Russia Defence Forum

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


+27
Yugo90
IPCR_quad
lyle6
KoTeMoRe
The-thing-next-door
PapaDragon
Isos
Hole
magnumcromagnon
Tsavo Lion
Hannibal Barca
Odin of Ossetia
yavar
franco
Werewolf
JohninMK
Book.
max steel
George1
Cyberspec
GarryB
collegeboy16
Sujoy
SOC
Russian Patriot
milky_candy_sugar
Admin
31 posters

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    PapaDragon
    PapaDragon


    Posts : 13438
    Points : 13478
    Join date : 2015-04-26
    Location : Fort Evil, Serbia

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  PapaDragon Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:19 pm

    Isos wrote:
    One Canadian company already copied Tigr-M several years ago down to cammo canvas interior (this wasn't even intentional design choice on original lol1 )

    Coukd you share the name of the vehicle or company or an article about that, please ?

    Here:

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t2469p275-infantry-mobility-vehicles#233585



    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 5844969_original
    magnumcromagnon
    magnumcromagnon


    Posts : 8138
    Points : 8273
    Join date : 2013-12-05
    Location : Pindos ave., Pindosville, Pindosylvania, Pindostan

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:54 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    One Canadian company already copied Tigr-M several years ago down to cammo canvas interior (this wasn't even intentional design choice on original lol1 )

    Coukd you share the name of the vehicle or company or an article about that, please ?

    Here:

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t2469p275-infantry-mobility-vehicles#233585



    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 5844969_original

    Isn't that from a joint venture with the UAE? The UAE has collaborated with Russian firms before, I think I remember seeing something like that in the UAE. We also know that Russia would collaborate with a firm to 'break' in to market secretly, these measures are taken due to political restrictions. There's a reason why NATO operates their version of the Yak-130.
    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18473
    Points : 18974
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  George1 Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:36 am

    New Chinese Z-20 helicopters in service with the PLA Army Aviation (clone of the Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk)
    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 79609110
    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 79612310
    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 79614210
    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18473
    Points : 18974
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  George1 Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:13 am

    New Chinese 155-mm wheeled self-propelled howitzers PLC-181 enter service with the PLA


    The report of the military editorial office of CCTV 7 for the first time in such detail shows the new Chinese 155 mm wheeled self-propelled howitzers PLC-181 developed by Norinco Corporation. The party of new self-propelled guns entered service with the artillery brigade of the 73rd Army Group of the Eastern Zone of the PLA combat command.

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 28930410
    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 28932610
    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 79981510



    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4009022.html


    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18473
    Points : 18974
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  George1 Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:56 pm

    Chinese self-propelled ATGM HJ-10 and 122-mm howitzer on the new FAW wheeled chassis


    The original was taken from colleague dambiev in the Chinese self-propelled ATGM HJ-10 and 122-mm self-propelled guns on the new FAW wheeled chassis In the footage of the exercises of the PLA artillery units near the Line of Actual Control with India in Tibet, for the first time, the Chinese self-propelled anti-tank systems HJ-10 and 122-mm wheeled self-propelled guns were demonstrated on a new FAW car chassis.



    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4109557.html
    Sujoy
    Sujoy


    Posts : 2378
    Points : 2536
    Join date : 2012-04-02
    Location : India || भारत

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  Sujoy Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:58 pm

    Chinese amphibious armoured personnel carrier. Unique feature - allows soldiers to jump off before it starts to sink.


    Chinese amphibious armoured personnel carrier
    Hole
    Hole


    Posts : 11056
    Points : 11036
    Join date : 2018-03-24
    Age : 48
    Location : Scholzistan

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  Hole Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:51 pm

    A few weeks ago the american version sunk with 8 or 9 dead soldiers as a result.
    GarryB
    GarryB


    Posts : 40229
    Points : 40729
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Chinese amphibious armoured personnel carrier. Unique feature

    Post  GarryB Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:53 am

    Unfortunate... but it happens.

