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    Post  George1 on Fri 26 Dec 2014, 04:59

    Modern air defence missile systems S-300V4, Tor-M2U supplied to Ground Troops
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    Post  Viktor on Thu 29 Jan 2015, 21:21

    Nice thumbsup

    Developer: SAM "Thor" is able to destroy aircraft "stealth" technology

    "It can not be made invisible from all wavelengths range radar. Someone will see it badly, someone he never will see, and our systems provide 100-percent detection and destruction of the aircraft," - said the official.

    The "stealth", he said, has "gradually loses its relevance."
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    Post  George1 on Thu 29 Jan 2015, 23:23

    Marine version of "Tor-M2U" can be created in Russia
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    Post  TR1 on Fri 30 Jan 2015, 08:54

    Said Aminov posted some very intersting photos of Tor-M2U information plaque Wink.

    Including range and target parameters vs targets at different velocities.

    Will post tommorow.
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    Post  George1 on Sat 31 Jan 2015, 09:48

    New Russian Anti-Air System Prevented Terrorist Attacks on Sochi Olympics

    The new Tor-M2KM and Tor-M2E systems prevented drone-based terrorist attacks during the Winter Olympics in Sochi, a representative of the systems' manufacturer told Sputnik.

    MOSCOW, January 30 (Sputnik) — Russia's newest "Tor" anti-air defense system was used to prevent drone-based terrorist attacks against the Winter Olympics in Sochi, a representative of the plant that produces the systems told Sputnik.

    "According to participants in the operation, they put in some serious work, preventing attempts at terrorist attacks that used drones, as well as balloons. Our unit successfully managed security at the Sochi Olympics," Vyacheslav Kartashov said.

    Kartashov also also told Sputnik that the systems will be used to provide security at the 2018 World Cup in Russia, as the Tor-M2KM modification is modular and can be put on any platform.

    He also explained that the system is unique in that it is designed to destroy guided "smart bombs" and other modern high-accuracy weapons.

    "The Tor type guided anti-air missile has a unique shrapnel, made from a high-density alloy, which has a special mass and form," Kartashov said. "This shrapnel has a high probability of punching through the shell of a guided bomb and detonating the explosives inside."

    Kartashov said that the Tor system has practically no foreign-made components, making its production almost unaffected by sanctions.

    The company has contracts with the Greek, Indian and Iranian militaries to service and modernize older Tor and Osa anti-air systems, and will be presenting the new Tor systems at the Aero India expo in Bangalore in February.

    Vyacheslav Kartashov is the assistant to the general director on military-technical cooperation and government procurements at the IEMZ Kupol plant which makes the systems.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150130/1017573169.html#ixzz3QO3OSvnL
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat 31 Jan 2015, 12:05

    TR1 wrote:Said Aminov posted some very intersting photos of Tor-M2U information plaque Wink.

    Including range and target parameters vs targets at different velocities.

    Will post tommorow.

    While the plaque says Tor-M2U, I thought Tor-M2U was supposed to be the variant shown in the Tor-M2U thread. dunno
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    Post  TR1 on Sat 31 Jan 2015, 21:06

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    TR1 wrote:Said Aminov posted some very intersting photos of Tor-M2U information plaque Wink.

    Including range and target parameters vs targets at different velocities.

    Will post tommorow.

    While the plaque says Tor-M2U, I thought Tor-M2U was supposed to be the variant shown in the Tor-M2U thread. dunno

    I don't remember, what were the visual differences?

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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat 31 Jan 2015, 22:08

    TR1 wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    TR1 wrote:Said Aminov posted some very intersting photos of Tor-M2U information plaque Wink.

    Including range and target parameters vs targets at different velocities.

    Will post tommorow.

    While the plaque says Tor-M2U, I thought Tor-M2U was supposed to be the variant shown in the Tor-M2U thread. dunno

    I don't remember, what were the visual differences?



    Here is the thread.

    http://www.russiadefence.net/t3096-tor-m2u-2
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    Post  TR1 on Sat 31 Jan 2015, 23:31

    Ah yes, thanks.

    Here are the plaques from Said:

    https://fotki.yandex.ru/next/users/said-aminov/album/455549/view/2205636

    For 9M330 missiles, at least according to this poster:

    Target moving @ 300 meters per second:
    Altitude: 10-10,000 meters.
    Range: 1000-12,000 meters.
    Don't know exactly how to xlate this one, but it means the direction of the target relative to the launcher: maximum 8000 meters. The bigger, the harder to hit due to radar mechanics.

