Russia Defence Forum

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


+29
Sujoy
Regular
Tingsay
TheArmenian
The-thing-next-door
Odin of Ossetia
kvs
nero
Hannibal Barca
par far
ahmedfire
Admin
franco
PapaDragon
RTN
miketheterrible
flamming_python
Vann7
Rodion_Romanovic
JohninMK
jhelb
Isos
Aristide
andalusia
DerWolf
nomadski
Hole
magnumcromagnon
George1
33 posters

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    kvs
    kvs


    Posts : 15136
    Points : 15273
    Join date : 2014-09-11
    Location : Turdope's Kanada

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  kvs Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:59 pm

    https://twitter.com/berniespofforth/status/1244196122513506304

    20 flights arrived yesterday into London from NY.

    - There was no social distancing on the plane
    - No checks when they arrived.
    - these passengers dispersed, many to the Tube.

    Meanwhile police drones threaten sole walkers in the Peak District.

    Utter nonsense.
    avatar
    Vann7


    Posts : 5385
    Points : 5485
    Join date : 2012-05-16

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  Vann7 Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:21 am

    nomadski wrote:@Vann7

    Well maybe there are real victims in USA too. And if there were no victims in USA, then there would have to be victims in USA.  That is, if this virus was manufactured and originated there. And those in the know, know already. One way or other, there has to be mass casualties in USA. No other way.  Only question, who is to spread it and how. How many victims.



    You are being distracted of the real important things..
    the entire conflict of covid19.. every information strongly points to a US attack on nations
    they consider enemies or not obedient enough.. as is the case of italy.. that cooperated with china
    business. and it could be the case also of france ,germany and even spain..

    so the word you need to memorize is Government Organized Controlled Chaos .

    is destruction that is carefully crafted.. to cause maximum damage.. to the enemy..
    while at the same time , hiding their hands.. in the attack.

    have you see controlled building demolition ? that they deploy dynamite inside a building
    so it collapse in an organized way ,without damaging building near ??  then this is exactly
    what is happening.. is a controlled biological demolition attack. on the enemies and disloyal
    allies of the US empire..

    In controlled demolitions ,is not rare that at times some things ,does not go the way it was
    planned. so that cause collateral damage to other buildings.. so this is fine..because the vast majority
    of the operation of the damage happened where they wanted.. the important thing is ,that they have a way to quickly fix the problem , in case of any collateral damage .  Is in some way similar to US oil war against
    Russia.. they bring down oil prices world wide..by flooding the market with oil and natural gas. full knowing it will drive to bankruptcy their smaller energy fracking companies.. but so what?  it cause a hell of a lot more damage
    to Putin's Russia  gass station dependent  economy. because contrary to Russia ,that near half of its budget
    comes from its Oil and gas industry.. in US , its economy only 5-7% comes from energy business.   Wink
    So yeah US can lose 5% of its nation economy in this self attack on oil prices.. but Russia will lose half of its budget.. and probably more.. because gas prom is the company ,that more jobs creates in russia ,from engineering to services ,to janitors ,to small food shops ,that sells to their employers.

    So the virus in US can be any virus.. they control it.. you can do that.. by handpicking the people that will be infested.. could be people already in hospitals..for other things.. like flu or asma or influenza and later they injected with a virus.. that is not lethal or that is lethal...on in which ever way they prefer.. is a controlled chaos
    remember.. this combined with signigicantly inflated numbers.. will make anyone believe that they face a real virus attack.. that is "out of control" ,when it could be totally controlled..    in my opinion ,it will be easier to control the death rate if they use something else ,that is not corona virus.. and with help of corrupt doctors.. advertise it to the media as "covid19".. call the media like cnn and how how he is dying.

    So this is what i means.. that US covid19 event is fake...means that is an inside job ,that is staged..
    that is scripted and controlled and their numbers are artificially significantly inflated.. so if they have 10 people infested in an hospital..with a common flu.. they can easily claim they have 20,000 covid19 sick people..  so after all , who is doing the count? lol1  they refuse chinese media or RT to enter in hospital do do the counting.. Wink  
    contrary to china ,that allowed foreign journalist to film inside their  hospitals.. US don't allow foreign cameras
    to even film towards inside their hospitals.. perhaps so that they don't discover the fraud ? Wink  


