Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 #4

Mir wrote:Yes natural is always way better than any synthetic.

I experienced the virus as a heavy cold with lots of flem[phlegm]. There is a gadget on the market which I think is called a salt pipe. It's a porcelain vessel with some coarse sea salt in it. It has a couple of small holes at the bottom and a large one at the top. You use it as an inhaler. It almost instantly clears up excessive flem. I made one from a 500ml plastic mineral water bottle but the porcelain one would be better but it worked great.

Mir wrote:That is exactly why this is a scam. If your wife shoots you because you cheated on her, it's murder. But if you happened to test positive for covid - it's a covid related death (you died of covid!). Funny thing is - despite all the BS it's still not a pandemic. The spike (if any) in deaths are still not any (or very little) higher than normal.

The media loves their fear porn!

kvs wrote: tells me that reducing the old age support burden is one of the motives.  

Vaccine Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (VAIDS): 'We should anticipate seeing this immune erosion more widely'

A Lancet study comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated people in Sweden was conducted among 1.6 million individuals over nine months. It showed that protection against symptomatic COVID-19 declined with time, such that by six months, some of the more vulnerable vaccinated groups were at greater risk than their unvaccinated peers.

Doctors are calling this phenomena in the repeatedly vaccinated “immune erosion” or “acquired immune deficiency”, accounting for elevated incidence of myocarditis and other post-vaccine illnesses that either affect them more rapidly, resulting in death, or more slowly, resulting in chronic illness.

COVID vaccines are not traditional vaccines. Rather, they cause cells to reproduce one portion of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, the spike protein. The vaccines thus induce the body to create spike proteins. A person only creates antibodies against this one limited portion (the spike protein) of the virus. This has several downstream deleterious effects.

First, these vaccines “mis-train” the immune system to recognize only a small part of the virus (the spike protein). Variants that differ, even slightly, in this protein are able to escape the narrow spectrum of antibodies created by the vaccines.

Second, the vaccines create “vaccine addicts,” meaning persons become dependent upon regular booster shots, because they have been “vaccinated” only against a tiny portion of a mutating virus. Australian Health Minister Dr. Kerry Chant has stated that COVID will be with us forever and people will “have to get used to” taking endless vaccines. “This will be a regular cycle of vaccination and revaccination.”

Third, the vaccines do not prevent infection in the nose and upper airways, and vaccinated individuals have been shown to have much higher viral loads in these regions. This leads to the vaccinated becoming “super-spreaders” as they carry extremely high viral loads.

In addition, the vaccinated become more clinically ill than the unvaccinated. Scotland reported that the infection fatality rate in the vaccinated is 3.3 times the unvaccinated, and the risk of death if hospitalized is 2.15 times the unvaccinated.

Airbornewolf wrote:living in western europe still, and still unvaccinated.

I either take sputnik V, or nothing at all.
I respect anyones decision to take an vaccine, or not.

kvs wrote:

Airbornewolf wrote:living in western europe still, and still unvaccinated.

I either take sputnik V, or nothing at all.
I respect anyones decision to take an vaccine, or not.

I have become a Sputnik V skeptic.   It is a variation on the GMO theme.  That is, it uses modified adenovirus vectors to introduce
"mRNA" into human cells to produce spike proteins.   There is zero need for GMO "vaccines".  Classical vaccines that just offer up
antigen targets (from pieces of the vaccine target virus) plus and adjuvant are sufficient.   They are also safer since the immune
system responds like it does to an actual infection.  So antibodies are produced for more than one antigen target.   But more
importantly, there is no autoimmune response induced by having chimera cells (mRNA modified cells with spike proteins protruding
from the cell walls) which trigger killer T cells.  

I am waiting for Novavax and the vaccine from Medicago.   I hope that the Canadian regime approves them and makes them available.
But I am getting more concerned that the regime will basically embargo them by cutting off their availability.   Greece and Austria
are setting the trend of affixing yellow stars to the unvaxxed and sending them to jail.   This totalitarian abuse is coming to Canada.
For all my bitching at the US, people there have more freedom than in Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the EU toilets.

I have become a Sputnik V skeptic. It is a variation on the GMO theme. That is, it uses modified adenovirus vectors to introduce
"mRNA" into human cells to produce spike proteins. There is zero need for GMO "vaccines".

GarryB wrote:

I have become a Sputnik V skeptic. It is a variation on the GMO theme. That is, it uses modified adenovirus vectors to introduce
"mRNA" into human cells to produce spike proteins. There is zero need for GMO "vaccines".

Who said that?

Sorry, I only skim the posts in this thread, but the Sputnik V was touted as being technology used and proven since the 1950s... and based on Human rather than animal material.