    Target moving @ 700 meters per second:
    Altitude: 50-6000 meters.
    Range: 1500-7000 meters.
    Maximum Target Direction parameter: 6000 meters.

    And the rest we know.

    Unfortunately for Pantsir there is no such target speed comparison.
    https://fotki.yandex.ru/next/users/said-aminov/album/455549/view/2205638

    Only maximum target speed: 1000 meters per second, and other figures that we know.


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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sun 01 Feb 2015, 00:09

    TR1 wrote:Ah yes, thanks.

    Here are the plaques from Said:

    https://fotki.yandex.ru/next/users/said-aminov/album/455549/view/2205636

    For 9M330 missiles, at least according to this poster:

    Target moving @ 300 meters per second:
    Altitude: 10-10,000 meters.
    Range: 1000-12,000 meters.
    Don't know exactly how to xlate this one, but it means the direction of the target relative to the launcher: maximum 8000 meters. The bigger, the harder to hit due to radar mechanics.

    Target moving @ 700 meters per second:
    Altitude: 50-6000 meters.
    Range: 1500-7000 meters.
    Maximum Target Direction parameter: 6000 meters.

    And the rest we know.

    Unfortunately for Pantsir there is no such target speed comparison.
    https://fotki.yandex.ru/next/users/said-aminov/album/455549/view/2205638

    Only maximum target speed: 1000 meters per second, and other figures that we know.



    I think предельный курсовой параметр is the maximum horizontal distance to a straight and level course flown by a target at the given speed and altitude that can be successfully engaged in a "guaranteed" manner.
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    Post  TheArmenian on Sun 01 Feb 2015, 12:05

    Indeed, that is the correct explanation.
    In other words, don't waste a missile on a target that is beyond that figure.
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    Post  Viktor on Thu 12 Mar 2015, 20:59

    Nice Tor-M1 video thumbsup
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqi84ZPLNr8
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    Post  George1 on Fri 22 May 2015, 04:01

    In the Astrakhan area within the teachings of anti-aircraft defense of Khabarovsk Krai will hold rocket fire from complexes "Tor M2U." They will destroy the speed target of "Saman" that mimic the cruise missiles.

    http://www.rg.ru/2015/05/21/reg-ufo/paketa-anons.html
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    Post  George1 on Fri 05 Jun 2015, 14:11

    The military air defense units in the Primorsky Krai started practical development of new anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM) Tor-M2U
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    Post  Viktor on Sun 21 Jun 2015, 02:06

    Anyone?

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    Post  collegeboy16 on Sun 21 Jun 2015, 08:06

    Viktor wrote:Anyone?
    rough trans?

    anti-aircraft complex batch <<Tor-M2DT>>

    SAM <<Tor-MDT>> designed for air defense of motorized infantry (tank) brigade in all types of combat and on the march from impact of precision weapons, the aircraft, helicopters, UAVs and TFR, including those made by technology <<steps>> at medium, low and extremely low altitudes in conditions of intensive shooting and radio-optical-electronic counter measures day and night in the far North, Siberia and the far East.

    дальность максимальная - the maximum range
    дальность минимальная - the minimum range
    высота максимальная - the maximum height
    высота минимальная  the minimum height
    число одновременно обстреливаемых целей - the number of simultaneously fired upon goals/ # of targets that can be serviced simul.
    возимый боекомплект зур -  # of missiles
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    Post  Viktor on Sun 21 Jun 2015, 10:49

    Tnx collegeboy !

    Meaning TOR-M2 has 16 ready to fire missiles as opposed 8 in TOR-M2U. Laughing Laughing Laughing russia
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    Post  flamming_python on Sun 21 Jun 2015, 12:30

    The Tor-M2DT appears to be a variant for cold climates, or perhaps something else. Maybe it will be used to equip the new Arctic brigades.

    What I don't understand though is why the Tor-M2U is inferior in specs to the Tor-M2.
    Is it a cheaper variant?
    Or perhaps the names were confused on the information board?

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    Post  mack8 on Sun 21 Jun 2015, 12:46

    Isn't Tor-M2U an upgrade of in-service Tor-M1 systems with elements from Tor-M2? Maybe this could explain those specs.
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    Post  Book. on Sun 21 Jun 2015, 17:35

    16x missle wow!

    new modular design ?

