, Crimea and Novorossiya, Antiquity and Byzantium.
"The guys who will be coming back from the battlefield <...> will be able to visit the park with their families, to see what they fought and are fighting for. And that's how we feel about it, too. I think this is its main purpose - to encapsulate the steadfastness and resilience of the country and its bright future," the governor said.
He explained that the conflict in which Russia has been drawn is proceeding not only on the front.
"The major work is done, of course, by the guys on the battlefront. But the war is hybrid, and the most important thing that [Russia's opponents] are striking at is our values, our future, the permission for Russia to be Russia. In this regard, the president's decision seems absolutely understandable to me - this is such a power place for our entire country," Razvozhayev emphasized.
The park
Chersonesos was founded as a Greek colony in 424-421 B.C. It is believed that Prince Vladimir, who later baptized Russia, converted to Christianity there in the 10th century. The museum has been operating for more than a century, but the creation of a historical and archaeological park near it was launched only a few years ago.
According to the My History Foundation, which oversees the creation of the park, the total area of the territory is 22.4 hectares, with the total area of the buildings of the complex being 144,000 square meters, and the area of artistic facades being about 70,000 square meters. The area of landscaping is 170,000 square meters.
More than 100 kilometers of engineering communications were established for the complex.
Earlier, Metropolitan Tikhon of Simferopol and Crimea reported that the consecration of the historical and archaeological park will be held on July 28 in a closed to public mode. Since July 30, it will open its doors for visitors. However, it will be possible to get inside by online pre-registration only.
https://tass.com/society/1820389
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Firebird- Posts : 1783
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- Post n°107
Re: Russian monuments
KiloGolf wrote:
Stalin won nothing.
The Allies together fought and won the war. In fact when Stalin was polishing Hitler's Maschinengewehr and supplying him with raw materials and minerals (for over a good year in WW2), it was down to countries like the UK, Canada, Australia/New Zealand, Greece, Yugoslavia and so on to try fight back that maniac and his axis allies.
Communists were infamous in sitting out the war at the very crucial beginning and appeasing Hitler at the start. They will always be remembered for that. Stalin is no exception.
Absolute garbage.
Neville Chamberlain of England and the French were amongst many who avoided war in 1938. But the NATO gutter press never dares to call them Hitler's friends.
Stalin avoided the war at the start because it made sense in his long term aim of Russian and Soviet survival.
The USSR lost between 27 and THIRTY EIGHT MILLION people in WW2.
Completely and utterly dwarfing any losses of the Western powers.
Without Russia, Britain, France, the USA and YOU would be speaking German even today and completely subservient to Nazism.
The USA only joined in after Hitler was nearly finished to see that W Europe fell into American hegemony. The hegemony it is still under.
It is simply gutter journalism to suggest Nazism being defeated was not the result of the Soviets.
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- Post n°108
Re: Russian monuments
Hitler was respected in the west in many places at the time and when Germany invaded the Soviet Union there were a lot of voices who said lend lease should not be extended to help the Soviets like it was helping the British.
Europe had essentially fallen to the Germans already by that time.
Oliver Stone has an excellent series of documentaries on the second world war where he points out that Stalin actually approached the Polish and the British about defence agreements and both rejected talks. The British sent a rather low level official and essentially told the Soviets to talk to the Polish about it and the Polish told them to get stuffed... they didn't trust the Soviets and actually preferred to trust the Germans instead.
The Polish continuing their tradition that when Germany seized European countries Poland took lands quietly too... but playing the victim card when the Germans attacked and then the Soviets also took back territory the Poles had stolen after 1917 Russian revolution.
The Americans didn't lift a finger to fight Germany or Japan until they were attacked at Pearl Harbour in December 1941... up until then they sold material to the UK and then the Soviets under the lend lease programme... but didn't actually join the war.... despite joining the trade embargo that caused Japan to expand to get the resources it needed to survive. In many ways the US and UK were responsible for the Pacific War, and it was their behaviour and treatment of Germany after WWI which made WWII inevitable. They essentially repeated what they always did... WWI led to the Germans being demonised and blamed for everything despite Germany being no more responsible for the conflict than any other European country of the time. They repeated the mistake after WWII where their former allies, the Soviets, became their enemy and to blame for everything because the west never does anything wrong or bad.
The result was a cold war of violence and waste and stupidity... and now they are repeating everything all over again... everything was the Soviets fault and they are as bad as the Nazis... well if that is true why did WWII stop with the job half done and why did the west send weapons and equipment to the Soviets?
The reality is that if you change every ingredient except one and every time there is a failure then the common factor is probably the problem... in this case it is the west.
Europe had essentially fallen to the Germans already by that time.
Oliver Stone has an excellent series of documentaries on the second world war where he points out that Stalin actually approached the Polish and the British about defence agreements and both rejected talks. The British sent a rather low level official and essentially told the Soviets to talk to the Polish about it and the Polish told them to get stuffed... they didn't trust the Soviets and actually preferred to trust the Germans instead.
The Polish continuing their tradition that when Germany seized European countries Poland took lands quietly too... but playing the victim card when the Germans attacked and then the Soviets also took back territory the Poles had stolen after 1917 Russian revolution.