    That was flat water... they obviously didn't have the trim vane set properly or perhaps the bilge pumps were not doing their job and got swamped... but everyone sitting on top in life jackets is standard procedure because this happens...
    Sujoy
    Sujoy


    Posts : 2378
    Points : 2536
    Join date : 2012-04-02
    Location : India || भारत

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  Sujoy Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:02 pm

    China bringing in a large number of SAM systems to the India-China border. China has deployed SAMS ,Radars at Kailash Mansarovar and other Hindu , Buddhist religious sites ,just 90 kms from India

    https://twitter.com/detresfa_/status/1297454669774630912?s=20
    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18473
    Points : 18974
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  George1 Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:43 am

    The near future of the Chinese army special forces has been demonstrated

    The original is taken from colleague dambiev in The near future of the Chinese army special forces is demonstrated In the fifth season of the popular military show "Challenge the Impossible", which is broadcast on the Chinese TV channel CCTV1, the near future of the PLA army special forces is demonstrated. From new camouflage field uniforms, combat ground robotic systems with various weapons (on display for the first time) to multi-purpose Z-20 helicopters.

    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18473
    Points : 18974
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  George1 Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:49 am

    Solemn ceremony of receiving new Type 15 tanks in PLA units

    As reported, this ceremony is to obtain new "medium" (or "light"?) Chinese tanks Type 15 took place in the 32nd motorized infantry mountain brigade of the 75th Army Group South Command of the PLA's combat zone.

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 166
    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 254
    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 346
    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 435
    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 530


    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4146140.html
    JohninMK
    JohninMK


    Posts : 15502
    Points : 15643
    Join date : 2015-06-16
    Location : England

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  JohninMK Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:21 am

    Chinese CH-901 swarming drones launcher

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 EkRtwuGWkAEG5X6?format=jpg&name=360x360

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 EkRtzF5WsAAWcqh?format=jpg&name=360x360

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 EkRt39iWkAAd9dW?format=jpg&name=360x360

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 EkRt6InWkAAVteA?format=jpg&name=360x360
    The-thing-next-door
    The-thing-next-door


    Posts : 1374
    Points : 1430
    Join date : 2017-09-18
    Location : Uranus

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  The-thing-next-door Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:28 pm

    George1 wrote:Solemn ceremony of receiving new Type 15 tanks in PLA units

    As reported, this ceremony is to obtain new "medium" (or "light"?) Chinese tanks Type 15 took place in the 32nd motorized infantry mountain brigade of the 75th Army Group South Command of the PLA's combat zone.

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 166
    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 254
    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 346
    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 435
    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 530


    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4146140.html

    Why on earth would they be making light tanks, if you need a cheap tank just strip the more expensive components from your latest MBT and you will have a far superior cheap tank while also making the production of MBTs cheaper.
    Isos
    Isos


    Posts : 11534
    Points : 11502
    Join date : 2015-11-06

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  Isos Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:32 pm

    MBT suck in moutains. Light tanks are better suited. But with the increase in suicide drone use they are both getting useless.
    KoTeMoRe
    KoTeMoRe


    Posts : 4212
    Points : 4227
    Join date : 2015-04-21
    Location : Krankhaus Central.

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:00 pm

    The-thing-next-door wrote:
    George1 wrote:Solemn ceremony of receiving new Type 15 tanks in PLA units

    As reported, this ceremony is to obtain new "medium" (or "light"?) Chinese tanks Type 15 took place in the 32nd motorized infantry mountain brigade of the 75th Army Group South Command of the PLA's combat zone.

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 166
    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 254
    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 346
    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 435
    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 530


    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4146140.html

    Why on earth would they be making light tanks, if you need a cheap tank just strip the more expensive components from your latest MBT and you will have a far superior cheap tank while also making the production of MBTs cheaper.

    Because the old manufacture process of the Type 59 derived light tanks and Type 96/99 cannot be downscaled.

    This is a cheaper way to make it work.
    JohninMK
    JohninMK


    Posts : 15502
    Points : 15643
    Join date : 2015-06-16
    Location : England

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  JohninMK Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:32 pm

    More on the suicide drones in action. This is the future, drones or smart long range all weather glide bombs, both dropped in bulk.