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    Post  George1 on Tue 22 Sep 2015, 10:37

    "Tor-M2U" "taught" to reflect airstrikes on the move, without making stops
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    Post  George1 on Thu 24 Sep 2015, 23:50

    Russia Deploys Advanced Air Defense Tor-M2U to Guard Kuril Islands

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    The Kuril Islands in Russia's Sakhalin Region form a volcanic archipelago that stretches approximately 1,300 km northeast from Hokkaido, Japan, to Kamchatka, Russia, separating the Sea of Okhotsk from the North Pacific Ocean.

    On Wednesday, Russia’s Armed Forces stepped up their combat in the area using the latest anti-missile system ‘Tor-M2U’ in the Kuril Islands, Rossiyskaya Gazeta reported.

    Prior to this, for the past six months the soldiers and officers used the air defense system in experimental mode.

    The Russian General Staff chose this particular weapon to protect the far eastern borders of Russia due to its combat capabilities. The Tor-M2U refers to a new generation of short-range air defense systems. Its main task is to cover the most important military and government facilities from attack from aircraft, helicopters, cruise missiles and enemy drones.

    Each air defense missile system carries eight missiles which are launched vertically. It provides reliable protection against air targets flying at speeds of up to 700 meters per second. It is not only able to detect and identify 48 targets in the sky, but can also automatically determine which of them is the most dangerous.

    Once the ‘identification’ is completed, the defense system can simultaneously fire four missiles at the enemy targets. The firing range of the Tor M2U measures from 500 meters to 12 kilometers and the height is from 10 meters to 6 kilometers.

    In other words, if a foreign fighter jet, helicopter, small-sized drone or even a reconnaissance balloon comes anywhere near the Kuril Islands it will not go unnoticed. The anti-missile system will ‘see’ the enemy targets in any weather conditions day or night.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150924/1027469736/russia-kurile-islands-air-defense-missile-system.html#ixzz3mhA3wZuY
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    Post  Guest on Sat 26 Sep 2015, 17:52

    "Russia has successfully conducted live fire tests of its advanced Tor-M2U surface-to-air missile system. What made the test so special is that the missiles were fired on the move!

    The Tor-M2U system was designed by the Almaz-Antei Concern to engage planes, helicopters, cruise missiles, precision guided munitions, unmanned aerial vehicles and short-range ballistic threats.
    Tor was also the first air defense system in the world designed from the start to shoot down precision guided weapons day and night, in bad weather and jamming situations.
    What the system could not do was to fire on the move. The trials were conducted at Kapustin Yar range in Russia’s southern Astrakhan region. Moving at 25 km/h over rought terrain the Tor-M2U managed to spot and destroy the target maneuvering eight kilometers away. According to Almaz-Antei deputy chief designer Pavel Sozinov, the successful test was putting the Tor–M2U on a qualitatively new technological level making it possible to engage aerial targets from a moving position."



    Source: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150926/1027583140/russia-missiles-test.html#ixzz3mrPPlLk4

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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sun 27 Dec 2015, 01:12

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:I don't remember where I got this picture from. It shows a Tor-M2U (Тор-М2У) launcher firing a missile from the 9M338 family.

    It is interesting that the launcher covers open in a direction perpendicular to those of the Tor-M1 launchers. It seems the launchers shown during the practice runs for the victory day parade are just Tor-M2 launchers, and similarly those that were at Sochi.

    By the way, 10 different new missile types have already been publicized as destined for the Tor-M2U. They are 9М338, 9М338ГН, 9М338Д, 9М338К, 9М338КУД, 9М339, 9М339УД, 9М339К, 9М339КУ, and РЗВ-МД (export model of 9М338К). Many more to be made public in the future.

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    So it now seems that the above variant and the ones posted here are variants of Tor beyond that of Tor-M2U.
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    Post  jhelb on Sun 27 Dec 2015, 19:55

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:I don't remember where I got this picture from. It shows a Tor-M2U (Тор-М2У) launcher firing a missile from the 9M338 family.

    It is interesting that the launcher covers open in a direction perpendicular to those of the Tor-M1 launchers. It seems the launchers shown during the practice runs for the victory day parade are just Tor-M2 launchers, and similarly those that were at Sochi.

    By the way, 10 different new missile types have already been publicized as destined for the Tor-M2U. They are 9М338, 9М338ГН, 9М338Д, 9М338К, 9М338КУД, 9М339, 9М339УД, 9М339К, 9М339КУ, and РЗВ-МД (export model of 9М338К). Many more to be made public in the future.

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    So it now seems that the above variant and the ones posted here are variants of Tor beyond that of Tor-M2U.

    Morpheus, what is the intercept probability of TOR when it is firing on the move?

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