The Americans didn't lift a finger to fight Germany or Japan until they were attacked at Pearl Harbour in December 1941... up until then they sold material to the UK and then the Soviets under the lend lease programme... but didn't actually join the war.... despite joining the trade embargo that caused Japan to expand to get the resources it needed to survive. In many ways the US and UK were responsible for the Pacific War, and it was their behaviour and treatment of Germany after WWI which made WWII inevitable. They essentially repeated what they always did... WWI led to the Germans being demonised and blamed for everything despite Germany being no more responsible for the conflict than any other European country of the time. They repeated the mistake after WWII where their former allies, the Soviets, became their enemy and to blame for everything because the west never does anything wrong or bad.
The result was a cold war of violence and waste and stupidity... and now they are repeating everything all over again... everything was the Soviets fault and they are as bad as the Nazis... well if that is true why did WWII stop with the job half done and why did the west send weapons and equipment to the Soviets?
The reality is that if you change every ingredient except one and every time there is a failure then the common factor is probably the problem... in this case it is the west.
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- Post n°109
Re: Russian monuments
After all of Ukraine has been liberated, monuments to those who have been killed and assassinated by the NAZI regime in Ukraine should be erected all over the new Russian oblast. Also, Gigantic monuments/ statues of Stalin should be erected on Demolished cemeteries of the NAZI AFU.
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Re: Russian monuments
The cemetaries should not be destroyed or removed... the Russians are not Nazis.
But it should be made clear who the bad guys were fighting for and make it clear who the innocent victims actually were and the evil acts of Kiev remembered.
Equally all Bandera statues should remain but with plaques and information about what a monster he was and the death and destruction he created when he was alive and the death and destruction done in his name since his death.
Don't hide history... don't tear down statues.... use them to show what happened and why.
In the west many local government officials will want to use such things to preach but over time more sensible people will return to being sensible and respectful of the past and more suitable information can be shown.
In the west statues are torn down because the person was a slave owner or didn't do enough to stop slavery, but in those times rich people had slaves because they didn't have washing machines or cars or tractors and there was a lot of physical work to be done to survive.
There was no Uber Eats.
They have a statue to remember them, well add about the slaves and the negative stuff because that is important too.
Nobody is squeaky clean and only having statues for people who never made a mistake and never did anything wrong would result in no statues at all.
But it should be made clear who the bad guys were fighting for and make it clear who the innocent victims actually were and the evil acts of Kiev remembered.
Equally all Bandera statues should remain but with plaques and information about what a monster he was and the death and destruction he created when he was alive and the death and destruction done in his name since his death.
Don't hide history... don't tear down statues.... use them to show what happened and why.
In the west many local government officials will want to use such things to preach but over time more sensible people will return to being sensible and respectful of the past and more suitable information can be shown.
In the west statues are torn down because the person was a slave owner or didn't do enough to stop slavery, but in those times rich people had slaves because they didn't have washing machines or cars or tractors and there was a lot of physical work to be done to survive.
There was no Uber Eats.
They have a statue to remember them, well add about the slaves and the negative stuff because that is important too.
Nobody is squeaky clean and only having statues for people who never made a mistake and never did anything wrong would result in no statues at all.
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Re: Russian monuments
Raise Lvov to ashes, and build a 1000 foot tall version of the Motherland.
Except instead of Rodina raising her sword calling people to arms, the monument should have the sword with it's point in the ground, thro the bodies of a mass of filthy Banderites.
In other words saying "You have been destroyed, and this time it is FINAL".
OK maybe Lvov can be taken over like Kaliningrad was, but certainly there needs to be a Rodina statue as described above.
My other question is what should be built near the Motherland statue in Kiev, given the current one has been desecrated with the Banderite crest on the shield.
Except instead of Rodina raising her sword calling people to arms, the monument should have the sword with it's point in the ground, thro the bodies of a mass of filthy Banderites.
In other words saying "You have been destroyed, and this time it is FINAL".
OK maybe Lvov can be taken over like Kaliningrad was, but certainly there needs to be a Rodina statue as described above.
My other question is what should be built near the Motherland statue in Kiev, given the current one has been desecrated with the Banderite crest on the shield.
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- Post n°112
Re: Russian monuments
GarryB wrote:The cemetaries should not be destroyed or removed... the Russians are not Nazis.
But it should be made clear who the bad guys were fighting for and make it clear who the innocent victims actually were and the evil acts of Kiev remembered.
Equally all Bandera statues should remain but with plaques and information about what a monster he was and the death and destruction he created when he was alive and the death and destruction done in his name since his death.
Don't hide history... don't tear down statues.... use them to show what happened and why.
In the west many local government officials will want to use such things to preach but over time more sensible people will return to being sensible and respectful of the past and more suitable information can be shown.
In the west statues are torn down because the person was a slave owner or didn't do enough to stop slavery, but in those times rich people had slaves because they didn't have washing machines or cars or tractors and there was a lot of physical work to be done to survive.
There was no Uber Eats.
They have a statue to remember them, well add about the slaves and the negative stuff because that is important too.