    but sputnik and another report, already have proven that is a fraud.. because the hospitals claimed to supposedly was "overwhelmed" with stack of infested people and dead bodies , and was collapsing hospitals.. what the video show is an hospital in total peace.. in normal operation ,in a slow day ,with an ambulance driver peacefully eating his lunch ,while waiting for anything to do. dozens of empty tents and empty ambulances with their crew doing nothing in the outside.. it is a fraud.. there is no question about this.. look at my previous post.. i posted  TWO videos..pages earlier..look for it.. of 2 different sources.. showing what was really happening in new york.. hospitals.. the supposed  "Capital of corona virus" , with hospitals :supposedly "collapsing" and "city in shutdown " but videos shows a totally different picture..  is a total fraud ,the whole thing..  
    in one video ,there was a bunch of ambulances.. dozens.. all doing nothing.. people waiting in their car,without
    face mask.. lol1   and the investigator asked the health workers if they saw people infested  or the morgues with stack of bodies outside and they could not answer that simple question... it was all quiet and peaceful in and around the hospital. and empty fema tents.. in the outside.. and there was national guard doing nothing too..
    they neither could answer where was the morgues of death people,that american media was claiming ,was overcrowding hospitals.  so is  total fraud dude.. 100%..   by now ,they should be aware of people discussing
    this.. and hiring better actors and perhaps deploying some bodies from another places near the hospital for show..  but unfortunately for them.. they can't reverse the videos that exist..with evidence it was all fake crisis.
    if people die it could be of natural causes or car accidents of any ill condition they already have.. before covid19 ,people die every day of so many different things.. and this will not change. .every day hundreds of people die in america of health issues.. so is not like they will be out of ideas ..how to fake better a covid19 pandemic event.

    is a fraud because videos don't lie.. you can't have a pandemic in a city ,if nearly every shopping center is open ,people without gas mask.. and moving from cities to other cities ,and police doing nothing to contain anything.. ambulances shinning for their absence.. even the subway is open , people grouping allowed. and even airport flights from across the country allowed.  this is non sense dude.. if there was a real emergency in US , they will not allow New york ,people living there ,to move to another state.. it will be more like what china did.. that isolated wuhan from all china , and nobody could leave.. just like in movies of pandemic .. thats how it was in china.. that national guard completely isolate zones to contain the virus.. and this is not happening in United States.

    if the US elites notices... social media discussing a lot of this covid fraud in New York ,.they will be capable
    of sacrificing an entire city with 100,000 people killed for real using real covid19. and people like you , that were not sure ,will likely fall in the distraction stunt..   but believe me.. is a fraud.. and from now on...whether people die or not ,or how they die. covid or not,.whether they allow you to count or not.. is irrelevant now.. because the fraud was already exposed..  

    [b] because is a gov controlled crisis... they can hand pick the zones to attack.. and sacrifice
    as many citizens as they need..as a distraction ..to convince people to believe their story.
    they can hand pick people already in hospitals ,locked for another reason.. in intensive care..
    and change the way they die.. and use it , to proof their point..
    use.. normal flu attacks or more dangerous virus like covid19..  because nobody is counting the sick and the deaths.. and you can't know with a video ,what illness anyone in a hospital have.. so they can claim anything and there will be no way to proof it.. unless they allow foreign media to visit ,film and interview doctors.. and even allow foreign virulogist to do the counting and inspect the bodies of death people. and test if they have or not covid19.. but they are not allowing china ,neither anyone to even film in their hospitals.. so they
    are hiding it ,for the obvious reasons ,that they don't want people to verify their claims.. that they are truly experiencing a covid19 pandemic event ,like italy and china ,iran and  Russia have.  This looks pretty much like a
    biological weapon attack by US on adversaries and Russia and china are strongly hinting about this..
    so doesn't matter how many dies now in US ,their fake was already caught on cameras..and they can't reverse
    time.. to undo it..

    a tactic distraction they can use , to deviate the attention to the fraud.. is to accuse its enemies
    of the same things they are accused and hire actors ,to fake something in the countries they want to discredit..
    this is what i call to shoot at the messenger.. so people switch the attention from the pandemic fraud in USA ,towards something else that they can also stage by hiring $$ actors in another nation.


    kvs
    kvs


    Posts : 15136
    Points : 15273
    Join date : 2014-09-11
    Location : Turdope's Kanada

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  kvs Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:24 am

    https://summit.news/2020/03/30/cbs-news-uses-footage-of-worst-hit-hospital-in-italy-while-describing-new-york-coronavirus-outbreak/


    CBS News is under fire for using footage of the “worst hit” hospital in Bergamo, Italy to illustrate a report about the coronavirus outbreak in New York.

    The comparison clip shows a Sky News report from March 22nd in which the reporter states, “This is the main hospital in Bergamo in Lombardy province,” describing it as “the most hard hit of hospitals.”