    Video at link

    https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1316411000548216834
    Hole
    Hole


    Posts : 11056
    Points : 11036
    Join date : 2018-03-24
    Age : 48
    Location : Scholzistan

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  Hole Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:58 pm

    I had the same idea, using the ISDM and the suicide drone from Kalashnikov. There must be a chinese hiding under my couch! Very Happy
    GarryB
    GarryB


    Posts : 40229
    Points : 40729
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  GarryB Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:13 pm

    Light tanks are not cheap tanks... they just don't weigh as much.

    The Sprut tank is not about making a tank that is affordable to make in huge numbers to use with expensive normal weight tanks... it is intended for amphibious and airborne roles.

    The sensors and equipment and gun are probably as expensive as any fitted to a standard weight tank.
    The-thing-next-door
    The-thing-next-door


    Posts : 1374
    Points : 1430
    Join date : 2017-09-18
    Location : Uranus

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  The-thing-next-door Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:55 am

    GarryB wrote:Light tanks are not cheap tanks... they just don't weigh as much.

    The Sprut tank is not about making a tank that is affordable to make in huge numbers to use with expensive normal weight tanks... it is intended for amphibious and airborne roles.

    The sensors and equipment and gun are probably as expensive as any fitted to a standard weight tank.

    The Sprut is the best thing they could drop out the back of a plane, if used in place of a proper tank it would do very poorly.

    It also would not exist if they could drop proper MBTs out of thier planes like they do in computer games.
    GarryB
    GarryB


    Posts : 40229
    Points : 40729
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  GarryB Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:43 pm

    The Sprut is the best thing they could drop out the back of a plane, if used in place of a proper tank it would do very poorly.

    It also would not exist if they could drop proper MBTs out of thier planes like they do in computer games.

    The purpose of light tanks is a tank that can operate where standard full weight tanks can't go, so it would never face enemy tanks in combat unless something went terribly wrong.

    It does have a full power tank gun so it should be able to take out modern tanks, but so could missiles.

    In effect what should be happening is that this light tank will be providing direct fire fire power in situations where the enemy has no or little armour...

    For instance in an air drop without armour the paratroopers would need to land very near to their objective... which means lots of planes shot down because the airfield or HQ they are trying to attack and capture will more likely have air defence than ground defence being in the enemy rear.

    With armour the force can be dropped in the middle of no where... where the chances of enemy formations in strength will be zero... so a nice unopposed landing... climb on board your vehicles and drive at high speed for an hour to your objective and attack it with a ground force they will not be expecting or prepared for...

    Capture the airfield and start landing heavy armour and supplies and start building armoured divisions that then head from the middle of nowhere in the enemy rear to attack the enemy forces on the front line... from behind.... taking out their rear areas and HQs and comms centres on the way...

    The other use would be in soft marshy areas where you need something that floats... which HATO equivalent IFV or tank would it need to go up against that can also operate on such terrain?

    Which means whether fighting third world or first world enemies it will be direct fire HE platform destroying enemy hard points out to about 11km with 125mm HE shells.

    The main problem is gun elevation which is about 30 degrees up and down so in the mountains, these vehicles will be mobile but their gun elevation limits probably mean an artillery vehicle like a Hosta with a 120mm gun/mortar or a 2S1M with a 122mm gun probably make more sense most of the time.
    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18473
    Points : 18974
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  George1 Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:15 pm

    New multipurpose helicopters Z-20 in the 121st air assault brigade of the PLA

    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18473
    Points : 18974
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  George1 Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:47 pm

    The first official demonstration of the new Chinese 122-mm self-propelled guns on the chassis of the Dongfeng Warrior armored car

    Hole
    Hole


    Posts : 11056
    Points : 11036
    Join date : 2018-03-24
    Age : 48
    Location : Scholzistan

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  Hole Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:43 pm

    Looks close to this
    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 000265
    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18473
    Points : 18974
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  George1 Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:48 am

    New multipurpose helicopters Z-20 in the PLA 161st Airborne Assault Brigade

    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18473
    Points : 18974
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  George1 Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:33 pm

    155-mm wheeled self-propelled guns PLC-181

    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 42761910
    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 42763510

    Sponsored content


    People's Liberation Army (PLA): News - Page 4 Empty Re: People's Liberation Army (PLA): News

    Post  Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:25 am