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    Viktor

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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  Viktor on Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:25 pm

    medo wrote:http://redstar.ru/index.php/component/k2/item/6332-na-ohrane-vostochnyih-rubezhey

    Russian army in Eastern military district received in 2012 new S-400, Pantsir and Tor units. It seems they have those Tor-M2U they talked about in summer.

    Not sure, as only recently we have seen modernized Tor-M1 being introduced as well.

    Anyway I do hope new Tor-M2 is being produced for Russian Army.
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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  TheArmenian on Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:26 am

    Shown Aero-India 2013

    TOR-M2KM


    New models shown to Sergey Shoigu last week:
    BUK-M3 in the foreground.
    Antey-2500 behind (missile tubes seem to be thinner than the S-300V (but I am not sure).


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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  medo on Tue May 28, 2013 8:29 pm

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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  Viktor on Wed May 29, 2013 4:51 am

    nice acquisition Very Happy


    Air defense systems "Tor-M2" go for two batteries TSB until the end of the year


    New systems will arm two anti-aircraft missile batteries. This year is expected to enroll in more than 40 units of the new generation of radar stations.


    Khabarovsk, May 29 - RIA Novosti. New anti-aircraft missile system "Tor-M2" to the end of the year will go on air defense units, motorized joints of the Eastern Military District, said Wednesday the press service of the county.

    "It is planned to equip two new systems of anti-aircraft missile batteries. Currently, military units, which he entered a new technique being retrained," - states the report.

    It is noted that this year is expected to enroll in more than 40 units of the new generation of radar stations.

    "Tor-M2" - a new generation of combat short-range air defense systems. The Battery "Tor-M2", consisting of four military vehicles at the same time is able to hit 16 targets flying from any direction at a speed of up to 700 meters per second at a distance of 12 kilometers and an altitude of up to ten miles in all weather conditions, day and night.



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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  TR1 on Wed May 29, 2013 5:04 am

    Only thing I am concerned about is their inability to increase max target speed past 700m/s.

    I guess culprit is limited space to change Tor missile significantly.
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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  Viktor on Wed May 29, 2013 12:06 pm

    Fake TOR targets - simple, cheap and effective and ... mass produced Very Happy



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    Post  TheArmenian on Wed May 29, 2013 2:59 pm

    TR1 wrote:Only thing I am concerned about is their inability to increase max target speed past 700m/s.

    I guess culprit is limited space to change Tor missile significantly.

    700 m/s is more than twice the speed of sound. What targets within TOR's engagement envelope can fly at speeds exceeding that?
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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  TR1 on Wed May 29, 2013 5:31 pm

    There are quite a few ARMs out there that fly faster than that, though I am not sure what their approach speeds are.
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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  AlfaT8 on Wed May 29, 2013 6:13 pm

    Viktor wrote:Fake TOR targets - simple, cheap and effective and ... mass produced Very Happy
    Ive seen balloon decoys but never flat cardboard ones. Shocked Shocked Razz
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    Post  Zivo on Wed May 29, 2013 7:24 pm

    Viktor wrote:Fake TOR targets - simple, cheap and effective and ... mass produced Very Happy




    I know this seems cartoonish, but it actually works. Laughing
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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  GarryB on Thu May 30, 2013 3:08 am

    A bit like those advertisements on sports grounds that are painted in a very distorted way, but when the location of the camera is taken into account it appears normal on screen.

    I suspect it is optimised for fooling satellite recon...

    BTW regarding the 700m/s limit very few missiles actually fly at such speeds at low level and very few travel at such speeds for very long. Missiles like HARM might launch and accelerate to mach 4, but with a low flight profile they rapidly decelerate... and with a high flight profile... welcome to late model BUK... and the plane you rode in on. Twisted Evil


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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  TR1 on Thu May 30, 2013 4:31 am

    I figured as much, but while we are on the subject, we always hear about Tor anti-HARM ability...and given the 700m/s target speed limit, is that above the speed ARMs approach a target?

    Anyone have firm figures for ARMs @ low altitude approach speed?
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    Post  GarryB on Thu May 30, 2013 4:51 am

    According to wiki 2,280 kilometres per hour (1,420 mph).

    Which means about 640m/s.


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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  Viktor on Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:21 pm

    About recent TOR testing. 




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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  medo on Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:49 pm

    Nice to see Tor-M2 from army unit.

    Any more official confirmation of rumors, that Russian MoD order 200 more Pantsirs after those trials?
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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  Viktor on Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:00 pm

    medo wrote:Nice to see Tor-M2 from army unit.

    Any more official confirmation of rumors, that Russian MoD order 200 more Pantsirs after those trials?

    I think we all are waiting new missile for TOR-M2 which is in the final phases of testing according to Almaz-Antej concern. Very Happy

    KBP Tula is producing 100 Pancir-S1 (If I remember correctly) for Russian VKO and developing modernization of Pancir-S1 so more orders will follow for sure.

    At the moment Russian Army is buying TOR-M2 and Pancir-S1 and at the same time upgrading TOR-M1 to TOR-MU standard (TOR-M2 technology applied on TOR-M1)
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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:55 pm

    What new missiles will the Tor get? What are its charactoristics?
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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  medo on Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:02 pm

    I think it is 9M334 designation and have range of 15 km.
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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  Viktor on Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 pm

    sepheronx wrote:What new missiles will the Tor get?  What are its charactoristics?

    Look at my post LINK under number 8 of Almaz-Antej report for 2012.

    Designation of the new missile is still unknown as far as I can remember.



    medo wrote:I think it is 9M334 designation and have range of 15 km.

    9M334 is a SAM unit consisting of 4 9M331 missiles - I think. Im not sure we know its designation but you are right. More range in distance and altitude.
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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  medo on Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:27 pm



    Nice photo of army Tor-M2 launching a missile.
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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  GarryB on Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:13 am

    Nice... front fins deployed... presumably so they don't block the rockets to turn the nose of the missile into the direction of the target.

    Tail fins are still folded but then they don't need to work till the main motor lights up.


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    Post  Viktor on Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:19 pm

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    Post  Viktor on Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:45 pm

    And here it is. TOR-M2 on TATA truck (perhaps India is interested)




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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  Austin on Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:23 pm

    Very Interesting Thanks for posting that perhaps part of Indias SHORD purchase will find out.
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    Re: TOR-M2 Air Defence system

    Post  TR1 on Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:09 pm

    That thing is begging for a tracked chassis.

    That truck looks like its ready to flip!

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