    Three days later, CBS News aired a report with a chyron that read, “America’s Epicenter – New York now accounts for more than half of U.S. cases.”
    Tsavo Lion
    Tsavo Lion


    Posts : 5815
    Points : 5771
    Join date : 2016-08-15
    Location : AZ, USA

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  Tsavo Lion Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:22 am

    Hainan update: https://regnum.ru/news/society/2900172.html

    https://eurasianet.org/dashboard-coronavirus-in-eurasia

    https://www.pravdareport.com/news/science/144437-coronavirus_temperature/ Most of Central & S. America also have warm climate, but cases r on the rise there.
    Brazil: https://regnum.ru/news/society/2900190.html
    Isos
    Isos


    Posts : 11302
    Points : 11272
    Join date : 2015-11-06

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  Isos Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:40 pm

    From twitter lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RALee85/status/1244762988483051521

    Abel Rex
    @abelrex777
    ·
    3h
    Gee, I wonder if USN has one of these so they could shoot some covid-infected sailors into those Russian ships. Would be much more effective than dated piece of trash Harpoon

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Eua7iv10
    nomadski
    nomadski


    Posts : 2793
    Points : 2801
    Join date : 2017-01-02

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  nomadski Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:00 pm

    @ Vann7

    From the video you posted, it does look odd that, there is no sense of urgency in these hospitals. I agree with you that it is quite possible to lie about causes of death and statistics of disease. I have seen it  myself in hospitals. The numbers could be reduced, to pretend normality. Or increased to pretend a non - existent epidemic. I think that the Americans should work with Russia and China. Allow inspection of their hospitals. Provide samples for identification of strain of disease. And developing a cure. If they do not do this, then it is highly suspect. There is absolutely  necessary for all nations to work together. If they will not provide samples and inspection, then I think doctors in US hospital, should do this. Send samples to Russia or China. Or samples obtained from victims, by other means. If even there is a single case of  Corona death that is found not to be true. After specific test carried out. Then this is proof of a cover up, and biological attack, that the US government carried out or covered up. Is guilty. Must wait for consequences.

    @KVS

    From the start, if Corona mortality was similar to flu, killing the very old, with about 0.5 to 1.0 percent. Then no government or health authority would shut down a city or declare emergency. Some said about Corona, that mortality was slightly more than flu, with just over 1.0 percent mortality. But someone said that, for example in UK, there was about 8000 death annually from flu. This is about twenty deaths per day. Now in UK we have 200 deaths per day. Also rate of infection of Corona, very fast. Similar to seasonal flu. Therefore from similar numbers of infected, we have ten times as many dead. So rate of death from Corona is about 10 %.  Higher than SARS  and MERS.  But as I said before, the tendency is to down play numbers and reduce anxiety. A white lie. Unless we are in USA, then as Vann7, said maybe artificial High numbers.
    auslander
    auslander


    Posts : 1637
    Points : 1715
    Join date : 2015-04-25

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  auslander Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:26 pm

    13:00 local time Sevastopol

    Sevastopol is shut. Block posts are in operation since early this morning. If you don't have propeeska or proof with you that you own property in Sevastopol, you are not allowed in. No exceptions except commercial vehicles with bill of lading for Sevastopol. Block post just east of Belbek/Lubimovka/Inkerman Ring.


    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 001111
    Tsavo Lion
    Tsavo Lion


    Posts : 5815
    Points : 5771
    Join date : 2016-08-15
    Location : AZ, USA

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  Tsavo Lion Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:28 pm

    https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-03-31-20/index.html?utm_term=1585652072908a8833fec8119&utm_source=Five+Things+for+Tuesday%2C+March+31+2020&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=194410_1585652072913&bt_ee=m8YMYTU%2Bcjv0rucPlyZdoWRmel0QHIBTa1Tvb8BVyVjnMOhlFKHNIxYD8dmKD%2Ffa&bt_ts=1585652072913

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/us/usns-comfort-hospital-ship-new-york-coronavirus/index.html?utm_term=1585652072908a8833fec8119&utm_source=Five+Things+for+Tuesday%2C+March+31+2020&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=194410_1585652072913&bt_ee=m8YMYTU%2Bcjv0rucPlyZdoWRmel0QHIBTa1Tvb8BVyVjnMOhlFKHNIxYD8dmKD%2Ffa&bt_ts=1585652072913

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/health/coronavirus-us-ihme-model-us/index.html?utm_term=1585652072908a8833fec8119&utm_source=Five+Things+for+Tuesday%2C+March+31+2020&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=194410_1585652072913&bt_ee=m8YMYTU%2Bcjv0rucPlyZdoWRmel0QHIBTa1Tvb8BVyVjnMOhlFKHNIxYD8dmKD%2Ffa&bt_ts=1585652072913

    https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-03-31-20/index.html?utm_term=1585652072908a8833fec8119&utm_source=Five+Things+for+Tuesday%2C+March+31+2020&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=194410_1585652072913&bt_ee=m8YMYTU%2Bcjv0rucPlyZdoWRmel0QHIBTa1Tvb8BVyVjnMOhlFKHNIxYD8dmKD%2Ffa&bt_ts=1585652072913

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/03/north-koreas-silent-struggle-against-covid-19/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=33a3982cce-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_03_31_11_41&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-33a3982cce-31607385&mc_cid=33a3982cce&mc_eid=5455568640
    kvs
    kvs


