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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:41 am

    This is not allowed, reality in figures Laughing Laughing

    Ukraine received much less military aid from Germany than Berlin claims Bild

    ▪The German government stated that Kiev received military aid in the amount of 28 billion euros - however, data, writes Bild, indicates a much smaller amount .

    ▪Bundestag deputy Goedehens said that the real amount of aid is €21.7 billion, but this figure is “exaggerated”, because it includes money promised to Ukraine until 2028.
    ▪“In reality, only €10.2 billion has been transferred to Kyiv so far,”

    - the deputy emphasized.

    http://t.me/RVvoenkor

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:48 am

    Sometimes justice can take time.

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    🇺🇦 It's reported about the elimination of the Ukrainian helicopter group MAD DUCKS and its commander.

    In 2022, this helicopter flew to Mariupol and in 2023 the group gave an interview to BILD.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:56 am

    You have to laugh at this but nodoubt some will believe the headline.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:20 am

    Now this is more like the anti-drone suggestions made here thumbsup thumbsup

    Ignore top video, that's just a normal ammo shed demolition Very Happy

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:27 am

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    🇷🇺🇺🇦 Huge hit on Chasov Yar
    Refractory plant workshops 3 and 5.

    The Ukranian radio intercepts unveiled a figure of 107 - dead in bags and “a lot of heavy injured.” Most likely there will be just as much “missing.”

    It's still burning. Ukraine cannot or do not want to extinguish. The arrival was terrible, the corpses were like after a thermobaric bomb.

    48.592252,37.833691

    The 247 and 251 Ukranian territorial defense units were there.

    There were over 400 personnel and over 50 pieces of equipment in both workshops.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:49 am

    Now this is more like the anti-drone suggestions made here

    That is a model of shotgun I was about to buy when an Aussie dickhead murdered lots of people and all the rules changed.

    You can get 25 round drums for it, but the 7 or 8 round magazines shown are pretty good too...

    Here is a remote weapon mount using a 12 gauge shotgun using a 25 round drum mag... according to this video it can also work in 7.62x39mm AK calibre.

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:49 am

    nomadski wrote:

    I like the way you think . However having more of these monsters , collecting dust on a shelf , expensive to produce and maintain , with virtually no impact on the battle or war , is a waste of resources . Either use them or loose them . Now , we don't have to target a city or military base or village . But an atmospheric televised test on the Ice Island , with the wind in the right direction , will do wonders for their health ! It will open up all those blocked sinuses . The western public , deny reality , because they don't face any risks . It is not the numbers , it is what you do with it !

    respekt

    I fully expect them to be used at some point, If they can scare the west into stupid decisions that is a bonus.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:28 pm

    So, it didn't explode. A dud.

    A drone that fell on the roof of Unit 6 of Zaporozhye NPP (ZNPP) was defused. The plant’s press service informed on April 8.

    The drone was successfully defused, preventing possible detonation of the explosive warheads it was carrying.

    No one was injured due to the drone’s fall, and no damage was done to the power unit.

    The circumstances of the incident are currently being investigated.


    Source: Rossa Primavera News Agency

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:10 pm

    Its only a matter of time but I'm pretty sure two of the arrows are not in the right place.

    The Russian Armed Forces are advancing on Chasov Yar with double strike tactics – Bild

    As journalist Julian Röpcke notes in his latest analysis of the maneuvers of the Russian army in the Chasovoyar direction, the Russian Armed Forces simultaneously launch a frontal attack from the east and from the flanks in the south and north.

    Russian troops successfully used similar tactics during the liberation of Avdeevka, Artemovsk and Novomikhailovka.

    ❗ As for the Clock of Yar, this city is of strategic importance. His release will enable the Russian Armed Forces to advance on Kramatorsk. - Ostashko reports

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:17 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Now this is more like the anti-drone suggestions made here

    That is a model of shotgun I was about to buy when an Aussie dickhead murdered lots of people and all the rules changed.

    You can get 25 round drums for it, but the 7 or 8 round magazines shown are pretty good too...

    Here is a remote weapon mount using a 12 gauge shotgun using a 25 round drum mag... according to this video it can also work in 7.62x39mm AK calibre.

    Given the cone of shot, that might be good for very close in work on a vehicle (that has some protection from falling debris) but surely a much longer barrel, like the one in my video, would be better for more general use?

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:35 pm

    JohninMK wrote:So, it didn't explode. A dud.

