Russia and economic war by the west

Needs must. Brussels can't stop these and no doubt many more moves.

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Slovakia, Bulgaria and Moldova accepted the payment of Russian gas in rubles.

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Latvia switches to ruble payments for gas, entering into a long-term contract with Gazprom until 2030.

"The procedure for settlements in Russian rubles does not formally violate the sanctions" ##

So Gazprom fully divested itself from its daughter companies under EU jurisdiction, in particular in Germany. This now means
that the EU has to travel to Russia to sign contracts for Russian gas and these contracts are not subject to EU laws and regulations.
This includes the kangaroo arbitration courts such as the one in Stockholm that ruled in favour of Banderastan because it was poor.
(Let's see that logic applied to some pauper in any NATzO member state trying to get some free food from the local grocery store).

Russia has been playing nice with NATzO since 1990. Now the gloves are off and NATzO is not ready and not able.

I must say when I first saw that braindead German Greens "leader" Kretschmann
and then that other clown Scholtz

I knew Germany was in for a wild ride .... lol

any country that isn't fully self-sufficient that attempts to sanction one that is fully self-sufficient ..... is clearly run by complete morons

I live in AU our PM is similarly braindead .... he picked pointless fights with China just to crawl up the US's sphincter
and he destroyed complete industries overnight as a result .... Scott Moronson

we got reamed out ...... they just stopped buying whole categories ... "sanctions" without using the word "sanction"
because only the "west" do sanctions ..... only "good" people do "sanctions" .....

in our twisted minds they are "unfair trade practices" so we have raced off to the WTO ....

reminds me of George Orwell's Animal Farm
"everyone is equal ... but some are more equal than others"

kvs wrote:So Gazprom fully divested itself from its daughter companies under EU jurisdiction, in particular in Germany.    This now means
that the EU has to travel to Russia to sign contracts for Russian gas and these contracts are not subject to EU laws and regulations.
This includes the kangaroo arbitration courts such as the one in Stockholm that ruled in favour of Banderastan because it was poor.
(Let's see that logic applied to some pauper in any NATzO member state trying to get some free food from the local grocery store).

Russia has been playing nice with NATzO since 1990.   Now the gloves are off and NATzO is not ready and not able.

I can hear Bob Marley singing: No Ruble, No gas.

owais.usmani wrote:

lancelot wrote:Russia can cut gas deliveries to Europe and nuclear fuel supplies to the USA.
They can also cut all fertilizer exports to either of those countries.
As well as any strategic metals like nickel or palladium.

They can do the above but it will also hurt Russia as their export earnings go down. Finding alternative countries for these exports will take time.

lancelot wrote:
They can nationalize any foreign owned properties in Russia.

This one is good, they should go for it immediately if not done already. Basically I was looking for counter sanctions of the type like siezing financial and physical assets of US and EU, identical to the seizing of Russian foreign reserves by them.

Since the US pays in USD the loss is not that great, but for the US the loss will be much greater.

The head of the EU, to which I should inform people here: is not voted in by any democratic structure, isn't able to make much demands. They will state you cannot ban the purchase of coal but they never stated in what currency? You see, it is already blocked in the form that Euro's cannot be used, but Russia isn't accepting Euro's. So in turn, the other nations can then make purchases in Rubles to which Van der Lugen cannot do nor say anything about. Completely bypasses the sanctions.

But regardless, this will further increase prices for the EU citizens and they will be the ones covering the cost. Since wages do not meet inflation, things will get bad. Already there have been protests in Italy where pensioners are demanding lower inflation and or meeting inflation with their pensions due to ever so increasing costs to the point they cannot afford utilities at the same time as food and rent. I seem to recall some Russian's in the not so distant past love to make complaints (I understand, these are the liberals who have more money than not, living in the social media world saying this) that pensioners in Russia can barely afford anything. To which now people can point to them that its now getting worst out west.

The Russians are basically paying them twice. I would not pay. I would defer those people to the US bank accounts they froze and sue those guys and US government.

Seems to me that paying in rubles could be a good idea now that the West needs rubles to pay for gas etc. But I might be wrong

Washington is making a big fuss blocking Russian bond payments and claiming that this is default by Russia.
These clowns are utterly retarded. What does it now matter whether Russia is in default or not. It no longer
matters to Russia what western credit "rating" agencies assign to its "rating" and it is not searching for western
customers for its bonds and shares.

Russia is doing the right thing paying these clowns in rubles. Claim default, claim shit smells like roses, whatever.

kvs wrote:Washington is making a big fuss blocking Russian bond payments and claiming that this is default by Russia.  
These clowns are utterly retarded.   What does it now matter whether Russia is in default or not.   It no longer
matters to Russia what western credit "rating" agencies assign to its "rating" and it is not searching for western
customers for its bonds and shares.  

Russia is doing the right thing paying these clowns in rubles.   Claim default, claim shit smells like roses, whatever.

That's the beauty of it. Pay them in rubles ad they have, and wash your hands of the problem. They can't say they didn't pay you.

kvs wrote:Washington is making a big fuss blocking Russian bond payments and claiming that this is default by Russia.  
These clowns are utterly retarded.   What does it now matter whether Russia is in default or not.   It no longer
matters to Russia what western credit "rating" agencies assign to its "rating" and it is not searching for western
customers for its bonds and shares.  

Russia is doing the right thing paying these clowns in rubles.   Claim default, claim shit smells like roses, whatever.

Americans think they can harm Russia. Russia is economically prepared for an economic war with the entire West. Russia is unable to do anything. All that remains is to impose ridiculous sanctions.

I know it's probably not the best topic...

Rt and other Russian sites are blocked, does someone know on VPN free that works, for Android? I can't

dino00 wrote:I know it's probably not the best topic...

Rt and other Russian sites are blocked, does someone know on VPN free that works, for Android? I can't

Give this a try friend

https://www.opera.com/features/free-vpn

dino00 wrote:I know it's probably not the best topic...

Rt and other Russian sites are blocked, does someone know on VPN free that works, for Android? I can't

You can try just changing DNS servers to something like Yandex or some other "non-Collective West" servers, this is usually all you need to bypass these kind of blockages.

I still don't understand what the problem is with receiving payments in rubles for foreign holders of Russian bonds.

The problem is entirely in the western thoughts and not in the realm of reality.

Any normal and self respecting nation should be attempting the same by using local currencies.