    Posts : 15136
    Points : 15273
    Join date : 2014-09-11
    Location : Turdope's Kanada

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  kvs Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:24 pm

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    CNN et al. should be really happy now:

    (country) (cases) (daily case increment) (deaths) (daily death increment)

    Russia: 2,337 +501 17 +8
    Luxembourg: 1,988 n/a 22 n/a
    avatar
    Vann7


    Posts : 5385
    Points : 5485
    Join date : 2012-05-16

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  Vann7 Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:17 pm

    nomadski wrote:@ Vann7

    From the video you posted, it does look odd that, there is no sense of urgency in these hospitals. I agree with you that it is quite possible to lie about causes of death and statistics of disease. I have seen it  myself in hospitals. The numbers could be reduced, to pretend normality. Or increased to pretend a non - existent epidemic. I think that the Americans should work with Russia and China. Allow inspection of their hospitals. Provide samples for identification of strain of disease. And developing a cure. If they do not do this, then it is highly suspect. There is absolutely  necessary for all nations to work together. If they will not provide samples and inspection, then I think doctors in US hospital, should do this. Send samples to Russia or China. Or samples obtained from victims, by other means. If even there is a single case of  Corona death that is found not to be true. After specific test carried out. Then this is proof of a cover up, and biological attack, that the US government carried out or covered up. Is guilty. Must wait for consequences.


    so if there is no sense of urgency and you don't see the military like in movies closing cities.
    is because there is no pandemic virus as they claimed and they fully control it.. this looks from every
    direction that US attacked its enemies with a bioweapon. so don't expect any kind of cooperation .
    Terrorist will not cooperate with anyone ,to get them exposed and arrested.

    this is very likely a bioweapon attack.. and Russia and china the main targets.. and italy too..
    to send a message to europe for their disloyalty to the west.

    what could be more embarrassing that this ?

    Head of Russian coronavirus hospital visited by Putin tests positive for Covid-19

    https://www.rt.com/russia/484583-russias-head-of-coronavirus-hospital/

    Putin have been caught with pants down again.. showing he can't even protect his own nation
    or people closer to him. putin's tourism ,is how the virus likely came.. someone from the outside did it.
    even sevastopol which is very closed city in crimea is under attack Shocked
    so this was a well planned event.. and Putin will go down in history as the new Mikhail Gorbachev.
    but destroyed Russia by lowering their guard against their western friends..



    Tsavo Lion
    Tsavo Lion


    Posts : 5815
    Points : 5771
    Join date : 2016-08-15
    Location : AZ, USA

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  Tsavo Lion Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:43 pm

    https://www.pravdareport.com/news/world/144439-covid_russia/

    https://www.svoboda.org/a/30520305.html

    https://www.apn.ru/index.php?newsid=38251

    http://www.ng.ru/world/2020-03-30/6_7830_germany.html?print=Y

    https://www.janes.com/article/95232/covid-19-nato-c-17s-deliver-medical-kit-to-romania

    https://vz.ru/world/2020/3/31/1031702.print.html

    http://www.ng.ru/news/674706.html?print=Y

    https://www.juancole.com/2020/03/spanish-predicted-decline.html

    http://www.ng.ru/news/675010.html?print=Y
    JohninMK
    JohninMK


    Posts : 14713
    Points : 14848
    Join date : 2015-06-16
    Location : England

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:13 pm

    Its getting worse on the USN carrier now moored in Guam. Cases gone up from 28 to 100 and the Captain is pleading for help.

    If he's not careful he will find a Chinese destroyer headin his way at full speed intending to offer him masks, medics, etc.
    JohninMK
    JohninMK


    Posts : 14713
    Points : 14848
    Join date : 2015-06-16
    Location : England

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:39 pm

    If you want chapter and verse on what Russia is doing to combat COVID-19 and pretty impressive it is, follow the link. Warning it is a long article.

    http://johnhelmer.net/follow-china-follow-russia-follow-america-the-politics-of-covid-19-alternatives-without-choice/
    franco
    franco


    Posts : 6710
    Points : 6736
    Join date : 2010-08-18

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  franco Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:42 pm

    JohninMK wrote:If you want chapter and verse on what Russia is doing to combat COVID-19 and pretty impressive it is, follow the link. Warning it is a long article.

    http://johnhelmer.net/follow-china-follow-russia-follow-america-the-politics-of-covid-19-alternatives-without-choice/

    Stay safe out there. Looks like your area is starting to reeve up.
    Tsavo Lion
    Tsavo Lion


    Posts : 5815
    Points : 5771
    Join date : 2016-08-15
    Location : AZ, USA

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  Tsavo Lion Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:47 pm

    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/490376-aircraft-carrier-captain-pleads-for-help-with-coronavirus-outbreak

    https://thediplomat.com/2020/03/covid-19-cases-reported-on-both-us-aircraft-carriers-in-western-pacific/

    https://www.foxnews.com/travel/coronavirus-cruises-ships-stranded-sea-pandemic

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a31742957/navy-hospital-ships-new-york/



    kvs
    kvs


    Posts : 15136
    Points : 15273
    Join date : 2014-09-11
    Location : Turdope's Kanada

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  kvs Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:17 pm

    https://www.newswars.com/watch-hundreds-of-travelers-storm-out-of-airport-quarantine/


    Ukr retards demonstrating their primitivism to the world. I could imagine a 6 month quarantine being too much for people.
    But two weeks!? Shoot these losers on sight.