Nobody is squeaky clean and only having statues for people who never made a mistake and never did anything wrong would result in no statues at all.
Garry, statues of Hitler were all demolished. Are you saying the "Ukrainian" Hitler should remain?
This isn't politically correct faggotry we are talking about. This is scum that attempted to exterminate the whole Russian people. And a piece of shit that is used as a rallying point for a 2nd attempt at that.
I think perhaps the deformed body of Bandera should be part of a monumental ensemble at the base of the Motherland's feet in any new statue. Alternatively a statue of the hanging/executed bodies of Yarosh, Biletski, Syhk and similar Banderites.
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Re: Russian monuments
GarryB wrote:Don't hide history... don't tear down statues.... use them to show what happened and why.
If we want to teach history then the statues should be relocated to a history museum instead.
The function of statues in public places is mostly to commemorate the one being erected on that.
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Re: Russian monuments
Statues are for the people to remember, and these people need to remember what sort of life Bandera brought them... death and destruction for everyone on both sides. Bandera is war... Bandera is the west.
Bandera is continued suffering... even if he had succeeded in his plans he would never be satisfied and a new enemy would need to be extinguished and destroyed... his future was a future of forever wars, but only for his people and even then really only a select few would enjoy the comfortable life... Sounds like westerners... or Israelis... or a number of histories crazy nutters from Austria and Japan...
Do you think Hitler should be forgotten?
Perhaps if Bandera and his crimes had not been forgotten he could not have been resurrected by his followers by talking about what he did they thought was good.
Westerners are the same... when Saddam was killed and Gadaffi was killed and you pointed out all the reasons for doing that were bullshit and easily proven wrong... the most common response was... OK... so they were not guilty of what they were accused of but they were bad men any way and those regions are better off without them.
The irony of course is that many of the illegal immigrants coming from Africa now come through Libya because it went from being one of the best places in Africa to live to one of its worst shtholes... the west did that.
Destroying peoples lives because he talked about a new African currency to replace the US dollar.
Saddams crime was in the late 1980s when he started invading the countries the west created in the middle east without their permission... the middle east works because the west created countries based on known oil reserves... they don't want anyone uniting them... that would give them too much power in negotiations for oil prices. OPEC is bad enough.
@higurashihougi
Good idea... at every enormous cemetery with all those Ukrainian soldiers buried you can move the statues there for a hall of shame so to go in and to leave you need to walk past the graves of all the people who died for these stupid ideas.
If you bury the past you risk forgetting and repeating.
Investigate the money links from the west and name the people who funded this conflict and include the people who ended up owning lots of Ukrainian land and resources in payment for their loans and interference.
Lets stop mincing words, this was a coup that has led to a civil war that was essentially Ukrainian vs Ukrainian instigated and encouraged by the west with the clearly stated interest to damage Russia and secure the 12 trillion in resources they estimated to be on Ukrainian territory... not just secure it for themselves, but also deny it to Russia... like Russia invaded to steal such resources.... When they can't hide their evil they say it is not evil because all big countries do this... Russia and China do this too.
Except they don't.
The great lie of the west.
Bandera is continued suffering... even if he had succeeded in his plans he would never be satisfied and a new enemy would need to be extinguished and destroyed... his future was a future of forever wars, but only for his people and even then really only a select few would enjoy the comfortable life... Sounds like westerners... or Israelis... or a number of histories crazy nutters from Austria and Japan...
Do you think Hitler should be forgotten?
Perhaps if Bandera and his crimes had not been forgotten he could not have been resurrected by his followers by talking about what he did they thought was good.
Westerners are the same... when Saddam was killed and Gadaffi was killed and you pointed out all the reasons for doing that were bullshit and easily proven wrong... the most common response was... OK... so they were not guilty of what they were accused of but they were bad men any way and those regions are better off without them.
The irony of course is that many of the illegal immigrants coming from Africa now come through Libya because it went from being one of the best places in Africa to live to one of its worst shtholes... the west did that.
Destroying peoples lives because he talked about a new African currency to replace the US dollar.
Saddams crime was in the late 1980s when he started invading the countries the west created in the middle east without their permission... the middle east works because the west created countries based on known oil reserves... they don't want anyone uniting them... that would give them too much power in negotiations for oil prices. OPEC is bad enough.
@higurashihougi
Good idea... at every enormous cemetery with all those Ukrainian soldiers buried you can move the statues there for a hall of shame so to go in and to leave you need to walk past the graves of all the people who died for these stupid ideas.
If you bury the past you risk forgetting and repeating.
Investigate the money links from the west and name the people who funded this conflict and include the people who ended up owning lots of Ukrainian land and resources in payment for their loans and interference.
Lets stop mincing words, this was a coup that has led to a civil war that was essentially Ukrainian vs Ukrainian instigated and encouraged by the west with the clearly stated interest to damage Russia and secure the 12 trillion in resources they estimated to be on Ukrainian territory... not just secure it for themselves, but also deny it to Russia... like Russia invaded to steal such resources.... When they can't hide their evil they say it is not evil because all big countries do this... Russia and China do this too.
Except they don't.
The great lie of the west.
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