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    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 #2

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    Post  kvs Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:16 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Maximmmm wrote:If the dirty westerners have a vaccine with 90% efficiency, ours must be higher!
    https://lenta.ru/news/2020/11/11/prcnt/
    Sputnik V preliminary analysis of stage 3 trials shows 92% efficiency.

    How about they all STFU and start using the damn things?


    They are.

    Issue is now, they are running out. And so are trying to ramp up production but can't meet the demand.

    The Americans are having exactly the same sorts of problems. This has nothing to do with Russia's "failure" like
    will always be assumed by the peasants.

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    Post  Maximmmm Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:34 pm

    kvs wrote:
    Maximmmm wrote:If the dirty westerners have a vaccine with 90% efficiency, ours must be higher!
    https://lenta.ru/news/2020/11/11/prcnt/
    Sputnik V preliminary analysis of stage 3 trials shows 92% efficiency.

    Nothing of the sort.   These numbers are derived from trial data.   As I expected the two stage human adenovirus vaccines
    made by Russia and the USA are similar in their performance.    This US vaccine will also have more intrinsic safety like
    the Russian vaccine when compared to the abomination produced by AstraZeneca.

    Instead of focusing on a 2% difference which is not nationalist dick stroking no matter what peasants of all sorts think,
    how about focusing on the casualties of the precious Oxford vaccine which was trumpeted and which the NATzO fake
    stream media accused Russia of stealing.


    It was just a joke kvs, I figured we could use some light-heartedness lol!

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    Post  franco Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:04 am

    France moves past Russia into 4th position in total Covid cases and Italy becomes the 10th country to cross the 1,000,000 recorded cases total.
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    Post  kvs Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:30 am

    franco wrote:France moves past Russia into 4th position in total Covid cases and Italy becomes the 10th country to cross the 1,000,000 recorded cases total.

    Western health care systems can't handle this pandemic. They are designed to siphon taxpayer money and not to actually do their jobs.
    Funny how the CBC was jerking itself off about the "crisis" in Russian ERs when Russia is doing quite well compared to the "better"
    countries.

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:27 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Maximmmm wrote:If the dirty westerners have a vaccine with 90% efficiency, ours must be higher!
    https://lenta.ru/news/2020/11/11/prcnt/
    Sputnik V preliminary analysis of stage 3 trials shows 92% efficiency.

    How about they all STFU and start using the damn things?


    They are.

    Issue is now, they are running out. And so are trying to ramp up production but can't meet the demand.

    Yup. Russia can't seem to organize mass-production of the vaccine while Pfizer are claiming that they'll produce up to 50 million doses this year

    Doesn't bode well
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:45 pm

    Another close US ally refusing to swallow the propaganda:

    South Korean firm to produce 150 mln doses a year of Russian COVID-19 vaccine: RDIF
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:23 pm

    The pandemic is growing more alarming by the day. Covid-19 cases and hospitalizations are piling up at record rates, and experts fear that daily deaths may soon follow. (These charts show just how bad it is.) An influential Covid-19 model projected nearly 439,000 people could die of the virus by March 1. CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta called the crisis a "humanitarian disaster." Chicago issued a stay-at-home advisory, urging residents to leave only for essential needs and warning against Thanksgiving travel. If you are planning on visiting family, experts say you should have already started a 14-day quarantine. Dr. Anthony Fauci, too, offered advice on how to celebrate safely. Staying vigilant will be ever-important in the coming weeks -- despite encouraging vaccine data, we shouldn't expect it before the end of December at the earliest. CNN
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    Post  Vann7 Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:40 pm

    the pandemic is "growing at alarming rate" ,because the test are rigged/setup (just like 2020 elections) ,rigged to artificially inflate at ridiculous level the "Crisis" and this is to justify permanent
    lockdowns and the destruction of middle and lower class and small business.
    to make vast majority of people poor and fully dependent on a tyrannical government
    of food ,and for living.


    For those that believe this pandemic is a western [plan] for population total control
    and for reducing population too... here is more scandalous news.. by DR Rashid buttar.