    Tsavo Lion
    Tsavo Lion


    Posts : 5815
    Points : 5771
    Join date : 2016-08-15
    Location : AZ, USA

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  Tsavo Lion Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:32 pm

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/should-all-americans-be-wearing-face-masks-to-protect-against-coronavirus-these-scientists-say-yes-2020-03-31
    avatar
    Vann7


    Posts : 5385
    Points : 5485
    Join date : 2012-05-16

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  Vann7 Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:16 am

    @nomadski

    in short be careful with media reports distractions..  if US is behind a major bioweapon attack..
    as everything points it is.. they will try to make it look they face a major pandemic crisis in their own land..
    and "can't control it"  . american soldiers for sure have to be vaccinated from covid19 before anything happened
    to china.   same with british soldiers..  this however does not stop them ,from creating a show ,
    as if they are facing a major apocaliptic scenario..  US doctors are scaring people saying there will be
    "millions of americans killed" . but is fake.. an staged false flag.. to harm enemies and make it look
    the authors of the bioweapon attack are victims too..

    more examples of how disinformation tactics works..

    as soon the next channel video ,began to post about the fake pandemic event in new york..
    they began to fill hospitals in new york with people , claimed to be "covid19" infested..
    and then now propagandist trolls ,are in the channel doing exactly what i told you..

    if evidence shows that United States is lying to the world and faking that is suffering
    a covid19 pandemic scenario..  then now his channel is full of new people accusing china of this
    ,china of that..  china , china ,china .. as if china is part of the illuminati and they planned with US
    the fake attack..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppe-BFNFjIc

    so like it happens in magic shows.. the attention is driven away of the real scandal..
    that is US if faking massively a pandemic covid19 event.. in new york.. lying to the world
    and that China accused US of being behind the attack on their country..

    yet does 2 facts does not matters.. for those seeking to hide the truth.. they create "alternative stories"
    of how china is allied with the world trade organization.. to lie the world.. bla bla bla.. they even using
    the bible to claim china is the antichrist..  lol1

    So what the hell China had to do ,with the discovery that New York city hospital were shamefully lying the world with a fake covid crisis in US territory ?

    so this is how distractions works.. people continue reporting distraction of what US claims , as if the evidence of the fraud did not exist..   imagine that a video surface of trump raping a women.. and beating her .. and she crying and wounded in the fight...obviously this evidence alone should be enough ,to arrest him.   but then later someone claim.. china hired the women ,is a chinese spy..and her goal was to sexually offer trump ,and later claim that she was rapped.. then they will later talk about other cases china have done the same. ,then china this and then china that...  Neutral   this is a classic distraction tactic.. deviate the attention of the real crime.. and distract
    people with alternative stories (without presenting a single evidence to backup that).. other that words . of what US claims.. but no evidence..  

    So investigative journalist , walks for an entire week ,through several hospital in new york and discover the claims of hospital collapsing was fake.. and that ambulance were in the dozens ,parked doing nothing..and police
    banning the use of cameras to film inside.. then now people are seeking to blame china for the covid19..
    so i hope you see the game ,how it works.. to accuse the victim of being the villain..and ignore the facts
    captured on video ,that there is no lock down in new york.. there is no pandemic.. and many business open
    including home ,as if nothing happening. Laughing

    we saw that also in the novichok chemical attack incident.
    Russia was accused of it.. of trowing a bio attack on uk..  then boris johnson is caught in a big lie in an interview
    because he claimed the laboratory told , the substance was a chemical weapon and that russia did it..
    yet in a following interview with the laboratory.. the same chief that boris told.. that they found russia did it..
    he denied this claims of ever talking to boris johnson..because
    their laboratories studies are not finished and so they don't know yet.. at that time.. if the substance
    is novishock or not..   so what is the scandal ? that borish johnson was blatanly caught lying over
    the novishok.. his own laboratory .... contradict him...  yet none of this matter.. because uk continue
    claiming russia likely did it..  lol1  and end of the story..

