Russian special military operation in Ukraine #47

caveat emptor wrote:
Russia does make its own body plates, but not as much as it was needed. It is well documented by Russian sources that part of the body armour for mobilized was bought in China. 
Mental gymnastics of some people here,  whotry to deny that Russia is buying military supplies from allied countries is mind boggling. They are not much better than Guardian or some other rag in that sense. 
Russia has a simple goal, that is to win the war. And i hope that it will continue to buy anything that needs to make that goal closer. Anything else will just result in more losses for their own army.

Russia does make its own body plates, but not as much as it was needed

PhSt wrote:
If this is true, I don't see why Russia wouldn't increase its own production, especially if they have the know how and resources to do so.

Result of yesterday attack by drone in Novgorod oblast. One Tu-22M3 is destroyed.

sepheronx wrote:Because they are speculating with no real hard evidence.  About as bad as western press.

sepheronx wrote:So a few guys with supposed Iranian gear means Russia uses mostly Chinese?

The straw grasping is strong.

Result of yesterday attack by drone in Novgorod oblast. One Tu-22M3 is destroyed. wrote:

sepheronx wrote:No, because a few token examples isn't much of a basis to rely on, plus I outlined why it's stupid in last page, economically it doesn't make sense when localized production already exists and the money flows within the system, including job creation and material flow.  I'm uncertain why this is extremely hard for people to understand basic economics.

They aren't getting stuff for free. They are paying for it. So It makes no sense to import what you already make vs what you don't or are actually in short supply of because limitations on the fabrication process (semiconductors).

Arrow wrote:This shows how dangerous drones are. Russia has the largest and most modern AD system in the world. Drones, however, can sneak through even such a powerful system. You don't need sophisticated hypersonic missiles like Iskander or Cirkon. This is a big loss for Russia.

Big_Gazza wrote:

mr_hd wrote:War in any case is lost for Russia.

What an icking fudiot.

You don't need sophisticated hypersonic missiles like Iskander or Cirkon.

This is a big loss for Russia.

PhSt wrote:

Russia does make its own body plates, but not as much as it was needed

If this is true, I don't see why Russia wouldn't increase its own production, especially if they have the know how and resources to do so.

caveat emptor wrote:

sepheronx wrote:Because they are speculating with no real hard evidence.  About as bad as western press.

One example for people with cheaper seats and reading problems:
Iranian helmets and body armour, photos made by Sasha Kots

https://t.me/milinfolive/93520?single

In the Zaporozhye region, mobilized fighters also received Iranian helmets and body armor.

JohninMK wrote:
A powerful explosion occurred in the forensic center of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Kyiv, the cause of which was the detonation of ammunition. The experts cut the warhead of the R-27 rocket with a grinder and hit it with a hammer, causing it to detonate.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1693221770868736194

Russia does make its own body plates, but not as much as it was needed. It is well documented by Russian sources that part of the body armour for mobilized was bought in China. 
Mental gymnastics of some people here,  whotry to deny that Russia is buying military supplies from allied countries is mind boggling. They are not much better than Guardian or some other rag in that sense. 
Russia has a simple goal, that is to win the war. And i hope that it will continue to buy anything that needs to make that goal closer. Anything else will just result in more losses for their own army.

Arrow wrote:

This shows how dangerous drones are. Russia has the largest and most modern AD system in the world. Drones, however, can sneak through even such a powerful system. You don't need sophisticated hypersonic missiles like Iskander or Cirkon. This is a big loss for Russia.

caveat emptor wrote:

Arrow wrote:This shows how dangerous drones are. Russia has the largest and most modern AD system in the world. Drones, however, can sneak through even such a powerful system. You don't need sophisticated hypersonic missiles like Iskander or Cirkon. This is a big loss for Russia.

Maybe that will make them think harder on building some sort of shelter for planes? This was probably some sort of FPV drone with RPG warhead or quadcopter. Not much AD can do. Even REB doesn't always help.

Geez what a shitty week for Russia. I hope the 42 F-16s are convincing enough for Russia to launch an offensive once they get to Ukraine. Because I doubt Russia will enjoy having 42 of these aircrafts throw cruise missiles into Moscow which might be the final straw.