    A drone that fell on the roof of Unit 6 of Zaporozhye NPP (ZNPP) was defused. The plant’s press service informed on April 8.

    The drone was successfully defused, preventing possible detonation of the explosive warheads it was carrying.

    No one was injured due to the drone’s fall, and no damage was done to the power unit.

    The circumstances of the incident are currently being investigated.


    Source: Rossa Primavera News Agency

    What is the most absurd part of this whole story, is the fact that this type of weapon can't do any damage to an NPP.
    Not only it's core buildings, reator rooms etc are made to withstand a really, really nasty shit, but the whole connection grid and infrastructure is redundant an unprecedented scale.
    It was designed this way in Soviet times.
    To take it down would require a real heavy bombardment, with usage of deep penetrative weapon systems and a giant aerial devastation of the grid, transformators, substations etc.

    It is nothing more than clear terrorism with nukes in the background, set to make noise. Nothing else.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:42 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    It is nothing more than clear terrorism with nukes in the background, set to make noise. Nothing else.

    Or blackmail of the West. This is what we could do for real if you don't give in to our demands.

    One of the clear messages in this conflict is that the International Atomic Energy Agency exposes itself as it can't bring itself to broadcast who is shelling Europe's largest nuclear power plant.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:50 pm

    More confirmation from the Ukrainian side of their dire situation.

    I read elsewhere that they have now had to position 100+ emergency generators to back up the supply to the railways so that key loads can get through. This is due to their difficulty in getting the limited number of diesel locos to the right place and right time.

    The Russian Armed Forces hit 80% of power plants with drones - Ministry of Energy of Ukraine

    According to Ukrainian Energy Minister German Galushchenko, the modification of drones and missiles of the Russian Armed Forces and the increase in their power worries Ukraine, since drones cause more and more damage with each attack.

    ❗ Galushchenko recalled that serious power outages occurred in Kharkov and in the northeast of the country. This attack on energy infrastructure was the largest since the beginning of the NEA, he added.

    ✖ Western publications previously noted that the effectiveness of the strikes of the Russian Armed Forces is so great that some of the destroyed objects will not have time to be fully restored even by the winter season of 2024–2025. - Ostashko reports

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    Post  kvs Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:57 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXxaBZ01DlM

    The lunatics "running" the NATzO asylum led by Micron are trying to start a nuclear war.

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Apr 09, 2024 4:40 pm

    Summary: the Maidan Kiev regime attempted to conscript a journalist because the journalist exposed evidences of corruptions inside the regime.

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/8/7450245/

    The Prosecutor General's Office (PGO) has reported opening a criminal investigation into an incident involving military enlistment office employees who tried to serve a draft notice on a journalist of Slidstvo.info, a Ukrainian investigative journalism outlet.

    Slidstvo.Info investigative journalists found that the wife of Illia Vitiuk purchased the apartment worth over UAH 20 million (around US$516,000) at market price, even though Vitiuk stated in his tax declaration that the apartment cost UAH 12.8 million (roughly US$328,000).

    On 6 April, it was reported that after this, staff from a military enlistment office approached Yevhen Shulhat, an investigative journalist from Slidstvo.Info, and attempted to serve him with a call-up notice. The enlistment officers were allegedly accompanied by Oleksii Bilenko, who is close to Illia Vitiuk and works in the SSU cybersecurity department.

    Jointly with the General Staff, the SSU and the Ministry of Defence are looking into information published by Slidstvo.Info regarding the attempts to serve a call-up notice to one of their journalists after he published an investigation into a Security Service official.

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    Post  Hole Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:31 pm

    Its only a matter of time but I'm pretty sure two of the arrows are not in the right place.
    Bohdanivka is under russian control for two days or so.
    All of the forrest down to the micro district of Chasiv Jar east of the canal, too.
    Kalinina will follow soon.

    very close in work on a vehicle
    There were rumours that Russia plans to put the DYM-2 on some vehicle:
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:51 pm

    PhSt wrote:
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    PhSt should be temporarily banned for inciting a genocide.


    I'd be careful of this Closet NATzO Troll. You've been exposed before as a NATzO propagandist. You think posting Pro Russia content will make people forget about your past Pro NATzO Trolling? Lol Rolling Eyes


    But I cant blame the NATzO Trolls in here for their desperate attempt to have me Silenced. Blowing up essential infrastructure and supplies in Ukraine will impose HUGE COSTS on NATzO's ongoing proxy War against Russia.