    so is the same thing..
    US have been caught lying the world ,faking a crisis of covid-19 pandemic event in New York.. that hospitals
    were "collapsing" with so many sick and death people.  yet the videos proved it was all a big lie..
    Now the propaganda is trying to reverse everything.. as like the saying.. don't believe the things that
    videos shows.. believe in our words.. lol1 the most popular distraction of the disinformant agents..
    is to accuse china as evil nation.. (when they are the victims of a us attack) ,and china being part of
    " the new world order.."as if they were the masterminds of using a virus on their own nation to destroy
    their own economy and business" Rolling Eyes

    weak minds are easily distracted by playing with people emotions and convinved to ignore facts..
    of things videos show.. ie.. US fabricating an entire pandemic story.. contrary to what china and europe face.

    reality is.. china did locked its cities completely.and isolated completely wuhan from main land...exactly as they were supposed to do they had a full lockdown .. while US still today have most  business open and allow people to move from new york to other states..  Shocked  which is totally opposite of what you will do ,if 100,000 people are infested in a city with a lethal virus.. which will be highly criminal ,if they were facing a real pandemic event.. in a real crisis.. the city of new york will be closed completely and isolated from all other states and nothing allowed to leave the city and no one allowed to enter.. and everyone in their houses.. period.. this is what china did.. but not what US is doing. so who is the main suspect of a fraud? absolitely the american are..
    but does not stop ,disinformation agentes.. to derail the conversation from US .. towads china this ,china that. and "china evil."
    Tsavo Lion
    Tsavo Lion


    Posts : 5815
    Points : 5771
    Join date : 2016-08-15
    Location : AZ, USA

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:31 am

    Just because things r done differently in the US, it doesn't mean it's a staged crisis here. Political culture & systems r different; the Chinese people & provinces r not the same as the American people & States.
    Even if the vaccine was ready, inoculating all of the active military couldn't be kept secret for long.




    Some "deep state" &/ CIA elements could release the virus to shake up governments & societies in both hemispheres.
    We only see the tip of the iceberg of what's really going on behind the headlines.


    Last edited by Tsavo Lion on Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:44 am; edited 1 time in total
    kvs
    kvs


    Posts : 15136
    Points : 15273
    Join date : 2014-09-11
    Location : Turdope's Kanada

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  kvs Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:43 am



    So US officials were telling everyone to get out and party in February of 2020, but then did a 180 and started
    blaming Trump for "denying the threat". Interesting how "hug a Chinese" was a widespread PC spasm of insanity
    that basically set up the extreme case load in Italy and New York State.

    Then these scumbags engage in tin foil hat conspiracy theories about Russia.

    avatar
    Vann7


    Posts : 5385
    Points : 5485
    Join date : 2012-05-16

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  Vann7 Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:00 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:Just because things r done differently in the US, it doesn't mean it's a staged crisis here. Political culture & systems r different; the Chinese people & provinces r not the same as the American people & States.
    Even if the vaccine was ready, inoculating all of the active military couldn't be kept secret for long.


    Some "deep state" &/ CIA elements could release the virus to shake up governments & societies in both hemispheres.
    We only see the tip of the iceberg of what's really going on behind the headlines.


    and i disagree with that..
    is about logic or common sense..

    Even american movies of pandemic shows exactly how is done..albeit they take the worse case scenario..
    like dropping a nuke in a contained city.. but the basic idea of isolation of the place.. this is also done in all american movies..  exactly the way china did it.. and exactly as russia is doing.. so this have nothing to do
    with china culture ,but with saving lives..
    if you have 100,000 people infested with a virus in one city , you need to isolate the virus ,you can't allow it to propagate to other cities.. how can you question this simple argument.. this can't be debated.. is logic and common sense.. US is not closing new york .. is allowing people to move freely from new york city to others cities.. is not enforcing that people stay in their homes.. the ambulance workers or fireworker entering and leaving hospital without gas mask..  Laughing   there is zero police or national guard presence in new york city hospitals to keep order..

    if anyone is infested in a hospital with covid-19.. what the hospital is supposed to
    do? allow the ill person ,to freely walk through all the hospital?????? infesting other people?
    absolutely not.. so why is different outside the hospital ?  people ill with covid19,is locked down inside the hospital.. in a special room.. and with special equipment.. nothing of that is happening dude.. i have see
    videos of new york hospitals and nurses use a cheap face mask..and plastic gloves and nothing else..
    not covering her eyes even.. so as if IS was a third world nation.. and only 5 oxygen ventilators ,she told
    they had.. and guess what? none of them were used..  lol1

    so where are the dying people ? where are the sick ? american media did a report on one hospital in new york
    i think it was the new york post.. and they interview this nurse...  but there was no sense of emergency inside
    and instead of showing the sick americans.. you know what they did ? they insert videos of italian hospitals..
    in their report.. and use the images as if they were in new york..  and talk about new york hospitals collapsing..  lol1 so there is a clear disinformation campaign in US media , promoting lies ,that are not true.. about US hospitals.. there is so much lies and propaganda.. i already posted a 2 videos to proof this..

    but here is the problem...