    What is next by 2021 plandemic?
    next video comes from information being leak by members of the current
    liberal canadian parliament , measure taken there will be model for US and all other allied countries.

    https://79days.news/watch?id=5faf1f9ba84b9833ed9fc1ac
    https://79days.news/watch?id=5faf2070a84b9833ed9fd5f1


    -new virus in 2021.. and third wave of covid19.
    -there will be an economy reset
    -all debt forgiven in change of ,
      a) transfering all your properties to the rockefellers/rothchild and other jews Banks.
      b) cooperating with their fake vaccines programs with nasty surprises inside in some number of them.. basically allowing them to control your health and so they decide if you live or die ,also
    block you from having children .
    - concentration camps for those that do not cooperate.
    - traveling ban withing your own country.
    - a totalitarian fascist state ,people taken from their homes for whatever reason..
      (just imagine this one ,government taking your children ,or wife as sexual slaves)

    so the anglos elites.. US,UK,Canada, and maybe also australia and new zealand ,will be
    starting a massive depopulation program ,and the vaccines will make new virus more lethal in your
    body and block your capability to combat them with your natural defense inmune system.

    if any of this is happens ,it will be really dark times ahead. and if this is
    not evil.. then no idea what evilness means.. this will make hitler look like a saint in comparison
    and proof him right in hating the jews banking international system.  a very serious threat to humanity .Hard to believe any government ,police or military will allow such evil things to happen
    against all population without a major coup to overthrow a tyrannical power.

    this criminal shutdown of society and censoring of internet ,could also a green light for the military  to start nuclear wars with enemies ,including russia and china and block any civilian unrest.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:32 am

    New York ranks 10th in the world by Covid19 deaths... among countries.

    As many dead as in the entirety of Spain, or France.

    It's strange hearing Democrats say they could have done a better job than Trump. A pickle probably could, but certainly not Democrats

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    https://twitter.com/MuradGazdiev/status/1320744052267065344
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    Post  GarryB Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:24 am

    Russia will likely sign contracts with quite a few foreign countries that includes domestic production in those countries for their own and perhaps regional markets.

    Russia does not have the production capacity of the western companies, but the Russian vaccine does not have the problems of the Pfizer vaccine...

    The Russian vaccine can be kept at room temperature, while the new Pfizer vaccine needs to be stored at minus 70 degrees C... which is going to be a serious problem for a lot of countries to deal with.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/506712-covid19-vaccine-fight-west/

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    Post  AlfaT8 Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:42 pm

    GarryB wrote:Russia will likely sign contracts with quite a few foreign countries that includes domestic production in those countries for their own and perhaps regional markets.

    Russia does not have the production capacity of the western companies, but the Russian vaccine does not have the problems of the Pfizer vaccine...

    The Russian vaccine can be kept at room temperature, while the new Pfizer vaccine needs to be stored at minus 70 degrees C... which is going to be a serious problem for a lot of countries to deal with.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/506712-covid19-vaccine-fight-west/

    ???.... what would happen to someone injected with it of those temperatures??
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    Post  miketheterrible Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:51 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Maximmmm wrote:If the dirty westerners have a vaccine with 90% efficiency, ours must be higher!
    https://lenta.ru/news/2020/11/11/prcnt/
    Sputnik V preliminary analysis of stage 3 trials shows 92% efficiency.

    How about they all STFU and start using the damn things?


    They are.

    Issue is now, they are running out. And so are trying to ramp up production but can't meet the demand.

    Yup. Russia can't seem to organize mass-production of the vaccine while Pfizer are claiming that they'll produce up to 50 million doses this year

    Doesn't bode well

    Pfizer is lying.
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    Post  Hole Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:29 pm

    Russia has a deal with a south korean company which will produce up to 150 million doses a year. Just one of quite a few contracts being implemented at the moment.
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    Post  Vann7 Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:24 pm

    Hole wrote:Russia has a deal with a south korean company which will produce up to 150 million doses a year. Just one of quite a few contracts being implemented at the moment.


    Russia biggest problem is that it doesn't have a major production capability in the pharma industry ,like the west ,for being for son long having a third world economic system ,based in gas stations ,mining and agriculture . Russia economy use the same model of south africa ,and commodities based economy ,of selling energy ,agriculture and weapons.

    If russia had a strong biotech industry ,not only for local market but to export too world wide , then
    they will have the capability to produce enough vaccines for the entire world ,before americans and british do theirs. since russia vaccine will come first..but that advantage will be wasted since will reach far less countries for its very limited  industrial production capabilities and the trained professionals required to produce such vaccines.

    all those hundreds of billions of dollars that putin invested in Russia for hosting olympics and promoting sports ,and promoting economic diversification with tourism will go down the toilet like every other economic idea he developed for the country. Since now with the fear of the virus or any
    other one.. including the possibility of Russian enemies use biological weapons ,virus attacks of nato on russia , using tourist as weapons, will completely destroy Putin's vision of russia as a tourist destination.it also damage forever oil prices ,since people will travel less.  
    Now europe is offering russia to host the european footbal olympics and Russia is not enthusiastic anymore to do such events..  Laughing  for fear of a new pandemic wave or some other viruses.


    in other news..
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    more evidence covid19 is not a "chinese virus" as trump claimed..
    Europe found new evidence the virus was already killing people in italy way earlier that chinese people began to die in wuhan.

    https://www.rt.com/news/506796-coronavirus-italy-blood-september/

    likely it began in US and was mislabeled as "influenza" virus by western doctors.