    Every army needs food and water, and destroying food and water supplies in Ukraine will quadruple the PAIN and SUFFERING of the NATzO regime in Ukraine. NATzO media may portray the people of Ukraine as resilient, but people under intense suffering and starvation have a breaking point. Sooner than later, as supplies essential for life dwindle, all of Ukraine will BREAK and Russia will start steamrolling in until all of Ukraine is liberated and returned back to Russia's rightful ownership. attack



    They are "resilient" because Putin is so soft on them.



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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:09 pm

    Pervomaiskoye belongs to Russia now

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    Post  Arrow Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:12 pm

    https://vk.com/video-123538639_456307565

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:36 pm

    New stuff just recently arrived by the sound of it.

    The US Army Central Command openly tweets on X about the transfer of weapons stolen from Iran to Ukraine.

    - FRWL reports


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    That was guns, now for someone to fire them

    A batch of several hundred Mexicans and Colombians recruited in US prisons is to be thrown into Ukraine as early as this summer, the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service has announced.

    If the project with the prisoners is successful, the US will extend the recruitment to other countries to send them to the AFU.

    http://t.me/ukraine_watch

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    Destruction of 32 D-20 howitzers at the Ukrainian Armed Forces parking lot by an OTRK strike in the area of the settlement. Okhtyrka Sumy region.

    https://t.me/lost_armour/2444

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    Destruction of the P-18 radar in the Sumy region, 40 km from the state border, presumably by an X-35 missile strike.

    https://t.me/lost_armour/2447?single

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    Post  lyle6 Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:58 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    Supposedly china is producing over 1000 missiles a day

    There's some video showing a Chinese automated factory for cruise missiles

    Idk if its really 1000 a day

    But even if it's close to that it makes Russian and for that matter, anyone elses production seem very low

    https://youtu.be/RoObgUTsZ0M?si=GI_XRXz3b9OBKjys
    Cars are a more complicated tech to manufacture...

    Big doubt though. The bottleneck of noncontact warfare is the availability of launch platforms and actionable intel, not the missiles themselves.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:58 am

    Given the cone of shot, that might be good for very close in work on a vehicle (that has some protection from falling debris) but surely a much longer barrel, like the one in my video, would be better for more general use?

    The longer barrel would give better reach, which is more use when a person is swinging it around because you can hit and damage things at greater distances, so you can start shooting before they get so close their explosive might hurt you anyway, but for this sort of stationary mount it is more likely to be defending a vehicle or position, and while it probably swings round quite quickly some FPVs will get very close before you get the muzzle pointed at them... so the longer barrel would be a disadvantage.

    I have been rabbit hunting on the back of a light truck and a rabbit burst out of the bushes very close to the road we were driving down and one of the guys with a shotgun called it and casually leaned over the side and pointed the shotgun in the general direction of the rabbit and fired... and missed.

    A long barrel shotgun with a choke might spread its pellets or shot over an area the size of your hand at 5 metres... the advantage of the longer barrel is that all the buckshot will be inside a 1m circle at 20m range.... which means 12-16 ball bearings similar to a light 9mm round randomly scattered over that area... against a human sized targets and you will get some hits.

    For use against drones I would consider lighter shot like a number 3 shot which has about 120 pellets per shell so 120 small ball bearings in each shot spreading 1m across at about 20m increases your chances of multiple hits and they should still be moving fast enough to shatter propeller blades and damage plastic structures.

    The lighter pellets offer better density of shot so it is not likely to get a kill, but the heavier buckshot loads reach further, but there are fewer projectiles and you can't control where those projectiles hit within the circle of striking projectiles.

    I would probably go for a mix of number 3 shot and buckshot and fire multiple shots at each target. For use in trenches buckshot only.

    One of the clear messages in this conflict is that the International Atomic Energy Agency exposes itself as it can't bring itself to broadcast who is shelling Europe's largest nuclear power plant.

    This is at the core of the entire situation.. the IAEA is corrupt and controlled by the west and serves the western interests over human interests...

    They should all be fired.

    BRICS needs to create an alternative that is independent of any country.

    The bottleneck of noncontact warfare is the availability of launch platforms and actionable intel, not the missiles themselves.

    Having all the ammo in the world means little if you can't find targets, and with all the HATO support it seems the Orcs are not finding military targets or not reaching them, so instead they become the terrorist and hit civilian targets.

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