    that no amount of videos ,that anyone post here.. will proof that US have a real crisis.. and the reason is
    they have been exposed already of the fraud.. that the capital of the corona virus ,with more infested people in
    the world.. their hospitals have been filmed ,and its was just another normal day.. nothing different as how it is..
    there was fema tents.. and all of them empty.. there was nation guard and they all doing nothing.. a dozen of ambulances parked with people inside and no one doing anything.. it was obvious ,the entire thing was a hoax.
    and they walked for one hour around the hospitals and nearly no ambulances alarms either.. is not the emergency american media claimed.. neither they allowing cameras or journalist to film inside.. this is totally
    different to italy,china and russia.. so they are clearly inflating their emergency .. on television but not in the ground..

    so no ammount of new videos ,will convince me ,that US is experiencing a major crisis.. why?
    because the fraud is already exposed.. 2 videos of 2 different sources and about 4 different hospitals
    and in all of them ,the silence and peace ,and lack movement of any ambulances or police or national guard
    was a clear sign ,the entire thing was fully under control.. and not an apocalipsis as they claimed..

    so they have been exposed. already of the pandemic fraud . so any new evidence will not contradict
    that is a fraud.. if any it will show ,they are changing the tactics and increasing the bullshit.. and if people continue discussing the fraud.. they will not hesitate to start killing people in order to add more realism..to their fake..  so this is why no new videos will help.. the fraud is already exposed and for them it will be very easy ,to get sick people from other cities or states.. and send them to new york city hospitals.. for maximum propaganda effect.

    that will be like catching a wife cheating with someone else..after you follow her on your car ,
    and enters someone else how.. and you find both in the bed..  so .. will you need more information
    to confirm she cheats on you?  absolutely not..

    so is the same thing.. US gov have been caught with pants down , cheating and lying the world about suffering
    a pandemic crisis.. since 3-4 of their major hospitals that was claimed to be the front line in the crisis and were about to "collapse" ,were absolutely quiet ..and with ambulances there , for hours doing nothing.. and major security around the hospital either..

    there was in the forum many  from new york ,nurses too.. saying their hospitals were empty too and saw
    everything calm. so what more evidence you need? they are faking the entire thing.. video evidence confirm this..and the fact that they don't lock down cities.. it only proof ,they are not worried and not taking seriously
    the virus.. that had to be ,because the entire this is fake.. a fraud.. and is staged.. their secrecy and their carelessness for allowing people to travel freely to other cities is a signature of the fraud. is as simple as that.
    Russia and china are blocking all entries to their country ,while US is allowing people to freely move from mexico into US ,no problem.. No   the only pandemic that US face is a pandemic of lies.. and they have been caught in the cheat.. and no videos now will matter , they know now they have been exposed ..even by sputnik..
    and now they are using new tactics ,to make more believable their fraud.. so no ammount of tents in central park
    will convince me that there is a covid19 pandemic event..  russia and china build new hospitals.. where are the new hospitals for americans? lol1   you need to separate people infested and remove them from hospitals..
    you don't send them to their house or to fema tent outside the hospital. Rolling Eyes

    US is fabricating a crisis...and the reason for this is clearly because they are afraid of the world ,finding it very
    suspicious ,why the world is dying of a virus and they are not.. so they are likely faking a crisis, as a distraction
    that they have nothing to do with the virus.. as China already accused them.

    watch this video again.. this is one of them that expose the fraud.. no emergencies ,or hospitals collapsing
    as american government was claiming..

    only 1 ambulance show up in 1 hour of video..  lol1
    in what was supposed to be a warzone ,hospitals "collapsing" and the capital of
    covid19...  Rolling Eyes  




    look this comments from the live video..


    @Lisa Marie
    ​spoke to a nurse in CT that said staffs hours are being cut, her hospital is empty


    right in that video.. ambulance turn on siren..when get near the hospital for nothing , pass the hospital then turn it down.. is a big show ,what is happen in new york.. and their goal is to hide ,their participation in the bio attack on europe ,russia and china.. . Us soldiers neither in iraq are using face mask..  lol1  but iraqui soldiers does..
    they have all to be vaccinated to covid19.. and thats the reason they not worried. they were prepared for the virus..and as a matter of fact. millions were vacinated in 2018 in a campaign against influenza... but will not be surprising it was covid19 mas scale vaccinations.. 2 years before their major attack on china.

    after all information i have seen.. connecting the dots.. everything points that what some major countries in Europe ,China and Russia are facing..is a major biological terrorist attack. and United States military and agencies are the primary suspect.. and all this claims of "hospitals collapsing" ,tents in central park.. claims
    of artist infested and major popular figures or american soldiers. is a big smoke wall.. a major distraction ,
    to hide their hands on this major biological attack incident. and Russia is already throwing hints ,that it was a bio weapon.. china already pointed fingers and US troops that visited wuhan ,week earlier the virus began..
    so you can believe what you want.. but Russia and china already are pointing fingers at US military for this..criminal terror attack.. the only questions are details of how it was done and whether or not trump ordered
    this.. or if it was the swamp in the pentagon who did it.