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    Post  flamming_python Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:34 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Maximmmm wrote:If the dirty westerners have a vaccine with 90% efficiency, ours must be higher!
    https://lenta.ru/news/2020/11/11/prcnt/
    Sputnik V preliminary analysis of stage 3 trials shows 92% efficiency.

    How about they all STFU and start using the damn things?


    They are.

    Issue is now, they are running out. And so are trying to ramp up production but can't meet the demand.

    Yup. Russia can't seem to organize mass-production of the vaccine while Pfizer are claiming that they'll produce up to 50 million doses this year

    Doesn't bode well

    Pfizer is lying.

    Could be

    In any case no-one has millions of doses ready to ship for the time being, not Pfizer, not Russia
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    Post  kvs Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:43 pm



    The race to claim 100% effectiveness is in full swing...

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    Post  par far Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:56 pm

    kvs wrote:

    The race to claim 100% effectiveness is in full swing...



    Are they 100% safe? That should be the big question.

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    Post  par far Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:57 pm

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:02 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avwl2iddVm8


    Pandemic to claim the lives of at least 600,000 Russians
     https://www.pravdareport.com/
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    Post  kvs Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:04 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avwl2iddVm8


    Pandemic to claim the lives of at least 600,000 Russians
     https://www.pravdareport.com/

    Hysterical BS. The current death toll in the USA is 257,713 and in Russia it is 34,850. Unlike the USA Russia has not
    been engaging full lockdowns so in principle more people are exposed and their is no untouched population that is
    going to die off on a delayed schedule compared to the USA.

    Russian deaths are now at about 450 per day. They are about 1,500 in the USA. Suppose Russian deaths hit
    1,500 per day. That would require 377 days to reach 600,000 total deaths. We have seen that Covid-19
    peaks do not last such long periods. Let us assume that the winter peak will last a solid 3 months or 90
    days. Russian deaths would then have to average about 6,000 per day during this period to reach such a
    total death count.

    The US situation gives some guidance about Russia will face this winter. The US has over 160,000 new cases
    per day yet its daily deaths are 1,500. This is less than when the USA saw 30,000 new cases daily during
    its initial peak.

    Clearly there is a saturation effect and if a country the size of the USA is not seeing even 3,000 deaths per day
    what is the basis that Russia will be seeing 6,000 per day with half the population? Based on US figures, the
    maximum daily deaths in Russia will remain under 1,500. And with the saturation effect are likely not to exceed
    1,000 by much. So the total deaths in Russia after this winter are not likely to exceed 90,000 on top of the
    current value.

    And any claim that there is not going to be any attenuation of the new cases and deaths by the winter if 2021/22
    is BS.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:35 pm

    An exclusive video of #SputnikV vaccine arriving in Hungary, the first EU country to receive the Russian vaccine

    https://twitter.com/sputnikvaccine/status/1329479137174704128
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    Post  par far Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:28 am

    How do you guys see the world when the pandemic(whenever that is) is over?

    What changes do you envision?

    How will the world order be different?

    How do you envision the lives of people will change?

    Will there be more chaos and wars or will there be peace?

    Will the economics shift from the west to the east?

    Who will be the superpowers?

    What will happen to globalization?

    What will happens to all the refugees and immigrants in Europe?

    What future conflicts do you think will happen?

    How do you envision the world after the pandemic?
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    Post  kvs Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:42 am

    There will be more repressive measures adopted under the pretext of this pandemic in the west.   It has been on this slippery
    slope for years already.   I do not think Covid-19 is the global economy cataclysm that it is made out to be.   But for sure
    there is a lot of pressure on small business that will consolidate markets in the hands of larger companies.  

    https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1330608586192465921

    Post COVID profits.

    Amazon: +100%
    Walmart: +80%
    Target: +80%

    Small businesses: -30% and 21% have closed down for good.

    (some edits for clarity)

    Any geopolitical and geoeconomic change we will see in the coming years is due to factors which are unrelated
    to Covid-19.   This pandemic will just accelerate some of these trends.
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    Post  kvs Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:11 pm

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/it-will-never-be-licensed-us-analyst-warns-astrazeneca-vaccine-efficacy-embellished

    The AstraZenca aka Oxford vaccine is a flop. Not only is it not safe but it is substantially worse than the two stage human
    adenovirus variants from Russia and the USA. Recall that the NATzO fake stream media accused Russia of stealing this
    miracle cure.


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