    Last edited by Vann7 on Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:42 am; edited 1 time in total
    Tsavo Lion
    Tsavo Lion


    Posts : 5815
    Points : 5771
    Join date : 2016-08-15
    Location : AZ, USA

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:30 am

    The borders with Mexico & Canada r closed; people protest the lack of PPE in hospitals & workplaces, & losing their jobs; don't tell me they will use fake patients to fill 2K beds on hospital ships to make room for infected people in other hospitals & r building field hospitals in parks/convention centers/stadiums to stay empty; if there's seeming inactivity at hospitals now it may not mean they'll stay inactive.
    Stop posting non sense!
    avatar
    Vann7


    Posts : 5385
    Points : 5485
    Join date : 2012-05-16

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  Vann7 Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:56 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:The borders with Mexico & Canada r closed; people protest the lack of PPE in hospitals & workplaces, & losing their jobs; don't tell me they will use fake patients to fill 2K beds on hospital ships to make room for infected people in other hospitals & r building field hospitals in parks/convention centers/stadiums to stay empty; if there's seeming inactivity at hospitals now it may not mean they'll stay inactive.
    Stop posting non sense!

    the borders were not closed just a week earlier.. mexico was not even in any quanrantine at all ,and yes they can fill any place with any sick people of anything normal cold flu and claim it was covid-19.in the media.. how you know it was covid19?  how you know they are not lying?  like i told you new york city is not isolated..or closed ,people allowed to freely move from the most infested city in the world to all other 50 states.. if  this alone dont hint you is a fraud, then no idea what will do.  in short you can believe anything you want.. i don't care.
    but this is a fraud plain and simple..  they need to fake it.. or else will have to explain the world ,why they are dying so much and they not. .found information that in new york city a normal day.. die 400 people. before the
    covid incident. so there are sick people all the time dying ,anyone of them could be claimed to be a covid kill.
    before thevirus.. so they can fill any hospital now ,after they were exposed and claim that a normal flu is covid19..and you will have no way to know if their claims are true and not ,no way to know the counting number.. unless they allow an investigation and international doctors to investigate.. but they are not allowing
    that.. not even cameras can't enter.. why so much secrecy ? this is totally different to how russia,china and italy are covering their crisis.. USr secrecy is another signature of their fraud.. but so is ,their calm and empty hospitals..and empty tents. but if you want to hold in fakes ..then so be it.. i have done already enough research to confirm is a fraud.. probably to hide their participation in a bio attack..  how they did it and who also are complicit in this crime ,don't know yet.  what i do know is that US have been caught lying about their collapsing hospitals ,have top secrecy about filming in hospitals.. don't contain the capital of virus and allow people to freely move to any other city. Shocked  and also is a fact.. that china and russia are hinting US military is behind the virus..

    if americans military are so innocent .why they deploy military biological labs so close to russia and china and iran borders? they have dozens of them.. you really think the pentagon or cia will never dare to attack china or russia with a bio weapon? or will not have motives to do that>?   Rolling Eyes they are aiding and arming alqaeda and isis in syria.. if they capable of doing that.. to attempt a genocide on syria and kill millions on yemen too with their support on saudi arabia.. then attacking china with a bioweapon is perfectly capable for them to do it..
    ,they do have the ethics or lack of .. to do that.. otherwise they will not build so many military bio labs,,and less
    use them to provoke russia ,iran and china on their borders.


    why is the pentagon builds so many biolabs around russia ,iran and china?
    if they work so much with viruses and deploy the labs close to adversaries is because they are seeking
    to provoke them with their virus lab.. what is different now ,it seems ,they switched from provocations to action.
    is not that they lack of the willingness to do it... it will make sense they tried to stop china with a terror attack after failing with sanctions and trade war.

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 1




    Last edited by Vann7 on Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:12 am; edited 1 time in total
    PapaDragon
    PapaDragon


    Posts : 13278
    Points : 13320
    Join date : 2015-04-26
    Location : Fort Evil, Serbia

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  PapaDragon Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:11 am


    Vann7 wrote:...american movies of pandemic shows exactly how is done...

    I love how I never have to read past first paragraph of your drivel to get fresh proof that you are a moron

    Thank you for being so accommodating

    avatar
    Vann7


    Posts : 5385
    Points : 5485
    Join date : 2012-05-16

    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  Vann7 Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:15 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:...american movies of pandemic shows exactly how is done...

    I love how I never have to read past first paragraph of your drivel to get fresh proof that you are a moron

    Thank you for being so accommodating


    you are looking at yourself in the mirror.. you are here the only moron...
    and will always will be.. you are the biggest waste of oxygen in this forum. lol1

    Sponsored content


    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

    Post  Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Thu May 02, 2024 10:22 pm